Bomb Kills Iranian Nuclear Expert.....

[MMC]

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Two assailants on a motorcycle attached a magnetic bomb to the car of an Iranian university professor working at a key nuclear facility, killing him and another person Wednesday, state TV reported. The slayings suggest a widening covert effort to set back Iran's atomic program.
The attack in Tehran bore a strong resemblance to earlier killings of scientists working on the Iranian nuclear program. It is certain to amplify authorities' claims of clandestine operations by Western powers and their allies to halt Iran's nuclear advances.

The blast killed Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan, a chemistry expert and a director of the Natanz uranium enrichment facility in central Iran, state TV reported. State news agency IRNA said Roshan had "organizational links" to Iran's nuclear agency, which suggests a direct role in key aspects of the program.

Tehran has accused Israel's Mossad, the CIA and Britain's spy agency of engaging in an underground "terrorism" campaign against nuclear-related targets, including at least three slayings since early 2010 and the release of a malicious computer virus known at Stuxnet in 2010 that temporarily disrupted controls of some centrifuges — a key component in nuclear fuel production. All three countries have denied the Iranian accusations.

Defiant Iranian authorities pointed the finger at archfoe Israel.....snip~

http://news.yahoo.com/bomb-kills-iranian-nuclear-expert-122304552.html

I see Israel has been taking their shots. Who else is would be able to move around freely inside Iran and get close to a Nuke Scientist? This will ratchet things up some more. Israel has already said. 2012 will be a year to remember for Iran. Also I think that one Brit analyst has it right. That if the rheotoric doesn't scale back. This is going to lead to confrontation.

On another note.....Shell Oil is finally closing operations down in Iran all due to the sanctions that were just imposed by Obama. Uhm one qestion tho.....WHY IS SHELL OIL DOING BUISNESS WITH IRAN, STILL!!!!! :angry:

[Conley]

Wow, huge news!

So it looks like Israel is taking matters into its own hands, interesting. I guess they could be getting CIA help too but I'm not sure they would need it.

Shell is doing business with Iran because they're multinational and can get away with it.

[jgreer]

So now the US assassinates scientists....sad

[MMC]

So now the US assassinates scientists....sad

"Defiant Iranian authorities pointed the finger at archfoe Israel.....snip~" :evil5: :thinking: :rolleyes20:

[Peter1469]

So now the US assassinates scientists....sad

What is sad about that? I would rather see a bunch of nuclear scientists trying to make nuclear weapons for Iran be killed than for a massive air war or ground invasion against Iran which would killed a heck of a lot more people.

[jgreer]

"Defiant Iranian authorities pointed the finger at archfoe Israel.....snip~" :evil5: :thinking: :rolleyes20:

With American help

[jgreer]

What is sad about that? I would rather see a bunch of nuclear scientists trying to make nuclear weapons for Iran be killed than for a massive air war or ground invasion against Iran which would killed a heck of a lot more people.

Or if we werent always sticking our nose in the Middle East no one would have to kill anyone!

[Peter1469]

I wouldn't advocate a conventional war against Iran, but I would certainly advocate a shadow war against them. It is a dangerous world out there. The guy should have been more careful. And Iran should stop seeking nuclear weapons.

[jgreer]

But dont you see how hypocritical that is and dont you see how it is inevitable that they will get nukes

It is time for Plan B because A isnt working

[Alias]

This Iranian regime is not going to get a nuke. That is not going to happen. They're religious nuts and everyone knows it. When martyrdom is one of your religious tenets, you cannot have a sound mind and appease them at the same time.

[jgreer]

This Iranian regime is not going to get a nuke. That is not going to happen. They're religious nuts and everyone knows it. When martyrdom is one of your religious tenets, you cannot have a sound mind and appease them at the same time.

Welcome to the web site Alias

So you are saying we dont have anything to worry about......some might want to be martyrs but they may want to take some people with them, suicide bombers on a much bigger scale you know what I mean?

[Alias]

Welcome to the web site Alias

So you are saying we dont have anything to worry about......some might want to be martyrs but they may want to take some people with them, suicide bombers on a much bigger scale you know what I mean?

Thanks for the welcome.

Iran uses suicide bombers. Have you ever seen an Iranian cartoon aimed at children?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du638_4NTSI

[jgreer]

No. I dont think Ive ever seen any Iranian cartoon at all really

Just thinking if they are ok with dying they are ok with carrying a nuke into a crowded area and BOOM

Cool I see you added a video thanks

[Alias]

No. I dont think Ive ever seen any Iranian cartoon at all really

Just thinking if they are ok with dying they are ok with carrying a nuke into a crowded area and BOOM

I just posted a link to youtube above. There are a couple more on the youtube page I think.

I don't think giving people like these a nuke is a good idea.

[jgreer]

That is scary!! No I had no idea

Too bad for that guy in the cartoon. He could have dropped the bomb from up there and blown up the truck without killing himself. Not too smart, hopefully the kids realize LOL

[Conley]

Welcome to the forum Alias...if that is really your name! :grin:

I agree a nuclear Iran is a very bad idea.

[Alias]

That is scary!! No I had no idea

Too bad for that guy in the cartoon. He could have dropped the bomb from up there and blown up the truck without killing himself. Not too smart, hopefully the kids realize LOL

No, the kids don't realize. They're just tools. Iran must never have a nuke.

[Alias]

Welcome to the forum Alias...if that is really your name! :grin:

I agree a nuclear Iran is a very bad idea.

Yes, Alias is my real name. My full name is "Alias Whatever You Please". My friends call me just "Alias" and I hope everyone here is my friend.....at least for a while.

[Conley]

:laugh: Cool, reminds me of the dog who thought his name was "Dammit" because that's all his owner called him.

Anyhow yeah, we're a friendly bunch here though we can get some heated conversations going.

[Alias]

:laugh: Cool, reminds me of the dog who thought his name was "Dammit" because that's all his owner called him.

Anyhow yeah, we're a friendly bunch here though we can get some heated conversations going.

I like debates as long as there is no personal insults. Too much of that on some sites.

[Alias]

I read this today and thought it was good.
http://pjmedia.com/blog/four-reasons-to-overthrow-iran%e2%80%99s-mullahs-in-2012/

[Conley]

True enough. We don't really have much in the way of insults but no doubt part of that is because we're so small.

[Conley]

I read this today and thought it was good.
http://pjmedia.com/blog/four-reasons-to-overthrow-iran’s-mullahs-in-2012/

That is a good article. Well thought out, not full of hyperbole and extremely convincing.

[Mister D]

Good news and I agree that this is far better than a conventional war.

[Peter1469]

But dont you see how hypocritical that is and dont you see how it is inevitable that they will get nukes

It is time for Plan B because A isnt working

We simply can't invade them. The nation is too big and surrounded by mountains.

We should have been supporting their dissident groups for the last 50 years.

[Mister D]

I read this today and thought it was good.
http://pjmedia.com/blog/four-reasons-to-overthrow-iran’s-mullahs-in-2012/

Hi, Alias. Are you the Alias from Political Hotwire? We chatted there briefly before the libs banned you.

[Peter1469]

This does not mean military action — nor does it mean invasion, conquest, or occupation. Regime change, in the case of Iran, means open support for a “Persian Spring (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/8608095/Why-we-should-back-the-Persian-Spring.html).” It means replicating the Reagan-Thatcher model vis-à-vis Lech Walesa in Poland andthe late Vaclav Havel (http://articles.cnn.com/2011-12-18/world/world_europe_czech-republic-vaclav-havel-obit_1_vaclav-havel-czech-president-velvet-revolution?_s=PM:EUROPE) in Czechoslovakia: supporting Iranian dissident and opposition groups rhetorically, politically, financially, materially, and morally until a popular uprising — simmering in Iran since the Green Movement in 2009 — brings down the few hundred or so theocratic mullahs threatening the world.

I agree

[Mister D]

This does not mean military action — nor does it mean invasion, conquest, or occupation. Regime change, in the case of Iran, means open support for a “Persian Spring (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/8608095/Why-we-should-back-the-Persian-Spring.html).” It means replicating the Reagan-Thatcher model vis-à-vis Lech Walesa in Poland andthe late Vaclav Havel (http://articles.cnn.com/2011-12-18/world/world_europe_czech-republic-vaclav-havel-obit_1_vaclav-havel-czech-president-velvet-revolution?_s=PM:EUROPE) in Czechoslovakia: supporting Iranian dissident and opposition groups rhetorically, politically, financially, materially, and morally until a popular uprising — simmering in Iran since the Green Movement in 2009 — brings down the few hundred or so theocratic mullahs threatening the world.

I agree

Same here. Iran's dissidents are worth supporting. Egypt's? :undecided:

[Alias]

Hi, Alias. Are you the Alias from Political Hotwire? We chatted there briefly before the libs banned you.

Yep, it's me. I've been banned from everywhere I think. I just move on and make the rounds.

[Conley]

Once Ahmadinejad is out of the picture we won't need Egypt's favor as an Arab leader as much as we used to. They were helpful when the ME was more united and hostile toward us but now much of the region is fighting among themselves.

[Conley]

Yep, it's me. I've been banned from everywhere I think. I just move on and make the rounds.

:laugh: So you're a trouble maker? What are your offenses?

[Mister D]

Yep, it's me. I've been banned from everywhere I think. I just move on and make the rounds.

Well, that won't happen here. We're not a nanny state. :grin: Welcome.

[Alias]

Once Ahmadinejad is out of the picture we won't need Egypt's favor as an Arab leader as much as we used to. They were helpful when the ME was more united and hostile toward us but now much of the region is fighting among themselves.

And that's a good thing. We want them fighting among themselves. As long as they do that, there will be more innocent lives saved.

[Alias]

Well, that won't happen here. We're not a nanny state. :grin: Welcome.

Thanks. I think I'll buzz my old friend TenneseeRain one of these days. I sneak in every once in a while just to let her know I haven't forgotten her. I drive her nuts.

[Conley]

And that's a good thing. We want them fighting among themselves. As long as they do that, there will be more innocent lives saved.

It is a good thing. Once the oil dries up and we leave there will be nothing there but tribes of barbarians slaughtering each other.

In the meantime though we're firmly sucking on their oil producing teet so short term we need some stability. If the shit really hits the fan then at least it will be another push toward alternative fuels.

[Mister D]

Thanks. I think I'll buzz my old friend TenneseeRain one of these days. I sneak in every once in a while just to let her know I haven't forgotten her. I drive her nuts.

That was pretty funny. :laugh: Too much drama over there.

[Alias]

That was pretty funny. :laugh: Too much drama over there.

Yeah, funny stuff. A socialist runs the place so we can't expect much else other than a lot of drama and twisting of words and their meanings. They're pretty stupid. Stupid people are always in some kind of drama. Life is hard enough, but for stupid people life is really hard.

[Mister D]

Ah we should probably keep this opff the main forum. No sense in starting a fight with them. Opt to receive PMs. right now you can't.

[Alias]

Ah we should probably keep this opff the main forum. No sense in starting a fight with them. Opt to receive PMs. right now you can't.

Thanks.

[Mister D]

I tried to send you one earlier. That's how I found out.

[BOOMSTICK]

This is exactly how we will win the war.

Anyone working to give Iran nukes is the enemy - we need to send that message and this does.

[Alias]

I tried to send you one earlier. That's how I found out.

I checked all my settings and it says I'm able to receive PMs. Must be a glitch. I'll work on it, thanks again.

[Alias]

This is exactly how we will win the war.

Anyone working to give Iran nukes is the enemy - we need to send that message and this does.

Exactly. Iran is the enemy of peace and freedom. We are the good guys.

[MMC]

Yep, it's me. I've been banned from everywhere I think. I just move on and make the rounds.

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1439126457630&id=4148f88b0a5e4bc5036cfd49ae865a9a&url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.funnypictures.com%2fpictures% 2fwelcome-beer-mat.jpg

Greetings Alias.....Welcome to the Political Forums of the Rant! :yo2:

[MMC]

Thanks. I think I'll buzz my old friend TenneseeRain one of these days. I sneak in every once in a while just to let her know I haven't forgotten her. I drive her nuts.

:smiley_ROFLMAO: Yeah....I remember ya Alias. But I was Always the one Who Stopped the Rain and Her Posse! :smiley-char092:

[MMC]

Ah we should probably keep this opff the main forum. No sense in starting a fight with them. Opt to receive PMs. right now you can't.

Party Pooper! :occasion18: :tongue20: I wish TR and Slinger would bring their azzes round here. :kick: :wink:

[Conley]

I don't even know those people but I know enough that we don't need that kind of monkey flinging poo around here. :grin:

Crap draws flies and you guys are going to get A*** and S****** back here trying to recruit. :angry: :laugh:

[MMC]

I don't even know those people but I know enough that we don't need that kind of monkey flinging poo around here. :grin:

Crap draws flies and you guys are going to get A*** and S****** back here trying to recruit. :angry: :laugh:

Yeah yeah yeah..... crap also draws what eats the flies too. The difference was those people were being protected by Staff, and their Special Hair Corp Club. They wouldn't come here where they have no protections. :wink:

[Alias]

:smiley_ROFLMAO: Yeah....I remember ya Alias. But I was Always the one Who Stopped the Rain and Her Posse! :smiley-char092:

What was your handle over there?

[MMC]

What was your handle over there?

Midwest Media Critic.....Bane to all their Posse Members.....Including the ones that were Staff. Although I did see that the Canuck did make each of them a Staff Member. Thats because the Canuck was Always a Wannabe Posse Member when she was at PF. :wink:

[Alias]

Midwest Media Critic.....Bane to all their Posse Members.....Including the ones that were Staff. Although I did see that the Canuck did make each of them a Staff Member. Thats because the Canuck was Always a Wannabe Posse Member when she was at PF. :wink:

Are you speaking of the socialist woman whe owns it? The sickos must own her.

[MMC]

Are you speaking of the socialist woman whe owns it? The sickos must own her.

http://i.imgur.com/Y4TrI.gif

[Peter1469]

This is exactly how we will win the war.

Anyone working to give Iran nukes is the enemy - we need to send that message and this does.

Plausible deniability. We didn't have anything to do with it. It sure is a dangerous world out there. Our condolences to the deceased. Where should we send flowers?

[MMC]

http://news.yahoo.com/covert-war-iran-heats-execution-nuclear-scientist-204000554.html

One of the most endangered people to be is an Iranian nuclear scientist. This was illustrated recently when two men on a motorcycle drove up next to a car being driven by Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan and placed a magnetic object on it.
Roshan was a chemistry expert and a director of the Natanz uranium enrichment facility in central Iran. He is the latest Iranian nuclear scientist to be assassinated in what appears to be a series of hits undertaken by persons unknown. The CIA and the Israeli Mossad have denied knowledge of the executions.

There is clearly a covert effort to delay the development of an Iranian nuclear weapon. Several other Iranian nuclear scientists have been liquidated in a similar manner as Roshan. A computer virus called Stuxnet was introduced, according to the New York Times (http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/SIG=13g1emrlg/EXP=1327535998/**http%3A//www.nytimes.com/2010/11/19/world/middleeast/19stuxnet.html%3F_r=2%26pagewanted=1%26hp), to wreck centrifuges at the Iranian nuclear facility at Bushehr.

Someone is killing the nuclear scientists of Iran. The Mossad and the CIA have the means to do so, though understandably Israel has the most immediate motive. But the covert war being waged by someone in Iran constitutes a delaying tactic. Inevitably, sterner measures would have to be undertaken, involving bombers and cruise missiles. That will take place sooner or later unless regime change happens in Iran.

The problem is that a ruling elite that believes they are following the will of God is not likely to be responsive to popular will. Iran has proven quite adroit and brutal in crushing popular uprisings. That suggests that someone is going to have to start aiding Iranian dissidents in a big way, including with arms as necessary. That would ratchet the covert war to a new level.....snip~

[Mister D]

This is exactly how we will win the war.

Anyone working to give Iran nukes is the enemy - we need to send that message and this does.

Sure beats dropping bombs and spending all kinds of money.

[Alias]

Sure beats dropping bombs and spending all kinds of money.

I agree. Israel and the US have the technology to do all kinds of mischief and we should do it.

[Mister D]

I agree. Israel and the US have the technology to do all kinds of mischief and we should do it.

Exactly. We can wage a covert war. Israel can help us in that regard.

[Alias]

http://www.americanthinker.com/cartoons/assets_c/2012/01/Iranian job center-thumb-700xauto-765.jpg