How The World Works

[Alias]

A CHRISTIAN REPUBLICAN: You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. You offer to share your milk and pray your neighbor gets his own cow soon.

AN AMERICAN DEMOCRAT: You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. You feel guilty for being successful. You vote people into office who tax your cows, forcing you to sell one to raise money to pay the tax. The people you voted for then take the tax money and buy a cow and give it to your neighbor. You feel righteous.

A COMMUNIST: You have two cows. The government seizes both and provides you with milk.

A FASCIST: You have two cows. The government seizes both and sells you the milk. You join the underground and start a campaign of sabotage.

A SOCIALIST: You have two cows. The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor.

DEMOCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE: You have two cows. The government taxes you to the point you have to sell both to support a man in a foreign country who has only one cow, which was a gift from your government.

CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE: You have two cows. You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of cows.

BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE: You have two cows. The government takes them both, shoots one, milks the other, pays you for the milk, then pours the milk down the drain.

A FRENCH CORPORATION: You have two cows. You go on strike because you want three cows.

[Conley]

BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE: You have two cows. The government takes them both, shoots one, milks the other, pays you for the milk, then pours the milk down the drain.

That's some truth right there.

[spunkloaf]

How convenient of you to metaphorically speak so highly of the republicans and Christians, starkly contrasted against a morbid and painfully inaccurate picture of everybody else.

Is integrity too much to ask of people in this fucking country?

[Mister D]

The French one is hilarious.

[Conley]

How convenient of you to metaphorically speak so highly of the republicans and Christians, starkly contrasted against a morbid and painfully inaccurate picture of everybody else.

Is integrity too much to ask of people in this fucking country?

I thought the bureaucracy one was pretty apt. I think it's just an email forward, not something that reflects the integrity of the country.

[spunkloaf]

The French one is hilarious.

K fine yeah that is kinda funny.

[ramone]

How convenient of you to metaphorically speak so highly of the republicans and Christians, starkly contrasted against a morbid and painfully inaccurate picture of everybody else.

Is integrity too much to ask of people in this fucking country?

So explain your view, I'm agnostic so the god issue is mute with me. The rest was spot on, explain your view here and back it up please so I don't have to do it for you.

[Alias]

How convenient of you to metaphorically speak so highly of the republicans and Christians, starkly contrasted against a morbid and painfully inaccurate picture of everybody else.

Is integrity too much to ask of people in this fucking country?

I understand your reaction. Kinda like knowing you have a pimple on your nose and then you see it in the mirror and realize it's a big as an apple.

[Conley]

K fine yeah that is kinda funny.

Yeah, the French are everyone's punching bag. :angry: :rollseyes: :laugh:

[spunkloaf]

So explain your view, I'm agnostic so the god issue is mute with me. The rest was spot on, explain your view here and back it up please so I don't have to do it for you.

My view is exactly like I said, that people point fingers and paint ugly portraits of those they disagree with at the expense of integrity. Too much to wrap your head around?

[Alias]

My view is exactly like I said, that people point fingers and paint ugly portraits of those they disagree with at the expense of integrity. Too much to wrap your head around?

I think you will need to be a bit more specific. Names, places, and things.

[spunkloaf]

I think you will need to be a bit more specific. Names, places, and things.

I was referring directly to your post which started this thread. It's a notion among many others which suggests republican Christians are saints, and that everybody else can just go to hell. This is the third time explaining myself. Why don't you explain yourself, and why you choose to believe in your post enough to share it with everybody? What makes you think democrats want to take everybody's taxes and give it all to the less fortunate? What makes you think there is not a solitary flaw in the republican Christian agenda? Further more, why are you expressing yourself by copy-pasting spam from an email, and why did you choose something which could barely challenge the logic of a third grader?

[ramone]

My view is exactly like I said, that people point fingers and paint ugly portraits of those they disagree with at the expense of integrity. Too much to wrap your head around?

Yes, I have a big head so I can't quite wrap that around it. Do you include yourself in those that paint ugly portraits of those they disagree with, you seem to be one of the first to act an ass. I usually have to explain things to retards, you seem to be no exception.

[spunkloaf]

Yes, I have a big head so I can't quite wrap that around it. Do you include yourself in those that paint ugly portraits of those they disagree with, you seem to be one of the first to act an ass. I usually have to explain things to retards, you seem to be no exception.

You're the one who started with the name-calling, ass. I was merely expressing my opinion versus somebody else's. If you want to take it to a different level, I will win. I dare you.

[spunkloaf]

ramone. I asked you to explain nothing to me, dummy. If you're going to insult me, at least be relevant.

[ramone]

You're the one who started with the name-calling, ass. I was merely expressing my opinion versus somebody else's. If you want to take it to a different level, I will win. I dare you.

No I didn't, I asked you to explain what you were talking about, you haven't done it yet, Care to do that for me without some asinine post? I give what I get and so far you have gotten exactly what you deserve.

[Stoney]

Its an email. Its supposed to be funny. Its got some truth to it. No need to get all excited. Make some corrections if you wish.

[spunkloaf]

No I didn't, I asked you to explain what you were talking about, you haven't done it yet, Care to do that for me without some asinine post? I give what I get and so far you have gotten exactly what you deserve.

I've explained myself 3 times. Sorry about your thick skull, and your inability to comprehend. But I can't sit here and explain myself for the rest of eternity. I'm still trying to figure out what you claim I asked you to to explain to me, and why you called me an ass and told me you only have to explain yourself to retards like me. Where did that bullshit come from? Are you having conversations with nonexistent people? Please keep this going. I've got plenty of tension to release, and you're begging to be my punching bag.

[spunkloaf]

Its an email. Its supposed to be funny. Its got some truth to it. No need to get all excited. Make some corrections if you wish.

Funny to whom? Republican Christian kindergarteners? I have an excellent sense of humor. Why isn't this funny to me?

[ramone]

Its an email. Its supposed to be funny. Its got some truth to it. No need to get all excited. Make some corrections if you wish.

Well you know me Stoney, I ask questions of people. Seems this one is not capable of an answer besides the usual liberal mumbojumbo. Kinda like that commercial, "Row, it's such an easy word", "why" is also an easy word. I'll leave it at that and move on I guess.

[Stoney]

I think there are parts of it that are funny.

Tell us what's got you all up tight about it. You might get some agreement.

[spunkloaf]

See the first part of the "joke?" Yeah. The part where it says "A CHRISTIAN REPUBLICAN: You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. You offer to share your milk and pray your neighbor gets his own cow soon." That part sets a sugary and false standard of republican Christians having good neighborliness, which is then contrasted by the rest of the joke as it condemns democrats and likens them to socialists, communists, fascists, etc. Then it also mentions something about capitalism, and makes that look even better. So now capitalism, republicans, and Christians are all happily married in the same American goody-goody happy-happy bullshit category. And everything else is made to look like shit. None of this even remotely depicts, portrays, reflects, resembles, characterizes, or compliments ANYTHING in our real-world culture. Yet, the suggestive stereotypes that are played out in the joke are so painfully typical that I feel like I could go insane. And if I am asked one more time to explain myself, I swear to God that I will.

[ramone]

See the first part of the "joke?" Yeah. The part where it says "A CHRISTIAN REPUBLICAN: You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. You offer to share your milk and pray your neighbor gets his own cow soon." That part sets a sugary and false standard of republican Christians having good neighborliness, which is then contrasted by the rest of the joke as it condemns democrats and likens them to socialists, communists, fascists, etc. Then it also mentions something about capitalism, and makes that look even better. So now capitalism, republicans, and Christians are all happily married in the same American goody-goody happy-happy bullshit category. And everything else is made to look like shit. None of this even remotely depicts, portrays, reflects, resembles, characterizes, or compliments ANYTHING in our real-world culture. Yet, the suggestive stereotypes that are played out in the joke are so painfully typical that I feel like I could go insane. And if I am asked one more time to explain myself, I swear to God that I will.

Well, in general everything the modern day Democrap does looks like "shit". Your words not mine, Your shouting in caps of some Christian republican shows you lack of knowledge of things. Do you think there are no Christian Democrats? So explain to me where your socialistic views are better than my libertarian views. You failed to do that once before, I'll give you the chance to do that now.

First:
Just what socialistic society has there ever been that has survived and made it work?

Second:
Can you differentiate between a modern day Democrat and a socialist with this new health care, and the mandate of paid birth control by the tax payer. Just how can you force people to pay for somebody's health care along with birth control? Is that justifiable in your opinion. How much of that are you paying, you probably get money back at the first of the year.

Third:
The "Suggestive stereotypes that are played out" are real. If you can't digest that then I can't help you.

[spunkloaf]

Is there an ignore button anywhere on this forum? I intend to have logical debates with people here, and it's becoming impossible with all this stupid bullshit from ignorant, loose-lipped, closed-minded people. I don't go around saying things like "RETARDicans" or "ConservaFUCKS" when I want people to take me seriously. I expect nothing less from anybody else.

For real. I really don't want to have to sort through this disrespectful bullshit. I'll just leave again if this can't be brought under control.

[Conley]

Is there an ignore button anywhere on this forum? I intend to have logical debates with people here, and it's becoming impossible with all this stupid bullshit from ignorant, loose-lipped, closed-minded people. I don't go around saying things like "RETARDicans" or "ConservaFUCKS" when I want people to take me seriously. I expect nothing less from anybody else.

For real. I really don't want to have to sort through this disrespectful bullshit. I'll just leave again if this can't be brought under control.

There's an ignore button but honestly Spunk, you seem pissed as hell and looking for a fight. I'm not sure what's up?

[ramone]

Is there an ignore button anywhere on this forum? I intend to have logical debates with people here, and it's becoming impossible with all this stupid bullshit from ignorant, loose-lipped, closed-minded people. I don't go around saying things like "RETARDicans" or "ConservaFUCKS" when I want people to take me seriously. I expect nothing less from anybody else.

For real. I really don't want to have to sort through this disrespectful bullshit. I'll just leave again if this can't be brought under control.

Click the forum actions at the top of the page, then click settings. You will see the ignore tag on the left side, be my guest add me to it.

[spunkloaf]

There's an ignore button but honestly Spunk, you seem pissed as hell and looking for a fight. I'm not sure what's up?

I thought I explained myself. but here it is again.

"I intend to have logical debates with people here, and it's becoming impossible with all this stupid bullshit from ignorant, loose-lipped, closed-minded people. I don't go around saying things like "RETARDicans" or "ConservaFUCKS" when I want people to take me seriously. I expect nothing less from anybody else."

[Conley]

I thought I explained myself. but here it is again.

"I intend to have logical debates with people here, and it's becoming impossible with all this stupid bullshit from ignorant, loose-lipped, closed-minded people. I don't go around saying things like "RETARDicans" or "ConservaFUCKS" when I want people to take me seriously. I expect nothing less from anybody else."

Who said this and where?

[Conley]

Here's the thing - you are lumping all Christians together the way the people (not talking about this forum, but offline) who have pissed you off lump together all atheists. You know there are plenty of Democrats who are Christians, plenty of liberals too. So when you lump people together, people are going to take offense. If you or I said the same thing about blacks, gays, or whatever group you know we'd stand up against that shit.

[spunkloaf]

Dude, you're killing me. ramone is the one trying to start fights with his shitty play on words like "Democrap." What's the fucking purpose of anybody saying something like that? I can think of a few, and none involve logic or any intention of a civilized discussion. It's something a little four year old would say to get a rise out of somebody else.

[Conley]

Dude, you're killing me. ramone is the one trying to start fights with his shitty play on words like "Democrap." What's the fucking purpose of anybody saying something like that? I can think of a few, and none involve logic or any intention of a civilized discussion. It's something a little four year old would say to get a rise out of somebody else.

But this all started based on an email forward post, yes? I posted something similar a night or two before. It's just a joke to get the discussion started.

[spunkloaf]

here's the thing - you are lumping all christians together the way the people (not talking about this forum, but offline) who have pissed you off lump together all atheists. You know there are plenty of democrats who are christians, plenty of liberals too. So when you lump people together, people are going to take offense. If you or i said the same thing about blacks, gays, or whatever group you know we'd stand up against that shit.

i am not!!!! Look at my posts!!!!!!!! I have been as descriptive and exclusive as i can with my labels!!!!!!!!!! Other people are not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am trying to say the very same thing you are!!!!!!!! You are killing me right now conley!!!!! This is why i am so damn pissed off, i am saying black and people are reading white!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is frustrating as all fucking hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Conley]

i am not!!!! Look at my posts!!!!!!!! I have been as descriptive and exclusive as i can with my labels!!!!!!!!!! Other people are not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am trying to say the very same thing you are!!!!!!!! You are killing me right now conley!!!!! This is why i am so damn pissed off, i am saying black and people are reading white!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is frustrating as all fucking hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK. Deep breaths...let's take em one by one.

[Conley]

And I hope you know, but I'm not trying to add to your pissedoffedness. We've known each other off and on for a long time now.

[spunkloaf]

But this all started based on an email forward post, yes? I posted something similar a night or two before. It's just a joke to get the discussion started.

Dude, it frustrated me because people think it is funny, and I think it's intellectually and politically misleading. In other words, other people think it's candy and I think it's poison. that is very frustrating to me.

[Conley]

Right, but why not point out that atheists share their cows and the milk? Or that there are plenty of Democrats who are Christians? Or Republican atheists?

It just seemed to me that the reaction wasn't in proportion to the original post. There's only poison there if you allow yourself to ingest it.

[spunkloaf]

It doesn't matter if I want to have a real discussion with anybody. It doesn't matter if what other people say even makes any SENSE. As long as they all agree on it, it's kosher for them. As soon as I try to shine a different light on it, I'm the biggest dick face on the planet. That's what I'm pissed about. I've been trying my hardest to be respectful towards republicans, conservatives, Christians, etc. al. I think some people can agree. When I come across jokes like this, it's a slap in the face. Then when people start insulting me because I voice my opinion on it, it's a double slap. Now I feel like people are pretending they don't even know what I'm saying, when I feel like I'm doing a perfectly good job expressing myself. It's maddening.

[Mainecoons]

Sheesh, it was just a joke, a play on words. Lighten up already.

[Conley]

It doesn't matter if I want to have a real discussion with anybody. It doesn't matter if what other people say even makes any SENSE. As long as they all agree on it, it's kosher for them. As soon as I try to shine a different light on it, I'm the biggest dick face on the planet. That's what I'm pissed about. I've been trying my hardest to be respectful towards republicans, conservatives, Christians, etc. al. I think some people can agree. When I come across jokes like this, it's a slap in the face. Then when people start insulting me because I voice my opinion on it, it's a double slap. Now I feel like people are pretending they don't even know what I'm saying, when I feel like I'm doing a perfectly good job expressing myself. It's maddening.

You're 100% wrong.

You're not the biggest dick face on the planet.

:grin:

[spunkloaf]

I'm getting daggers thrown at me right now and nothing is being done or even noticed, but if I dare to take out a nail-clipper, "HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHAT AN ASSHOLE."

[Conley]

I'm getting daggers thrown at me right now and nothing is being done or even noticed, but if I dare to take out a nail-clipper, "HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHAT AN ASSHOLE."

Who has said that? I just got back on after a good night and it seemed you were all worked up.

[spunkloaf]

I won't lighten up. I voiced an opinion and I got attacked for it, and nobody wants to see that. So I'm still unsettled. This is what I get for being in a prejudiced forum.

[spunkloaf]

nothing. I'm done. I'm sure I've provided enough entertainment for the evening. Having fun ramone, you disrespectful fucking twerp? Fuck you. I'm out.

[Conley]

Hope you feel better.

[ramone]

nothing. I'm done. I'm sure I've provided enough entertainment for the evening. Having fun ramone, you disrespectful fucking twerp? Fuck you. I'm out.

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