Genocide And Its Misuses

[Mister D]

An article on that Aremenian Genocidde law in France.

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Now, back to Turkey. Not a few of the EU's members do not want her in their club. The timid ones opt for a “rather not, if possible”. Therefore, “Europe” would be relieved if the bonus of calling a spade a spade would be that the not-quite-fitting Turks seek their destiny in their cultural-historical neighborhood. This makes a benefit out of a retaliation.
This leaves us with the issue raised by France’s action. Paris acted knowing that by scaling the barricade it takes a moral stand against a “safe” enemy. Looking good costs little while we all know that there are contemporary cases whose consequences make it wise to resist outrage. Reminding the West that it likes to indulge in the luxury of a double standard is not the purpose of this writing. Unwisely, in the light of the anticipated outrage, the fashion behind Paris’ decision is the issue to be addressed.
Politicized history is bad history. Accordingly, political sanctions against “bad history” might be a placebo against the frustration caused by what is, at best, idiocy. Nevertheless, making the assertion of historical errors into a crime instead of a subject for contempt is futile, a misuse of justice, and the wrong weapon against an irritating provocation.
Truth is not dependent of its acceptance by consent nor is it a subject for legislation. Two x 2 is four, no matter who approves or questions that. Even majority votes cannot change the real result of the calculation. No matter how many or who insists that it is three or five, the imposed answer remains bad math. Outside of the nut house, the wrong answer is best combated by better teaching and not by proscription. Even Stalin could not make genes disappear; all he could do was to kill the scientist Vavilov.

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4905

[MMC]

Funny how they forgot all this while working with the Syrian Rebels.....huh? That would be both France and Turkey.

[Mister D]

To be sure, it is all kind of silly.

[Peter1469]

Turkey would be wise to stay out of the EU. And for the love of Allah, don't join the Eurozone!

[Mister D]

Turkey would be wise to stay out of the EU. And for the love of Allah, don't join the Eurozone!

Indeed, why go where you are not wanted. :wink:

[Peter1469]

Or rather why go into a building that is about to collapse?

[Mister D]

Or rather why go into a building that is about to collapse?


If the E.U. collapses Europe will rebuild. Turkey will remain...well Turkey.

[MMC]

If the E.U. collapses Europe will rebuild. Turkey will remain...well Turkey.

With What?

[Mister D]

With What?

With the will, brains, and money it takes it rebuild.

[Conley]

Europe has certainly been through worse and come back from it.

[MMC]

With the will, brains, and money it takes it rebuild.

Okay.....one problem. They don't have the money!

[Mister D]

Okay.....one problem. They don't have the money!

I'm not saying it will happen overnight. BTW, we don't have the money either.

[Conley]

Okay.....one problem. They don't have the money!

Economic collapse means no one can collect on their debts. It would probably be better for the European people to rebuild their financial system than be in servitude for generations to the debts that their governments have run up.

[MMC]

I'm not saying it will happen overnight. BTW, we don't have the money either.


Well.....we do, and since we are the World's Reserve Currency. We have quite a bit left laying round. We also have huge amounts of Gold.

Not that you or I will get to see it. But the Fed does keep collecting it. Gold that is.

[Mister D]

Well.....we do, and since we are the World's Reserve Currency. We have quite a bit left laying round. We also have huge amounts of Gold.

If the global system collapses we are going down with it and if our debts disaapear so do everyones.

[waltky]

Atrocities in ISIS genocide...
http://www.politicalforum.com/images/smilies/icon_omg.gif
Testimony on ISIS Genocide: Parents Shown Video of Daughters Raped, Tortured – Given Body Parts in Bags
September 1, 2016 | As the Islamic State continues its genocide against Christians, Yazidis, and other religious minorities in Syria and Iraq, human rights activist and lawyer Jacqueline Isaac testified at the United Nations about some of the atrocities, including parents in Syria who were shown a video of their kidnapped daughters being raped and tortured by ISIS, and then given the dismembered body parts of their daughters in plastic bags.


Although Isaac, vice president of the humanitarian group Roads of Success, testified on April 28, her remarks – at the United Nations in New York City -- about the atrocities against women captured by ISIS were not covered by the national news networks in the United States, according to a search of the Nexis news database. In March, the British government declared the actions by ISIS as genocide; the U.S. government said the same on April 20.

In her testimony at the U.N., Jacqueline Isaac said, “I stand here today not as a lawyer, but as a fellow human being. I stand with Sanja. I stand with the beautiful, brave, resilient survivors that I spent extensive time with in Iraq – those that saw their parents killed before them and then taken by ISIS and categorized like merchandise based on whether they thought they were beautiful or not, their age, and whether they were virgins. Like merchandise.” “And as if that were not enough, they were raped, they were tortured, many committed suicide and died,” said Isaac. “And others may have attempted [suicide], but they survived, and they’re standing before us today.” “They’re crying out and asking, ‘Where are you, world? Where are you, world?’” “We went to the frontlines [in Iraq] where we were 200 meters away from ISIS,” Isaac testified. “We traveled to the Sinjar Mountain to spend time with survivors.” “My mother, who’s the president of the organization, just returned from the war-torn part of Syria in Homs [west of the Sinjar Mountains],” said Isaac. “She returned one week ago and testified before the U.K. Parliament. She learned of something very harrowing.”


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Roads of Success Vice President Jacqueline Isaac.

“Parents, like many of you today, had children but these children were in captivity,” said Isaac. “They got a knock on their door. They opened that door and they found plastic, black bags.” “The bags had the body parts of their daughters,” testified Isaac. “The body parts of their daughters. And a video! A video of their daughters being raped and tortured.” “Their parents, their parents are just like us,” she said. “They’re parents, they’re mothers, they’re fathers. These are not numbers. They are not numbers. They are just like us. But they’re living in an unfortunate part of the world.” “I promised that I would not leave without sharing their voices before the entire world,” said Isaac. “Not just to hear the stories, but to act. This is a call for action. We need to stand with our fellow brothers and our fellow sisters.”

Jacqueline Isaac was sponsored to speak at the United Nations by the Permanent Observer Mission of the Holy See to the U.N. Isaac has also testified about ISIS genocide before the U.S. Congress and the U.K. Parliament. Roads of Success “is a Southern California non-profit organization striving to advance human rights in the Middle East and advance the quality of life for people both locally and internationally,” according to its website.

http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/testimony-isis-genocide-parents-shown-video-daughters-raped-tortured-given