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RedStone7476
11-03-2022, 11:56 AM
At this point in time, reproductive freedom, democracy, Social Security, Medicare, Covid, and the environment are issues that seem to favor the Democrats over the Republicans. That is, it seems that the majority of voters think that the Democrats would do a better job at handling these issues than the Republicans.

Unfortunately for our nation, the Republicans in our government (AKA, the Radical Right Republicans (the RRRs); AKA, the MAGA-Fascist Republicans (the MAGA-Fascists)) are better at selling lies, than the Democrats are at selling the truth.

• As for the issues that seem to favor the Democrats over the Republicans:

> Reproductive freedom - Unlike the Democrats: The RRRs oppose reproductive freedom. And if they take over the Congress, they will ban abortion nationwide. And they will appoint vigilantes who will use terror to enforce that ban. After that, they will ban most birth control methods nationwide. And they will appoint vigilantes who will use terror to enforce that ban.

> Democracy - Unlike the Democrats: The MAGA-Fascist Republicans oppose democracy. And if they take over the Congress, they will destroy our democracy. That is, they will oppose laws designed to protect our democracy; and they will support laws that impede or suppress the votes of people that they don’t like; and they will support laws that will allow them (the MAGA-Fascists) to reject election results that they don’t like.

> Social Security and Medicare - Unlike the Democrats: The RRRs oppose Social Security and Medicare. And if they take over the Congress, they will eliminate Social Security and Medicare; and that could hurt middleclass, and low income, seniors. After that, they will eliminate Medicaid, and food subsidy programs, for low income workers. And after that, they will eliminate the ObamaCare; and that could hurt millions of Americans.

> Covid - Unlike the Democrats: The RRRs are anti-science and pro-Covid. And if they take over the Congress, they will undermine the CDC and other institutions that protect us from diseases (i.e., they will undermine institutions that keep America safe.) Furthermore, they will investigate Fauci in order to punish him for his MANY years of fighting to keep America safe.

> The environment - Unlike the Democrats: The RRRs are anti-science and anti-environment. And if they take over the Congress, they will undermine the EPA and other institutions that strive to protect our environment and our planet. Furthermore, they will censure our scientists.

• Here are some issues that seem to favor the Republicans over the Democrats. But should these issues favor Republicans?

> Immigration - Our nation is definitely facing an immigration MESS. Consider this:
* During Obama’s presidency, Obama and the Democrats tried to do comprehensive immigration reform, in an effort to resolve our immigration mess. What did the RRRs do in order to assist Obama and the Democrats in that effort? The answer: absolutely nothing. Bottom line:
- #1: IF the Radical Right Republicans would have worked with Obama and the Democrats, perhaps we would NOT be facing an immigration mess at this point in time.
- #2: Because of the Radical Right Republicans refused to work with the Obama and the Democrats to resolve this mess, our immigration mess was permitted to persist, and to get worse.
* Although Biden understands the complexities of our immigration mess infinitely more than Trump, his attempt to resolve that mess has NOT been a cakewalk, because of those complexities. Furthermore, the RRRs don’t seem to want to work with Biden and the Democrats in order to resolve that mess.

> Crime - Crime is definitely a MAJOR problem in our nation, and it has been for a number of years. The RRRs like to say that the Democrats are pro-crime. Consider this:
* Biden and the Democrats passed the American Rescue Plan. That plan provided $350 billion that local governments can use for their police departments. Most of the RRRs voted against the plan.
* Much of the crime in our country involves gun violence. Biden and the Democrats want to combat gun violence. However, the RRRs have repeatedly refused to do anything to combat gun violence.
* Trump and the RRRs are inciting violence against election workers and election officials.
* Trump and the RRRs are inciting voter intimidation at polling sites and drop boxes.
* In response to the Covid crisis, Trump incited violence against Asian Americans, healthcare workers, and the governor of Michigan.
* In response to his loss of the election to Biden, Trump tried to steal the election. That is:
- He colluded with RRRs to replace actual electors with fake electors that favored him.
- He attempted to coerce election officials to alter the actual vote counts so that they would be in his favor him.
- On Jan6, Trump tried to steal the election by terror and force.
* When he left office, Trump stole documents from our government. And then, he refused to return the stolen documents, after the government repeatedly asked him to do so for well over a year. It’s possible that these stolen documents included documents that contained classified information that could put our national security at risk, and that could get our intelligence people killed, if that information was seen by the wrong people.

> The economy - Note:
* When Biden took office, he inherited an economic mess from Trump (i.e., the worse economic mess since the Great Depression). And on top of that, Biden inherited a Covid mess from Trump (e.g., Covid was running rampant, and there were shortages of Covid testing supplies and shortages of medical equipment). Both of these messes were the result of Trump’s gross mismanagement of our Covid crisis; mismanagement that was fully supported by the RRRs.
* When Biden took over:
- He, with help from the Democrats, immediately took steps to clean-up Trump’s Covid mess (e.g., he got shots into our arms; unlike Trump who told us that we were on our own). And Biden eventually got Trump’s Covid mess under control.
- And then he, with help from the Democrats, immediately took steps to clean-up Trump’s economic mess (e.g., he signed the American Rescue Plan, Covid relief laws, the CHIPS Act, and the Infrastructure Law). And Biden eventually got Trump’s economic mess under control.

* One goal of the Infrastructure Law: To add an average of 1.5 million jobs per year for the next ten years.
* One goal of the CHIPS Act: To add an average of 200,000 jobs per year.

> Inflation - Note:
* Inflation is a world-wide problem, and it is affecting MANY nations.
* Some major causes of the inflation:
- World-wide supply chain issues, which are caused by the Covid pandemic.
- Putin’s war on Ukraine.
- OPEC+ plans to cut back its oil production.
- Corporate profiteering.
* In an effort to combat our inflation problem:
- Biden released oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.
- The oil companies are now posting record profits. Biden has called on the oil companies to use a portion of their profits to lower gas and oil prices for consumers.
- Biden and the Democrats passed the Inflation Reduction Act, which includes the following: lower energy costs; lower drug prices; and lower ACA health care premiums.
* If we were less dependent on oil for our energy needs, and more dependent on clean energy, perhaps we would not be facing these highly and artificially inflated energy costs. However, because the RRRs are owned by the oil companies, they oppose clean energy.

• In conclusion: The Democrats really need to improve their messaging strategy in order to combat the Radical Right Republican’s success at selling lies. And they should have been doing that many months ago.

Thanks to Trump and the MAGA-Fascist Republicans, we are in the process of losing our democracy. And if the MAGA-Fascist Republicans take over Congress, we can kiss our democracy goodbye.

This is consistent with the book entitled “Everything Trump Touches Dies” which was written by a Republican strategist.

Collateral Damage
11-03-2022, 11:59 AM
**yawn**

Let me know when you can actually discuss a subject, rather than self-publish a bunch opinions that drip with bias.

carolina73
11-03-2022, 12:08 PM
Favoring Democrats

1) Able to kill babies on a whim.

2) Can commit crimes and be back on the street in 2 hours

3) Serve far less time for the most serious crimes

4) Use the FBI to spy on the oother party and if they win then make up crimes to impeach them.

5) Pay losers that choose to be losers with other people's hard earned money.

6) Letting your citizens freeze over a computer model and thousands of criminals seeking government grant money.

7) Teach kids to be gay and then maul their bodies.


Should I go on?

Peter1469
11-03-2022, 12:12 PM
Favoring Democrats

1) Able to kill babies on a whim.

2) Can commit crimes and be back on the street in 2 hours

3) Serve far less time for the most serious crimes

4) Use the FBI to spy on the oother party and if they win then make up crimes to impeach them.

5) Pay losers that choose to be losers with other people's hard earned money.

6) Letting your citizens freeze over a computer model and thousands of criminals seeking government grant money.

7) Teach kids to be gay and then maul their bodies.


Should I go on?
Yes.

stjames1_53
11-03-2022, 12:40 PM
RedStone7476 ................................pure moronic shit picked straight from your septic tank
Hate will kill you

RMNIXON
11-03-2022, 01:48 PM
Since you copy and paste SPAM thread included immigration perhaps Democrats will run on the "migrant" rights of the Paul Pelosi attacker?


:flames:

LescoBrandon
11-03-2022, 01:51 PM
So, to sum it up...

Democrats want the right to live like children in adulthood and take money from workers to fund it. Got it. Any inconveniences, like children or jobs, have to be eliminated.

LescoBrandon
11-03-2022, 01:53 PM
"MAGA-Fascists"

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

stjames1_53
11-03-2022, 03:51 PM
A fascist is anyone who has the word "no" in their vocabulary

jigglepete
11-03-2022, 03:54 PM
**yawn**

Let me know when you can actually discuss a subject, rather than self-publish a bunch opinions that drip with bias.

Me thinks someone needs to be steered towards the "blog" section of the site...

slideman
04-07-2023, 03:30 PM
the demographics show that in the long term the Democrats are going to consistently win. If you look at the 11 to 29-year-olds in the 29 to 45-year-olds they both are quite liberal. The strength of the Republicans it is in the demographic over 45 who are all going to die soon.
Younger folks are quite concerned about the climate, women's control of their own bodies, gun violence, and the mistreatment of LGBTQ+ people.
Republicans think the mistreatment of gay people is trans people was going to be their bread and butter issue but it turns the stomachs of a majority of people to see these folks abused.

Live and learn

zelmo1234
04-07-2023, 03:37 PM
The problem with that is it has always been that way.

The old saying If you are 20 years old and not a liberal you don't have a heart, if you are 45 years old and are not conservative you don't have a brain. holds true!

I think that the left has done a lot to convince the younger generation that they don't have to work to be successful but that window is closing very quickly.

As the dollar continues to lose value, the buying power is going to continue to decline. If China and Russia pull off a currency that the world will accept as a viable trading currency, the Great Depression is going to look like a paycheck that was 3 days late.

the Problem that liberalism is facing is they are very very close to running out of other people's money

slideman
04-11-2023, 12:23 PM
The problem with that is it has always been that way.

The old saying If you are 20 years old and not a liberal you don't have a heart, if you are 45 years old and are not conservative you don't have a brain. holds true!

I think that the left has done a lot to convince the younger generation that they don't have to work to be successful but that window is closing very quickly.

As the dollar continues to lose value, the buying power is going to continue to decline. If China and Russia pull off a currency that the world will accept as a viable trading currency, the Great Depression is going to look like a paycheck that was 3 days late.

the Problem that liberalism is facing is they are very very close to running out of other people's money

To the contrary we have not begun to tap the resources that are available as the taxes on the wealthy are lower than the taxes on their secretaries.
Warren Buffett says so.
1% of the people own 40% of the wealth in this country. They are not adequately taxed.

slideman
04-11-2023, 12:24 PM
Just keep worrying about the border and gun control and how the trans folks are seducing your kids the way the Republican oligarchs want you to.

Standing Wolf
04-11-2023, 01:36 PM
Just keep worrying about the border and gun control and how the trans folks are seducing your kids the way the Republican oligarchs want you to.

I don't imagine that it will ever happen, but I actually have these waking dreams where a Presidential candidate will appear who refuses to be beholden to any of the special interest groups on either side of the aisle, left or right. Someone whose agenda would embody the most reasonable, real world solutions to all of our problems, and whose message to every Party and group would be, "You can't always have your way. Grow up and deal with it".

He would stop the flood of both illegal immigrants and dangerous drugs into the country by whatever means necessary and despite whatever personal feelings might be injured in the process. At the same time he would lend whatever support was legally possible to efforts to maintain the accessibility of abortions to the citizens of every state.

He would call out the racist content and message of many of the CRT-based classes and programs, eliminating them immediately from all military commands and government agencies. At the same time he would lend support and encouragement to those seeking to add lawful sexual orientation and gender identification to the list of classes of individuals who cannot be denied employment due to their status in those areas.

He would publicly admonish gun control advocates who take aim at legal firearms owners, attempting to limit their ability to defend their persons, homes and places of business, to focus instead on the black market dealers who supply the criminals with their guns, and he would support efforts to tremendously increase the maximum penalties for the illegal sale, purchase, possession or use of a firearm. At the same time worker safety rules and protections affecting underground mine inspections, offshore rigs, and line speeds in meat processing plants, among others, would be restored (or even re-enforced) to pre-2018 levels.

He could be either a Democrat or a Republican, or neither - I don't really care. It doesn't matter anyway, because there are enough single-issue voters on both sides to ensure that he (or she) would not get very far in the process. However strong a candidate's support for the Second Amendment, his support for the continued (or even expanded) availability of abortion would cause many to either vote for the other guy or stay home. However many might identify with and support his stance on changes to Title VII, an equal or greater number would be alienated by his views on CRT-based teaching.

Getting yourself elected to almost any public office in America entails walking that fine line between encouraging your "fan base" and telling them what they want to hear, while not frightening the moderates and the fence-sitters into voting against you on principle, or staying home in protest. That is, of course, why my ideal candidate will remain a fantasy.

zelmo1234
04-11-2023, 01:45 PM
To the contrary we have not begun to tap the resources that are available as the taxes on the wealthy are lower than the taxes on their secretaries.
Warren Buffett says so.
1% of the people own 40% of the wealth in this country. They are not adequately taxed.

You guys are so Funny, do you know why Buffets taxes are a lower percentage than his secretary?

Warren Buffett's secretary, Debbie Bosanek. Forbes contributor Paul Roderick Gregory got some attention with his post Wednesday afternoon headlined "Warren Buffett's Secretary Likely Makes Between $200,000 and $500,000/Year."

So before Deductions she is a top 1% and that is 37% before deductions, so it is very likely that she pays over 25% As a 1%er

How does Warren Buffet Get paid? In Salary

Warren Buffett is an investing icon, the boss of Berkshire Hathaway, and one of the richest people on the planet. Yet he earns a modest annual salary of $100,000 — and hasn't seen a pay rise in over 40 years, Securities and Exchange Commission filings show.


Well of course his rate is lower, he makes less Money.....

But he also has Billions in Capital Gains Tax and that is where he makes his money

The long-term capital gains tax rates for the 2022 and 2023 tax years are 0%, 15%, or 20% of the profit, depending on the income of the filer. The income brackets are adjusted annually.

Now if they raise taxes on the rich, his secretary's taxes are going to go uo not his.

And you will NEVER hear him talking about raising taxes on Capital Gains.

You fell for this, Warren Buffet is advocating that his secretaries taxes go up, not his.

MisterVeritis
04-11-2023, 01:48 PM
To the contrary we have not begun to tap the resources that are available as the taxes on the wealthy are lower than the taxes on their secretaries.
Warren Buffett says so.
1% of the people own 40% of the wealth in this country. They are not adequately taxed.

Buffett is a liar and you are a liar.

zelmo1234
04-11-2023, 01:54 PM
To the contrary we have not begun to tap the resources that are available as the taxes on the wealthy are lower than the taxes on their secretaries.
Warren Buffett says so.
1% of the people own 40% of the wealth in this country. They are not adequately taxed.
I hope that you really look at the post on Warren Buffet. and see that he was not advocating raising his taxes by one penny. but he was advocating raising the taxes on his secretary.

Next if you are going to Raise taxes on the Wealthy you are going to have to raise them on Capital Gains. Now you are taxing everyone's Retirement accounts. And what will that do for a business.

Force them off shore. By moving profits to a Tax Friendly nation you can continue to do business here and move your tax burden. But that is not really needed lets take a look at who is not paying their fair share of income tax.


Table 1. Summary of Federal Income Tax Data, Tax Year 2020

Top 1%
Top 5%
Top 10%
Top 25%
Top 50%
Bottom 50%
All Taxpayers


Number of Returns
1,574,942
7,874,712
15,749,424
39,373,561
78,747,121
78,747,121
157,494,242


Average Tax Rate
26.0%
22.4%
20.3%
17.1%
14.8%
3.1%
13.6%


Average Income Taxes Paid
$458,894
$136,091
$79,897
$38,396
$21,187
$504
$10,845


Adjusted Gross Income ($ millions)
$2,780,754
$4,775,995
$6,198,022
$8,862,578
$11,257,092
$1,276,009
$12,533,102


Share of Total Adjusted Gross Income
22.2%
38.1%
49.5%
70.7%
89.8%
10.2%
100.0%


Income Taxes Paid ($ millions)
$722,732
$1,071,681
$1,258,335
$1,511,786
$1,668,410
$39,671
$1,708,081


Share of Total Income Taxes Paid
42.3%
62.7%
73.7%
88.5%
97.7%
2.3%
100.0%


Income Split Point
$548,336
$220,521
$152,321
$85,853
$42,184
$42,184



So if you look at this the people that make 22% of the income pay 42.3% of the taxes

Tell me now who is not paying their fair share.

zelmo1234
04-11-2023, 01:56 PM
Buffett is a liar and you are a liar.
No Buffet is not a liar, but he is also advocating raising taxes on his secretary and not himself.

Adn the Left because they don't have a Clue of how business and the economy work fell for it hood line and sinker.

zelmo1234
04-11-2023, 01:58 PM
I don't imagine that it will ever happen, but I actually have these waking dreams where a Presidential candidate will appear who refuses to be beholden to any of the special interest groups on either side of the aisle, left or right. Someone whose agenda would embody the most reasonable, real world solutions to all of our problems, and whose message to every Party and group would be, "You can't always have your way. Grow up and deal with it".

He would stop the flood of both illegal immigrants and dangerous drugs into the country by whatever means necessary and despite whatever personal feelings might be injured in the process. At the same time he would lend whatever support was legally possible to efforts to maintain the accessibility of abortions to the citizens of every state.

He would call out the racist content and message of many of the CRT-based classes and programs, eliminating them immediately from all military commands and government agencies. At the same time he would lend support and encouragement to those seeking to add lawful sexual orientation and gender identification to the list of classes of individuals who cannot be denied employment due to their status in those areas.

He would publicly admonish gun control advocates who take aim at legal firearms owners, attempting to limit their ability to defend their persons, homes and places of business, to focus instead on the black market dealers who supply the criminals with their guns, and he would support efforts to tremendously increase the maximum penalties for the illegal sale, purchase, possession or use of a firearm. At the same time worker safety rules and protections affecting underground mine inspections, offshore rigs, and line speeds in meat processing plants, among others, would be restored (or even re-enforced) to pre-2018 levels.

He could be either a Democrat or a Republican, or neither - I don't really care. It doesn't matter anyway, because there are enough single-issue voters on both sides to ensure that he (or she) would not get very far in the process. However strong a candidate's support for the Second Amendment, his support for the continued (or even expanded) availability of abortion would cause many to either vote for the other guy or stay home. However many might identify with and support his stance on changes to Title VII, an equal or greater number would be alienated by his views on CRT-based teaching.

Getting yourself elected to almost any public office in America entails walking that fine line between encouraging your "fan base" and telling them what they want to hear, while not frightening the moderates and the fence-sitters into voting against you on principle, or staying home in protest. That is, of course, why my ideal candidate will remain a fantasy.
I would vote for this person despite my opposition on Abortion he would check enough boxes for me to support,

carolina73
04-11-2023, 02:09 PM
Buffett is a liar and you are a liar.

The statements are deceptive but not lying.


In a 2007 interview, Buffett explained that he took a survey of his employees and compared their tax rates to his. All told, he found that while he paid a total tax rate of 17.7%, the average tax rate for people in his office was 32.9%.

Now to be clear, Buffett's employees are not paying a higher tax bill; rather, they're paying a higher tax rate relative to their own income. But still, that calls out a major injustice with the tax system, and one that Buffett has been very vocal about.

So why is it that Buffett himself doesn't pay more tax? It's because the bulk of his income comes from dividends and long-term capital gains, which are taxed at a much lower rate than ordinary income.

As the CEO of Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A 1.29%) (BRK.B 0.94%), Buffett pays himself a modest $100,000 salary. A single person earning $100,000 in 2020 is subject to a marginal tax rate of 24%, while a married person filing a joint return earning $100,000 is subject to a marginal tax rate of 22%.



More details

https://www.fool.com/taxes/2020/09/25/why-does-billionaire-warren-buffett-pay-a-lower-ta/

carolina73
04-11-2023, 02:16 PM
To the contrary we have not begun to tap the resources that are available as the taxes on the wealthy are lower than the taxes on their secretaries.
Warren Buffett says so.
1% of the people own 40% of the wealth in this country. They are not adequately taxed.

Those that advocate the higher rates will never argue what the rates should be.
They should just be higher.

Sorry but even when rates were higher the rate people paid was not. The reason it was higher was because write offs were so much higher. So even in the days of the extreme 90% rate the effective rate was only 32%. What has happened was tax rates were reduced as write-offs were eliminated aka tax simplification.
If you want it fair for all then go fro the fair tax with absolutely no write offs. I know that you think fair means that you should get off free.

Tahuyaman
04-11-2023, 02:19 PM
To the contrary we have not begun to tap the resources that are available as the taxes on the wealthy are lower than the taxes on their secretaries.
Warren Buffett says so.
1% of the people own 40% of the wealth in this country. They are not adequately taxed.

Warren Buffett’s secretary pays more in income tax than he does, because he pays himself a very small token salary just like all billionaire business owners.

MisterVeritis
04-11-2023, 02:21 PM
No Buffet is not a liar, but he is also advocating raising taxes on his secretary and not himself.

Adn the Left because they don't have a Clue of how business and the economy work fell for it hood line and sinker.
Of course Buffett is a liar. He intended to deceive people and succeeded.

DGUtley
04-11-2023, 02:21 PM
I would vote for this person despite my opposition on Abortion he would check enough boxes for me to support,

As would I.

MisterVeritis
04-11-2023, 02:22 PM
The statements are deceptive but not lying.



More details

https://www.fool.com/taxes/2020/09/25/why-does-billionaire-warren-buffett-pay-a-lower-ta/
Of course they are lies. Everyone uses the same tax tables for their sources of income. Buffett knows that.

zelmo1234
04-11-2023, 02:40 PM
i suspect that my friends on the left will not be back as they don't like it when one of their own plays a trick on them. And they don't like the fact that the bottom 50% only pay 2.5% of federal income taxed

But That is the way that it works. If you remember the debate with Trump he told people that the system was rigged and it was in his favor, that him not paying taxes was smart and that Hillary and the Democrats were not going to change it because their donors like Warren Buffet took advantage of the same system that he takes advantage of.

slideman
04-12-2023, 01:31 PM
i suspect that my friends on the left will not be back as they don't like it when one of their own plays a trick on them. And they don't like the fact that the bottom 50% only pay 2.5% of federal income taxed

But That is the way that it works. If you remember the debate with Trump he told people that the system was rigged and it was in his favor, that him not paying taxes was smart and that Hillary and the Democrats were not going to change it because their donors like Warren Buffet took advantage of the same system that he takes advantage of.

You were getting closer to the truth which is that the moneyed class has undue influence on our politics -both parties. We had to threaten my own senator Patty Murray with a primary opponent as she was taking too much money from Big pharma and voted against the drug reimportation bill which A large majority of her constituents support.
The Democrats at least try to make some show of representing the interests of their constituents. Many of them are in bed with big donors. The Republicans on the other hand are completely enthralled to the Republican oligarchs. They are cynical. You people are all fools.

Carl Young
04-12-2023, 05:05 PM
the demographics show that in the long term the Democrats are going to consistently win. If you look at the 11 to 29-year-olds in the 29 to 45-year-olds they both are quite liberal. The strength of the Republicans it is in the demographic over 45 who are all going to die soon.
Younger folks are quite concerned about the climate, women's control of their own bodies, gun violence, and the mistreatment of LGBTQ+ people.
Republicans think the mistreatment of gay people is trans people was going to be their bread and butter issue but it turns the stomachs of a majority of people to see these folks abused.

Live and learnLeftists could possibly win honestly at future elections if they weren't aborting their babies.

Carl Young
04-12-2023, 05:12 PM
You were getting closer to the truth which is that the moneyed class has undue influence on our politics -both parties. We had to threaten my own senator Patty Murray with a primary opponent as she was taking too much money from Big pharma and voted against the drug reimportation bill which A large majority of her constituents support.
The Democrats at least try to make some show of representing the interests of their constituents. Many of them are in bed with big donors. The Republicans on the other hand are completely enthralled to the Republican oligarchs. They are cynical. You people are all fools.The Dems aren't doing that great in Patty Murray's state. Seattle is the home of Antifa, riots, crime, slums and a high cost of living. This is comparable to most, or all, Democratic run cities.

Expecting another "Summer of Love" this year?
https://www.geekwire.com/2022/67-of-seattle-residents-have-considered-moving-out-of-the-city-new-survey-finds/

Omar
04-12-2023, 06:23 PM
• In conclusion: The Democrats really need to improve their messaging strategy in order to combat the Radical Right Republican’s success at selling lies.
That's interesting, since the main thing I was thinking as I read your list was how skillful the Democrats were at selling their lies and distortions. Or, to put it more politely, the Dems are better at selling their narrative.

By the way, you don't have to fear Republicans destroying Democracy. Despite Trump's boneheaded reaction to losing the 2020 election, conservatives fully support (and demand) democracy.

slideman
04-26-2023, 08:55 AM
That's interesting, since the main thing I was thinking as I read your list was how skillful the Democrats were at selling their lies and distortions. Or, to put it more politely, the Dems are better at selling their narrative.

By the way, you don't have to fear Republicans destroying Democracy. Despite Trump's boneheaded reaction to losing the 2020 election, conservatives fully support (and demand) democracy.

The fundamental difference between Democrats and Republicans is the Republicans exist for low taxes on the rich and Democrats exist to represent their constituents.
Trump attended to end the peaceful succession of the presidency. That is an assault on democracy.

zelmo1234
04-26-2023, 09:00 AM
The fundamental difference between Democrats and Republicans is the Republicans exist for low taxes on the rich and Democrats exist to represent their constituents.
Trump attended to end the peaceful succession of the presidency. That is an assault on democracy.

Well I guess after a while you get acustom to being wrong

But maybe you can a swer this

If the GOP are for low taxes why do the top 10% pay 75% of federal incomtax

Peter1469
04-26-2023, 09:10 AM
The fundamental difference between Democrats and Republicans is the Republicans exist for low taxes on the rich and Democrats exist to represent their constituents.
Trump attended to end the peaceful succession of the presidency. That is an assault on democracy.
Completely wrong.