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Mister D
07-11-2011, 07:53 PM
Davis is one of my favorite historians. He's a classicist.

President Obama is the new, cool version of the fifth-century Athenian Cleon.


The noun dêmagôgos first appeared in Thucydides’ history, mostly in a neutral, only slight disparaging way (usually in reference to the obstreperous Cleon), in its literal sense of “leader of the people.”

But very soon — in later fifth- and fourth-century authors (e.g., Aristophanes, Xenophon, Aristotle, the Attic orators) — both the concrete and the abstract nouns (demagogue and demagogy/demagoguery) and the verb (to demagogue) became ever more pejorative, describing crass popular leaders who alternately flattered and incited the masses (ochlos). Their trick was to obtain and expand their own personal power by clever rhetoric directed against the better off, coupled with promises of more entitlements for the “poor” paid for by a demonized “them.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/271410/demagogic-style-victor-davis-hanson

Captain Obvious
07-12-2011, 09:21 PM
That's all greek to me.

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I understand the comparison though, but I think BO is more shallow than this. He's a flavor-of-the-day guy. He's going to lean toward populist opinion and avoid the tough issues, at least that's my opinion of the guy in the latter half of his presidency.

When he first came into office, yeah - he was all that until he realized he couldn't deliver.

freecell
07-12-2011, 09:40 PM
President Obama is the new, cool version of the fifth-century Athenian Cleon.

Yes he does remind me of him in ways.

MMC
07-12-2011, 09:41 PM
Yeah I agree with you Cap.....driven by the Media, and determining what those populist issues are.

Conley
07-13-2011, 09:19 AM
President Obama is the new, cool version of the fifth-century Athenian Cleon.

Yes he does remind me of him in ways.


Oh definitely. When Obama first burst on the scene running for the Democratic nomination, I told all my friends, just you wait -- that sumbitch is a regular modern version of that fifth-century dirtbag Cleon, from Athens. Just you wait and see.

;D

MMC
07-13-2011, 01:07 PM
President Obama is the new, cool version of the fifth-century Athenian Cleon.

Yes he does remind me of him in ways.


Oh definitely. When Obama first burst on the scene running for the Democratic nomination, I told all my friends, just you wait -- that sumbitch is a regular modern version of that fifth-century dirtbag Cleon, from Athens. Just you wait and see.

;D

http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1030646400067&id=331eff58e7f2916a6459e9fb982abec6&url=http%3a%2f%2f2.bp.blogspot.com%2f_NZ13YAdxXDI% 2fSjCGbjvt-hI%2fAAAAAAAAB6M%2feIX5tal2DzE%2fs400%2fobama%2b-%2bwashington%2bgangster%2bbw%2bborder.jpg

Yeah.....you tell me who else could jump into the mix and throw out that bitch-slap on Hillary, then not only bitch-slap her but then turn around and pimp-her ass out. Tell me Obama aint gangsta. Hell, not only does he pimp-her out. But them banishes the bitch to foreign lands. Talk about hard-core. He was like bitzitch, I just don't want you of my face. I want your ass out the country. Now STFU and get to work. <slap>

Plus not only is Obama happy. Bilbo must be ecstatic, now that he can Get His Walk On. >:D

Mister D
07-13-2011, 01:09 PM
:D :D :D :D

Conley
07-13-2011, 01:13 PM
President Obama is the new, cool version of the fifth-century Athenian Cleon.

Yes he does remind me of him in ways.


Oh definitely. When Obama first burst on the scene running for the Democratic nomination, I told all my friends, just you wait -- that sumbitch is a regular modern version of that fifth-century dirtbag Cleon, from Athens. Just you wait and see.

;D

http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1030646400067&id=331eff58e7f2916a6459e9fb982abec6&url=http%3a%2f%2f2.bp.blogspot.com%2f_NZ13YAdxXDI% 2fSjCGbjvt-hI%2fAAAAAAAAB6M%2feIX5tal2DzE%2fs400%2fobama%2b-%2bwashington%2bgangster%2bbw%2bborder.jpg

Yeah.....you tell me who else could jump into the mix and throw out that bitch-slap on Hillary, then not only bitch-slap her but then turn around and pimp-her ass out. Tell me Obama aint gangsta. Hell, not only does he pimp-her out. But them banishes the bitch to foreign lands. Talk about hard-core. He was like bitzitch, I just don't want you of my face. I want your ass out the country. Now STFU and get to work. <slap>

Plus not only is Obama happy. Bilbo must be ecstatic, now that he can Get His Walk On. >:D


COMEDY GOLD!!! IT'S GOLD JERRY, GOLD I TELL YA! :D

MMC
07-13-2011, 01:45 PM
President Obama is the new, cool version of the fifth-century Athenian Cleon.

Yes he does remind me of him in ways.


Oh definitely. When Obama first burst on the scene running for the Democratic nomination, I told all my friends, just you wait -- that sumbitch is a regular modern version of that fifth-century dirtbag Cleon, from Athens. Just you wait and see.

;D

http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1030646400067&id=331eff58e7f2916a6459e9fb982abec6&url=http%3a%2f%2f2.bp.blogspot.com%2f_NZ13YAdxXDI% 2fSjCGbjvt-hI%2fAAAAAAAAB6M%2feIX5tal2DzE%2fs400%2fobama%2b-%2bwashington%2bgangster%2bbw%2bborder.jpg

Yeah.....you tell me who else could jump into the mix and throw out that bitch-slap on Hillary, then not only bitch-slap her but then turn around and pimp-her ass out. Tell me Obama aint gangsta. Hell, not only does he pimp-her out. But them banishes the bitch to foreign lands. Talk about hard-core. He was like bitzitch, I just don't want you of my face. I want your ass out the country. Now STFU and get to work. <slap>

Plus not only is Obama happy. Bilbo must be ecstatic, now that he can Get His Walk On. >:D


COMEDY GOLD!!! IT'S GOLD JERRY, GOLD I TELL YA! :D


http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1041997107110&id=6e584aaa7354084a5006fac0ff085d02&url=http%3a%2f%2fimages.sodahead.com%2fpolls%2f001 619939%2f261721801_obama_toga_xlarge.jpeg
Yeah.....well he is really heading to the Top of the Class with Owning the Master Plantation.


http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1036461028670&id=6efd7cd1f9c1e8ae1989f51288b210b9&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.swamppolitics.com%2fnews%2fpo litics%2fblog%2f2009%2f03%2f05%2fObama%2520gray%25 20cropped-thumb-350x502.jpghttp://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1024150082787&id=706f5bccf313d36983f4f77b56108064&url=http%3a%2f%2fimages.sodahead.com%2fpolls%2f000 527131%2fpolls_czar_dancing_obama_full_1_5517_4794 78_answer_3_xlarge.jpeg

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=993809797393&id=1071c0033dc4bde50aebf8fdb4c83a68&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.moneyteachers.org%2fimages%2f paste207.jpg

See any Resemblence..... >:D

bladimz
07-15-2011, 02:39 PM
President Obama is the new, cool version of the fifth-century Athenian Cleon.

Yes he does remind me of him in ways.


Oh definitely. When Obama first burst on the scene running for the Democratic nomination, I told all my friends, just you wait -- that sumbitch is a regular modern version of that fifth-century dirtbag Cleon, from Athens. Just you wait and see.

;D


Oh, i hate that Cleon guy. There was a guy, Cleon Jones, who played for the Mets, and was caught in the back of a van with a white woman? Yeah. All them Cleons; they're bad juju.

Conley
07-15-2011, 02:40 PM
President Obama is the new, cool version of the fifth-century Athenian Cleon.

Yes he does remind me of him in ways.


Oh definitely. When Obama first burst on the scene running for the Democratic nomination, I told all my friends, just you wait -- that sumbitch is a regular modern version of that fifth-century dirtbag Cleon, from Athens. Just you wait and see.

;D


Oh, i hate that Cleon guy. There was a guy, Cleon Jones, who played for the Mets, and was caught in the back of a van with a white woman? Yeah. All them Cleons; they're bad juju.


BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD !!!

bladimz
07-15-2011, 02:46 PM
President Obama is the new, cool version of the fifth-century Athenian Cleon.

Yes he does remind me of him in ways.


Oh definitely. When Obama first burst on the scene running for the Democratic nomination, I told all my friends, just you wait -- that sumbitch is a regular modern version of that fifth-century dirtbag Cleon, from Athens. Just you wait and see.

;D


Oh, i hate that Cleon guy. There was a guy, Cleon Jones, who played for the Mets, and was caught in the back of a van with a white woman? Yeah. All them Cleons; they're bad juju.


BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD !!!


Just stopped by to see what condition Politirant's condition was in. Good to see you again!

Conley
07-15-2011, 02:48 PM
President Obama is the new, cool version of the fifth-century Athenian Cleon.

Yes he does remind me of him in ways.


Oh definitely. When Obama first burst on the scene running for the Democratic nomination, I told all my friends, just you wait -- that sumbitch is a regular modern version of that fifth-century dirtbag Cleon, from Athens. Just you wait and see.

;D


Oh, i hate that Cleon guy. There was a guy, Cleon Jones, who played for the Mets, and was caught in the back of a van with a white woman? Yeah. All them Cleons; they're bad juju.


Yeah, I agree. I once knew a Cleon who gave out those really cheap candies -- the Mary Janes -- for Halloween.



Cleons... >:( >:( >:(

Conley
07-15-2011, 02:49 PM
President Obama is the new, cool version of the fifth-century Athenian Cleon.

Yes he does remind me of him in ways.


Oh definitely. When Obama first burst on the scene running for the Democratic nomination, I told all my friends, just you wait -- that sumbitch is a regular modern version of that fifth-century dirtbag Cleon, from Athens. Just you wait and see.

;D


Oh, i hate that Cleon guy. There was a guy, Cleon Jones, who played for the Mets, and was caught in the back of a van with a white woman? Yeah. All them Cleons; they're bad juju.


BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD !!!


Just stopped by to see what condition Politirant's condition was in. Good to see you again!


Good to see you too!

Life support and on the donor list -- but we aren't giving up the fight! :-)

I kid but actually I think this place has turned a corner, and in a good way...

Looks like your site is doing well, good on ya!

Mister D
07-15-2011, 03:53 PM
President Obama is the new, cool version of the fifth-century Athenian Cleon.

Yes he does remind me of him in ways.


Oh definitely. When Obama first burst on the scene running for the Democratic nomination, I told all my friends, just you wait -- that sumbitch is a regular modern version of that fifth-century dirtbag Cleon, from Athens. Just you wait and see.

;D


Oh, i hate that Cleon guy. There was a guy, Cleon Jones, who played for the Mets, and was caught in the back of a van with a white woman? Yeah. All them Cleons; they're bad juju.


Are you asking me a question, Blad? I don't know if he was caught in a van with a white woman. I know he wasn't caught by me. >:( ;D

MMC
07-15-2011, 04:58 PM
President Obama is the new, cool version of the fifth-century Athenian Cleon.

Yes he does remind me of him in ways.


Oh definitely. When Obama first burst on the scene running for the Democratic nomination, I told all my friends, just you wait -- that sumbitch is a regular modern version of that fifth-century dirtbag Cleon, from Athens. Just you wait and see.

;D


Oh, i hate that Cleon guy. There was a guy, Cleon Jones, who played for the Mets, and was caught in the back of a van with a white woman? Yeah. All them Cleons; they're bad juju.


Yeah, I agree. I once knew a Cleon who gave out those really cheap candies -- the Mary Janes -- for Halloween.



Cleons... >:( >:( >:(


Mary Jane- Rick James With LYRICS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zanzW-avv8M#)

Uhm.....thats not the Mary Jane Candy I am use to.....plus mine is a Natural Sweetener. >:D

MMC
07-15-2011, 05:09 PM
WC - You Know Me Video ft. Young Maylay & Ice Cube (7RUSSE7s Fan-Made Video Productions) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r01l7o-e00g#)

Hehe.....You Know Me! >:D