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Peter1469
02-09-2014, 07:52 AM
Here is an interesting article about modern marriage and sex. (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/magazine/does-a-more-equal-marriage-mean-less-sex.html?action=click&contentCollection=Opinion&module=MostEmailed&version=Full&region=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article) Modern marriage being defined as gender neutral roles between the husband and wife; and sex referring to not just quantity but quality.

Basically, studies that have gone back to the 1990s are showing that as gender roles become neutral, women lose sexual desire for their man. It isn’t a surprising result to me, but to the author it sure is. On the one hand women want men to be less masculine, then when they get to that result they no longer want to have sex with their new “man.”


A study called “Egalitarianism, Housework and Sexual Frequency in Marriage,” which appeared in The American Sociological Review last year, surprised many, precisely because it went against the logical assumption that as marriages improve by becoming more equal, the sex in these marriages will improve, too. Instead, it found that when men did certain kinds of chores around the house, couples had less sex. Specifically, if men did all of what the researchers characterized as feminine chores like folding laundry, cooking or vacuuming — the kinds of things many women say they want their husbands to do — then couples had sex 1.5 fewer times per month than those with husbands who did what were considered masculine chores, like taking out the trash or fixing the car. It wasn’t just the frequency that was affected, either — at least for the wives. The more traditional the division of labor, meaning the greater the husband’s share of masculine chores compared with feminine ones, the greater his wife’s reported sexual satisfaction.

Common
02-09-2014, 07:58 AM
Its just unbelievable with all the problems this country has that politicians and progressive groups spend all their time worrying about gay marriage and legalizing weed.

This entire gay marriage thing has nothing to do with love or marriage its specifically for grabbing govt taxpayer funds via entitlements.

I cant wait until they realize how many heterosexuals singles are going to play the game and get each others insurance and social security.

You cant cover your mother your father your sister or your brother with your health care, but you can cover a gay partner or someone who "SAYS" they are your gay partner, just how to you prove they arent. This is going to be fun down the road.

Captain Obvious
02-09-2014, 08:17 AM
Dominance/submissiveness is a naturally occurring theme in human evolution. From my experience (my wife), she prefers that I be very dominant. She is submissive. Sex is great for us. That's my experience.

Germanicus
02-09-2014, 09:03 AM
I saw a study showing men are less and less interesting in sex these days. I was glad about it. Girls are like always really offended if you dont act like you want to fuck them.

And there is all this pressure on men to act like sex is a big thing. Even if they do not really care about it as much as the female.

Women want to fuck more than men these days right?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2353361/Study-finds-people-actually-estimate-think-sex-have.html

Its all the trash they watch and read? (:

Kabuki Joe
02-09-2014, 01:12 PM
Here is an interesting article about modern marriage and sex. (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/magazine/does-a-more-equal-marriage-mean-less-sex.html?action=click&contentCollection=Opinion&module=MostEmailed&version=Full&region=Marginalia&src=me&pgtype=article) Modern marriage being defined as gender neutral roles between the husband and wife; and sex referring to not just quantity but quality.

Basically, studies that have gone back to the 1990s are showing that as gender roles become neutral, women lose sexual desire for their man. It isn’t a surprising result to me, but to the author it sure is. On the one hand women want men to be less masculine, then when they get to that result they no longer want to have sex with their new “man.”


...hence the Japanese "herbivore male"...

Germanicus
02-09-2014, 01:25 PM
Herbivore men (草食(系)男子 Sōshoku(-kei) danshi? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Installing_Japanese_character_sets)) is a social phenomenon in Japan of men who shun marriage or gaining a girlfriend.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men#cite_note-1) They are characteristically described as frugal, and interested in personal grooming.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men#cite_note-2) Under this categorization scheme, men and women are either herbivore type (草食系 sōshoku-kei? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Installing_Japanese_character_sets)) or carnivore type (肉食系 nikushoku-kei? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Installing_Japanese_character_sets)). As of September 2010, 36% of Japanese men between the ages of 16 and 19 perceived themselves in this way.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men#cite_note-tomikawa1-3) Additionally, two surveys of single men in their 20s and 30s found that 61% and 70%, respectively, considered themselves grass-eating men.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men#cite_note-4) This phenomenon is viewed by the Japanese government as a leading cause in the nation's declining birth rate, prompting the government to provide incentives for couples that have children, including payouts and free health care.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men#cite_note-autogenerated1-5)
The term was first coined by Maki Fukasawa in an article published on 13 October 2006, and became a buzz word in 2008 and 2009.[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men#cite_note-6)[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men#cite_note-7)[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men#cite_note-8)[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men#cite_note-9)
This phenomenon has also created a shift in the Japanese economy. Men have been buying products such as cosmetics and candy in greater quantities than before, and marketers have begun to shift to target this growing population. Products typical of the Japanese salaryman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salaryman), such as cars, have shown a notable decrease in recent years; products geared towards family life, typically shunned by salarymen, have seen an uptick amongst fathers, as well.[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men#cite_note-10)
According to Fukasawa, sōshoku danshi are "not without romantic relationships, but [have] a non-assertive, indifferent attitude towards desire of flesh". Later, philosopher Masahiro Morioka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masahiro_Morioka) redefined sōshoku-kei danshi as men who are "the nice guys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_guy) of a new generation who do not aggressively seek meat, but instead prefer to eat grass side by side with the opposite gender."[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men#cite_note-11) Sōshoku danshi are often given as the primary cause of single women's woes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men

That is very interesting. Have you ever considered the psychology of Japnaese eating food off of a hot chick wrapped in gladwrap? I have given it some thought. They do use gladwrap right?

edit- hot chicks can make you weak. They can steal your junzi from you.

edit- the Japanese are saying- fuck you hot chick. You think you have power over me? Look at me. Im eating food off of you. Do you like that?

They are disturbed those people. Are herbivores misunderstood?

And why dont chicks ever want to just cuddle these days? Or talk? And why do they always want to fuck on a first date?


They are modern-day hermits – hundreds of thousands of young Japanese who have retreated to their bedrooms. They disdain social contact and are unable to go to school or work for months or even years. In Japanese, it’s called “hikikomori,” or withdrawing, pulling inward.
http://global.umich.edu/2012/12/young-hermits-the-hikikomori-of-japan/

Capitalism is making the Japanese crazy if you ask me.

edit- they get right into eyeball licking in Japan hey. The Japanese mind is an interesting thing.


edit- have you guys ever had a chick lick your eyeballs?

sachem
02-09-2014, 02:46 PM
*sigh*

Peter1469
02-09-2014, 03:02 PM
*sigh*

Well the topic was interesting....

sachem
02-09-2014, 05:41 PM
Well the topic was interesting....It is.

Captain Obvious
02-09-2014, 09:35 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men

That is very interesting. Have you ever considered the psychology of Japnaese eating food off of a hot chick wrapped in gladwrap? I have given it some thought. They do use gladwrap right?

Like a reverse Pittsburgh Platter? (google it)


edit- hot chicks can make you weak. They can steal your junzi from you.

Unless you wear a condom.

I used one once. Once! - and then technically didn't, couldn't do it. Of course I'm monogamous.


edit- the Japanese are saying- fuck you hot chick. You think you have power over me? Look at me. Im eating food off of you. Do you like that?

Which is why there's no Japanese BDSM category on youporn.


They are disturbed those people. Are herbivores misunderstood?

I don't understand the question.


And why dont chicks ever want to just cuddle these days? Or talk? And why do they always want to fuck on a first date?

It's a common problem everywhere. :rollseyes:


Capitalism is making the Japanese crazy if you ask me.

Agreed. They had a great thing going with imperialism.


edit- they get right into eyeball licking in Japan hey. The Japanese mind is an interesting thing.

edit- have you guys ever had a chick lick your eyeballs?

Can't say I've had.

Might have to add that to the foreplay rulebook. 1) Don't go near the bunghole, 2) Sensitive nipples, off limits also, 3) Don't lick my eyeballs.

Captain Obvious
02-09-2014, 10:32 PM
I just recently found out my wife is sort of submissive. We've been having a sort of "falling back in love" thing lately and have been talking about stuff like this a lot. During one of our "chats", she tells me that she really digs it when I just... go for it. So I give it a shot and damn, it works. Basically anytime, anywhere I just dive in. Except of course in situations like on the dinner table at her mom's house at Thanksgiving but we could be washing dishes and I can jump right in.

Never knew that about her after 22 years of marriage.

So I'm experimenting. I don't consider myself a "dominant" by any stretch and I don't get into rough sex, but she was telling me something about what was going on in a book she was reading - hair pulling thing so I tried that. I even bit her in the back fairly hard (drew a little blood) and she went nutso. I gotta tell you, it was a rush. Haven't gotten into that habit though, every once in a while.

So she's reading this book and telling me how this guy ties up his wife (50 shades book) and I ask her if she wants me to do that to her, she says yeah. Tells me to get a blindfold also. Haven't gone there yet, but It's on my to-do list. Weekend getaway thing though. I don't know if that will be something I'll get into unless she really does.

It's a fascinating subject, especially now I'm experiencing this stuff first hand - and I never realized it was there all these years.

Sorry for the TMI but I'm an open book.

Chloe
02-09-2014, 10:38 PM
I just recently found out my wife is sort of submissive. We've been having a sort of "falling back in love" thing lately and have been talking about stuff like this a lot. During one of our "chats", she tells me that she really digs it when I just... go for it. So I give it a shot and damn, it works. Basically anytime, anywhere I just dive in. Except of course in situations like on the dinner table at her mom's house at Thanksgiving but we could be washing dishes and I can jump right in.

Never knew that about her after 22 years of marriage.

So I'm experimenting. I don't consider myself a "dominant" by any stretch and I don't get into rough sex, but she was telling me something about what was going on in a book she was reading - hair pulling thing so I tried that. I even bit her in the back fairly hard (drew a little blood) and she went nutso. I gotta tell you, it was a rush. Haven't gotten into that habit though, every once in a while.

So she's reading this book and telling me how this guy ties up his wife (50 shades book) and I ask her if she wants me to do that to her, she says yeah. Tells me to get a blindfold also. Haven't gone there yet, but It's on my to-do list. Weekend getaway thing though. I don't know if that will be something I'll get into unless she really does.

It's a fascinating subject, especially now I'm experiencing this stuff first hand - and I never realized it was there all these years.

Sorry for the TMI but I'm an open book.

Yes, yes you are.

Captain Obvious
02-09-2014, 10:43 PM
Yes, yes you are.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

There are too many things in our culture that are "taboo", I like to be honest.

Chloe
02-09-2014, 10:48 PM
You say that like it's a bad thing.

There are too many things in our culture that are "taboo", I like to be honest.

I was being a little judgmental of you admittedly, i'm sorry. It probably wouldn't hurt if people were more open and honest about that kind of stuff I guess. I'm probably a little bit uptight over that kind of stuff.

Germanicus
02-09-2014, 11:14 PM
Oh my god I hate those roll eye smileys.

Are herbivores misunderstood? You dont understand. Well, whoever is calling them herbivores is kinda calling them weak. Japanese have a strong culture running back to the samurai. To reject females all together is actually a strong move if you ask me. Maybe they should be called feemen. And carnivores? Are people that waste time on females carnivors? Predators? Or weak slaves?

And dont you get bored of fucking just one person forever? Condoms arent that bad. And you dont need them for everything.

edit- also, Im pretty sure there is bd/sm Japanese porn. Or do you mean thats all they are into? I dont understand. The Japanese have a more highly developed mind than most westerners.

Have you read Of Mice and Men? I really like it. And agree with it.

My Uncle Oswald by Roald Dahl is good too. It is about monogamy.

Captain Obvious
02-09-2014, 11:21 PM
Oh yt god I hate those roll eye smileys.

Are herbivores misunderstood? You dont understand. Well, whoever is calling them herbivores is kinda calling them weak. Japanese have a strong culture running back to the samurai. To reject females all together is actually a strong move if you ask me. Maybe they should be called feemen. And carnivores? Are people that waste time on females carnivors? Predators? Or weak slaves?

And dont you get bored of fucking just one person forever? Condoms arent that bad. And you dont need them for everything.

edit- also, Im pretty sure there is bd/sm Japanese porn. Or do you mean thats all they are into? I dont understand. The Japanese have a more highly developed mind than most westerners.

To be honest I never considered herb/carn much of anything else than that's what they are.

Next question - no, I don't. I married up in terms of looks, out of my paygrade. Sex is better now than it was when we first met. I'm not kidding and she agrees.

I thought you were a sort of prude in this sense? Maybe I misunderstood you. Either way is cool.

As for the Japanese on porn, yeah - they also got into foot binding and vending machine panties. Sorry, I'll pass.

You know what makes good sex? Fucking!

Germanicus
02-09-2014, 11:29 PM
((: I own you. You try so hard.

Im pretty sure I understand Japanese 'herbivores'. I do not think that you do.

What do you mean out of your paygrade? And how ugly are you?

Germanicus
02-09-2014, 11:38 PM
pay grade
noun


1.
a grade or level on a pay scale.
"workers are to be balloted by the union for a proposed strike over the secretaries' pay grades"



This is how you attract a partner? ((: Capitalists.

Without capitalism you would still be a virgin right? Or close enough.

Would you have been born without capitalism?

((: A bet you have a real swagger about you dont you? (:

edit- Support capitalism everyone. So ugly people can get a fuck. (:

edit-HA! Capitalists.

Captain Obvious
02-10-2014, 09:12 AM
You're out of your fucking mind. Try prozac.

Nah, I'm a good looking dude, especially when I was in my teens and 20's. She was a 9.7 back then, total knockout. She's going to be 48 in another month but she still has that baby face and dimples. She kept her good looks, better than I did.

Codename Section
02-10-2014, 10:38 AM
Women like alpha males. Even the women who say they want sensitive guys will sleep with you if you have nice guns and are confident. This is a fact. You cannot deny evolution.

Kabuki Joe
02-10-2014, 01:41 PM
Oh my god I hate those roll eye smileys.

Are herbivores misunderstood? You dont understand. Well, whoever is calling them herbivores is kinda calling them weak. Japanese have a strong culture running back to the samurai. To reject females all together is actually a strong move if you ask me. Maybe they should be called feemen. And carnivores? Are people that waste time on females carnivors? Predators? Or weak slaves?

And dont you get bored of fucking just one person forever? Condoms arent that bad. And you dont need them for everything.

edit- also, Im pretty sure there is bd/sm Japanese porn. Or do you mean thats all they are into? I dont understand. The Japanese have a more highly developed mind than most westerners.

Have you read Of Mice and Men? I really like it. And agree with it.

My Uncle Oswald by Roald Dahl is good too. It is about monogamy.


...I read somewhere that the Japanese population is on a decline...also they have a huge suicide rate...the Japanese aren't as proud as they once were...