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Germanicus
03-11-2014, 09:29 PM
I know lots of guys that have been in the military.

What stands out to me about military guys is that they are brainwashed into believing themselves to be above a civilian and different.

My Dad was in the military and he has told me about it. I have also seen evidence of this in the guys that I know that have been military. I know a guy that has semi recovered and is not such an arrogant jerk now.

What I hate about you guys is how you claim to be so hard because you are military and act like a guy like me should fear you. I do not. Tough guy.

I remember when I lived in Wagga Wagga everyone hated military guys. There is a training base in Wagga- Kapooka and that is where NSW guys go for basic training. My Dad was there. Everyone in Wagga hates military wankers. They come to town on time off and act like cockheads and there is always fights.

I know you military guys know what I am talking about.

Do you guys really believe you are more important than a civilian? You are above us are you? See to one of these guys 'civilian' is considered to be an insult.

Any military guys on here that have recovered from the brainwashing?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOpxdUjPiAs

Military guys are the most hated wankers in all of Wagga. Easy. Are military as obnoxious and arrogant in USA? They seem worse to me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VFgDYkTXUQ

Think being in the military impresses people? You guys are wankers.

Green Arrow
03-11-2014, 09:49 PM
I can't speak for Australian soldiers, but American soldiers are more important than American civilians, and I say this as a civilian. They put their lives on the line every day so that the American equivalent of assholes like you can treat them like shit freely. You can disagree with the way our governments use them all you want, I sure as hell do, but to treat the men and women of the military as anything less than the best of people is wrong. They do what you and I are unwilling to do. That makes them special.

If you don't like it, get your ass out there and do what they do. I bet you won't.

GrassrootsConservative
03-11-2014, 09:52 PM
You'd probably think a lot more of your military if they ever did anything. Our military fought for our freedoms, our military won wars, changed the world, stopped the nazis. Your military probably isn't special, but ours is.

Germanicus
03-12-2014, 12:47 AM
I can't speak for Australian soldiers, but American soldiers are more important than American civilians, and I say this as a civilian. They put their lives on the line every day so that the American equivalent of assholes like you can treat them like shit freely. You can disagree with the way our governments use them all you want, I sure as hell do, but to treat the men and women of the military as anything less than the best of people is wrong. They do what you and I are unwilling to do. That makes them special.

If you don't like it, get your ass out there and do what they do. I bet you won't.

But itys your job to say that isnt it?

And yeah, I would not ever ever join a military and go to another mans nation and shoot people I do not know and have never met just to steal their resources for the western ruling class.

I am no merc.

And this is exactly what I am talking about. I am happy to risk my life for a worthy cause.

And yes, the likes of you should be ashamed if you support what they do. You must be a true coward. Worse than them

edit- like comics? Everyone should try em.. You are pretty obvious fake socialist.

Germanicus
03-12-2014, 12:51 AM
You'd probably think a lot more of your military if they ever did anything. Our military fought for our freedoms, our military won wars, changed the world, stopped the nazis. Your military probably isn't special, but ours is.

Are you a baby boomer? you sound like one.

The 'troops' are a tiny tiny percent of western population. And the vast majority of westerners are against what they have done and ashamed of our nations. This is why UK would not support US in Syria. This would have been political idiocy. The public knows what happened.

But we also know that most that were recruited were poor and stupid. And we are civilized people. But no man wants to hear these wankers tell us how toygh and important they are.

Or that they are better than us for doing something that we strongly disagree with.

Germanicus
03-12-2014, 12:53 AM
Where are the soldier boys anyway? Let them speak for themselves.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwBRd3_HSfk

Hoo RAH!

Germanicus
03-12-2014, 12:56 AM
And the Aussie military has a proud history. The US military history is one of nonsense and shame.

Plus, they are not more important than workers.

Why did Germany lose WW1? Because of worker strikes at home caused by commies. Sooooo..... CHECK!

They are not more important than civilians. Without civilian support they are nothing. And should think about that.

And also think about the fact that nobody wants to hear from them. They piss more people off than anything. Flawed soft power from USA. As usual.


The public is against the war so put loud mouth, obnoxious and arrogant ex-soldiers everywhere telling as how great and better than the rest of us they all are. Good thinking USA..

Germanicus
03-12-2014, 01:05 AM
Do they really think western civilians will not strike against them when Russia and China come at them? (:

Karma is a bitch right? Some men are going to come to our nations and take our stuff before you know it. And Russia and China will have no problem putting boots on our ground.

I reckon the propagandist soldiers should all stop. That is the best thing they could do for USA. Stop insulting everyone. And get the fuck out of our faces.

And the fucking last people on earth I want to see attacking the western poor are fucking ex-military. I mean for fuck sake.

edit and HEY you want to tell people about "how you can afford it" do ya soldier boy? Well people dont want to hear that. What the fuck? Think people want to hear about where you may move when you retire do you tough guys? Why dont you people do yourselves a favour and shut up? The public hates you enough as it is.

A fucken landslide is coming.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2M4XDQbt7g

Dixie Chicks fucking rule!

Germanicus
03-12-2014, 01:12 AM
I risk my life for fun idiot.

edit- ban me please. I want to go back to China Daily. Let me give up on us. I can tell we are all fucked. Watch the news and use your brain. Its all over. Its just a matter of time. And we deserve what is coming. We let them do it.

edit- it has gotten to the point that even I no longer feel that it is sensible to assist China in any way. And that is saying something.

I have been following this since we bombed civilian buildings in Iraq. ( innocents ) and our news told us we were trying to hit Sadamm or his sons.. Im thinking, well what about all of the innocent people we are murdering? Not many westerners seemed to notice that. And do any remember? What is wrong with you people?

edit- and you want to tell us that USA "scared the shit out of the world by going it alone and ignoring the UN?" WRONG! You dont tell us! We tell you! Doing that removed any doubt in all decent peoples minds that USA is out of control. All of the things leading up to today can be linked to that error.

edit- watch 'The Factor' and listen to the fear in OReillys voice. Look into his beady eyes. Even he knows.

Edit-- GO ALONE AGAIN! I FUCKING DARE YOU! GO!

edit- You need us do you tough guys? We need you dont we? We all need you because we are all fucking helpless without the mighty USA turning the entire world against the west including most of the west against itself.

We need US protection dont we? We all owe USA dont we? We are in your debt arent we? We would all be speaking German wouldnt we? Like the allies did nothing in WW2. It was all USA that came in late. We owe you. Until the end of all time. So smash that debt up a few more trillion while you still can. Its cool. We dont mind. Have no budget. Have an ongoing trade defiicit.

And call us all socialists and idiots. Pretend that we must follow the ways of the USA, the shinning star of democracy and freedom. We are your slaves and we fucking love it. Thankyou America. Thank you so fucking much. We all owe you. We would be speaking German.

Was no The Rats of Tobruk! There was no Battle of Long Tan. There was no Light Horse! There was no KOKODA!

Its all you! Thanyou mighty American saviours. You are our masters and that is the way we want it. Because you are the smartest.

edit- HEY AMERICA! WHY DONT YOU FORGET TO MENTION AUSTRALIA AS YOUR ALLY WHENEVER YOU SPEAK> WE DONT EXIST DO WE? WE DID NOTHING! UK and EUROPE and CANADA! THERE IS NO AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND! WE DONT EXIST!


WE ALL FUCKING LOVE AMERICA! OF COURSE! WHY WOULDNT WE!!!!!!!!!?

edit- You are the greatest! You are the best! You are exceptional! You are better! We want to be just like America! HAIL! HAIL! HAIL! HAIL! HAIL! AMERICA! HOORAY!

zelmo1234
03-12-2014, 01:15 AM
I feel bad for you if that is the way that your military acts, I have had the privilege of being around and training many of the military persons most of my life, and with rare exception, they consider themselves to be servants of the civilian population!

And if your military is made up of the weak and the stupid as you say, that would make sense. The US military however is not. The most humble people I know are some of the most highly trained people on the planet, though you would never know by there actions.

So if you get the tuff guy boasting of his power over you, I would say that you are right not to fear him! You would also be correct in not fearing those who truly have the heart of the servant, which I would say make up 99% of our military. You would do well to respect them however, and know you enough from this forum, I am sure that you do actually give them the respect that they deserve, even if it is out of fear, which is likely the case for you.

Not there are some contractors that have that arrogance about them, sad to say, I tried to never allow this among my employee's, and usually these contractors did not have any major jobs or really crappy missions. However I would say that it is a good idea to give the boasting contractor a lot of room, they lack the honor that our military personal have. And are not likely to suffer fools such as yourself!

zelmo1234
03-12-2014, 01:17 AM
I risk my life for fun idiot.

I highly doubt that you would risk your life for anyone or anything? It is not part of your DNA. In your posts we see your longing for a master and protector in every aspect of your life!

Not that this is a bad thing, it is just who you are, and that arrogance that you have is that of someone that is a tuff guy behind closed doors, or at least that has been my experience with the general population!

Green Arrow
03-12-2014, 01:40 AM
Leave him to his nervous breakdown, zelmo.

zelmo1234
03-12-2014, 01:42 AM
Leave him to his nervous breakdown, zelmo.

OH! no! if I can help with that I will. You can't fix Stupid, but you sure the hell can punish it!

Peter1469
03-12-2014, 05:46 AM
:laugh:

Libhater
03-12-2014, 02:34 PM
Hey Germ, I have an example (among many similar examples) of where the civilian dirtbags thought they
were more important and more righteous than the enlisted man. This example also happened to me.

Returning soldiers from the Vietnam War were harrassed and spit on by numerous anti war/anti American
dirtbags. Most of these low life trash were called anti establishment hippy rejects from the peace not war
gang that later included your algores', your john kerrys', your draft dodging bill klinton and most every
democrap/liberal in congress at the time.
Most of these whining jackasses were and perhhaps are still living off of their parents largesse. I'm wondering if
you think the veterans or the current military personnel feel some type of superiority over civilians, after having
just read my example of how and why I see it happening the other way around--especially when you deal with
anti war pacifist leftists?

The Sage of Main Street
03-12-2014, 04:58 PM
I can't speak for Australian soldiers, but American soldiers are more important than American civilians, and I say this as a civilian. They put their lives on the line every day so that the American equivalent of assholes like you can treat them like shit freely. You can disagree with the way our governments use them all you want, I sure as hell do, but to treat the men and women of the military as anything less than the best of people is wrong. They do what you and I are unwilling to do. That makes them special.

If you don't like it, get your ass out there and do what they do. I bet you won't.

This is why we need a draft. A voluntary army is like only volunteers paying taxes.

The Sage of Main Street
03-12-2014, 05:02 PM
But itys your job to say that isnt it?

And yeah, I would not ever ever join a military and go to another mans nation and shoot people I do not know and have never met just to steal their resources for the western ruling class.

I am no merc.

And this is exactly what I am talking about. I am happy to risk my life for a worthy cause.

And yes, the likes of you should be ashamed if you support what they do. You must be a true coward. Worse than them

edit- like comics? Everyone should try em.. You are pretty obvious fake socialist.

If we had compulsory service, based on random lottery selection, then those people and their parents wouldn't vote against the kind of wars they don't like.

The Sage of Main Street
03-12-2014, 05:14 PM
Hey Germ, I have an example (among many similar examples) of where the civilian dirtbags thought they
were more important and more righteous than the enlisted man. This example also happened to me.

Returning soldiers from the Vietnam War were harrassed and spit on by numerous anti war/anti American
dirtbags. Most of these low life trash were called anti establishment hippy rejects from the peace not war
gang that later included your algores', your john kerrys', your draft dodging bill klinton and most every
democrap/liberal in congress at the time.
Most of these whining jackasses were and perhhaps are still living off of their parents largesse. I'm wondering if
you think the veterans or the current military personnel feel some type of superiority over civilians, after having
just read my example of how and why I see it happening the other way around--especially when you deal with
anti war pacifist leftists?

"Sticks and stones will hurt my bones, but names will never hurt me."

If you only care about the Left Wingers who openly insulted us and tolerate the Chickenhawks, then you haven't even grown up enough to learn the lesson of that's children's rhyme. I don't care if you got the Medal of Honor in Vietnam, if you excuse Right-Wingers who pulled strings to avoid active duty, then you have no honor.

You forgot to mention spoiled guillotine-fodder sissies like Bush having his Daddy get him into an outfit whose mission had been perverted into being a hideout for unpatriotic richboy cowards. You also forgot a selfish gutless bootlicking class-climber like Cheney, taking advantage of deferments designed for the future flunkies of the rich. I have one word to describe those who are just like Clinton, Bush, Cheney, and Kemp in the generations younger than those Boomer Duds. That word is:

TARGETS!

Peter1469
03-12-2014, 05:14 PM
This is why we need a draft. A voluntary army is like only volunteers paying taxes.

A draft army can't perform to the level we need our smaller, leaner military to perform. You draft when you need cannon fodder. :smiley:

Libhater
03-13-2014, 06:44 AM
If you only care about the Left Wingers who openly insulted us and tolerate the Chickenhawks, then you haven't even grown up enough to learn the lesson of that's children's rhyme. I don't care if you got the Medal of Honor in Vietnam, if you excuse Right-Wingers who pulled strings to avoid active duty, then you have no honor.

You forgot to mention spoiled guillotine-fodder sissies like Bush having his Daddy get him into an outfit whose mission had been perverted into being a hideout for unpatriotic richboy cowards. You also forgot a selfish gutless bootlicking class-climber like Cheney, taking advantage of deferments designed for the future flunkies of the rich. I have one word to describe those who are just like Clinton, Bush, Cheney, and Kemp in the generations younger than those Boomer Duds. That word is:

TARGETS!

I do believe Bush served 4 years in the military, which would have been 4 more years than that draft dodging anti military nitwit
bill klinton. The main theme of this post is the author's obvious distaste for our American military personnel. This post wasn't
geared to pinpoint specific examples of military lowlifes, rather, it was a direct diatribe against our collective military and their
supposed superiority feeling over civilians. I see you don't have anything good to say about our military as well. Could it be that
you're related to the anti American Germ?

nathanbforrest45
03-13-2014, 12:14 PM
I spent six years in the United States Navy. Most of us considered ourselves C.U.N.T.s (Civilians Under Naval Training). The only ones who really consider themselves better than civilians are the Marines (who think they are better than everybody) and the families of the career military. All of the sailors I knew and continue to know thought we were doing a job and nothing more.

You really are a distasteful little people if you want to know the truth. Nothing at all like the Aussies I met in Newcastle NSW. Those were nice folks.

Captain Obvious
03-13-2014, 01:20 PM
I spent six years in the United States Navy. Most of us considered ourselves C.U.N.T.s (Civilians Under Naval Training). The only ones who really consider themselves better than civilians are the Marines (who think they are better than everybody) and the families of the career military. All of the sailors I knew and continue to know thought we were doing a job and nothing more.

You really are a distasteful little people if you want to know the truth. Nothing at all like the Aussies I met in Newcastle NSW. Those were nice folks.

Be comforted in the fact that I always considered you a C U N T !

Maybe the biggest one on the forum.

The Xl
03-13-2014, 01:29 PM
I can't speak for Australian soldiers, but American soldiers are more important than American civilians, and I say this as a civilian. They put their lives on the line every day so that the American equivalent of assholes like you can treat them like shit freely. You can disagree with the way our governments use them all you want, I sure as hell do, but to treat the men and women of the military as anything less than the best of people is wrong. They do what you and I are unwilling to do. That makes them special.

If you don't like it, get your ass out there and do what they do. I bet you won't.
They don't fight for anything of the sort.

In any case, are they more important than the average citizen? No, their is no reason to consider them as such. Brave people who fought for what they believe or believed in? Sure, I'll give them that.

nathanbforrest45
03-14-2014, 10:54 AM
I was thinking about Australia and was wondering if they were worth our time and effort defending. If it were not for the United States in World War II the Aussies would all be wearing kimono's and working in rice paddies. But what exactly does Australia give to the world besides condescending little punks on the internet? What are we buying from them that we can't get from almost anywhere else in the world? Other than Nicole Kidman, Russel Crowe and Mel Gibson name any prominent Australians who have made an impact on the world.

If they didn't have kangaroos and Koala Bears (which they are killing off) there wouldn't even be a reason to visit the place.

Green Arrow
03-14-2014, 10:56 AM
I was thinking about Australia and was wondering if they were worth our time and effort defending. If it were not for the United States in World War II the Aussies would all be wearing kimono's and working in rice paddies. But what exactly does Australia give to the world besides condescending little punks on the internet? What are we buying from them that we can't get from almost anywhere else in the world? Other than Nicole Kidman, Russel Crowe and Mel Gibson name any prominent Australians who have made an impact on the world.

If they didn't have kangaroos and Koala Bears (which they are killing off) there wouldn't even be a reason to visit the place.

They house two very dear friends of mine and their families. Good enough reason to me to not want anything to happen to Australia.

nathanbforrest45
03-14-2014, 01:08 PM
They house two very dear friends of mine and their families. Good enough reason to me to not want anything to happen to Australia.

I have been to Newcastle NSW. The people were extremely friendly and kind. We were invited to sportsman's club in downtown Newcastle and was made to feel right at home (especially when we started cheering for the home team). A family invited several of us to their home for dinner and even had dates for us. A friend and I had gone to a restaurant for dinner the night before and didn't realize they closed as early as they did. They reopened the kitchen and made a meal just for us and then the owner invited us to his house to meet his wife and kids. It was great fun. But lately, that bloom seems to be off the rose with Australian posters attacking America, its history (not mentioning its role in attempting to eradicate the Aborigine of course), and its culture. Fuck em, I say, leave them to their kangaroos and fantasy heroes.

Germanicus
03-14-2014, 03:50 PM
I was thinking about Australia and was wondering if they were worth our time and effort defending. If it were not for the United States in World War II the Aussies would all be wearing kimono's and working in rice paddies. But what exactly does Australia give to the world besides condescending little punks on the internet? What are we buying from them that we can't get from almost anywhere else in the world? Other than Nicole Kidman, Russel Crowe and Mel Gibson name any prominent Australians who have made an impact on the world.

If they didn't have kangaroos and Koala Bears (which they are killing off) there wouldn't even be a reason to visit the place.

Wow, I am all up in your brain arent I buddy? Are you losing sleep?

Ever heard of Kokoda?

And call the CIA home and allow us to take our rightful position in the Asian Century. I dare you.

US military base, Chinese military base.... meh.

USA have peaked. China is the driver of the Asian Century and we are perfectly positioned. Punk.

Germanicus
03-14-2014, 03:53 PM
I have been to Newcastle NSW. The people were extremely friendly and kind. We were invited to sportsman's club in downtown Newcastle and was made to feel right at home (especially when we started cheering for the home team). A family invited several of us to their home for dinner and even had dates for us. A friend and I had gone to a restaurant for dinner the night before and didn't realize they closed as early as they did. They reopened the kitchen and made a meal just for us and then the owner invited us to his house to meet his wife and kids. It was great fun. But lately, that bloom seems to be off the rose with Australian posters attacking America, its history (not mentioning its role in attempting to eradicate the Aborigine of course), and its culture. Fuck em, I say, leave them to their kangaroos and fantasy heroes.

Mate, I have really discomfited you havent I?

Does it hurt that we Australians are number 1 ranked OECD nation now? And that America is a fucking loser? Does that hurt you in the belly?

edit- It does doesnt it? I can tell.

awwww. There there mate. We cant all be as well positioned heading in to the Asian century can we? Some nations like Australia are winners, others, like your nation is a fucking loser.

You dont want us to enjoy spitting on the dead body of America in the near future? Well there isnt a great deal you can do about that Im afraid.

Ethereal
03-14-2014, 03:59 PM
I don't think military veterans or members are better than civilians. The military exists to serve to them, if anything. And I prefer a citizen militia to a standing military. Every citizen a soldier.

Germanicus
03-14-2014, 04:00 PM
I was thinking about Australia and was wondering if they were worth our time and effort defending. If it were not for the United States in World War II the Aussies would all be wearing kimono's and working in rice paddies. But what exactly does Australia give to the world besides condescending little punks on the internet? What are we buying from them that we can't get from almost anywhere else in the world? Other than Nicole Kidman, Russel Crowe and Mel Gibson name any prominent Australians who have made an impact on the world.

If they didn't have kangaroos and Koala Bears (which they are killing off) there wouldn't even be a reason to visit the place.

The American Dream vs The Chinese Dream
— upwardly mobile adjective First Known Use of UPWARD MOBILITY 1949

'Upward Mobility' is genius capitalist nonsense. Basically the capitalist is saying that his empire will be unfair, but dont worry because if you play by our rules and work hard you can leave your horrid life behind and step over the lower classes that you came from and become one of the beautiful people just like us. Its the American Dream.

Its interesting that we do not see this new term until 1949. Interesting when you consider that WW2 ended in 1945. 'Upward Mobility' belongs to the modern clever sophisticated American brand of capitalist empire. America was also telling other nations that the empire would not be fair but as the American standard of living rises, so shall yours. Upward Mobility is a way of telling Africa that it will be exploited but if it played by the rules, things would get better. Upward Mobility made Americans/Westerners feel less guilty about the inequity that the American Empire created and maintained. Citizens could comfort themselves with the knowledge that there was a social order among nations and the west was on top. The lesser nations just had to follow the leader and everything would work out fine for those helpless Africans. We could go on wearing the scarlet livery of the Iron Heel guilt free.

So 'Upward Mobility' is some kind of capitalist doublespeak for 'exploitation is good'. Now if you consider that the 'American dream' is basically the same thing as 'Upward Mobility' you see that the American Dream translates to 'exploitation is good'. Now thats pretty crazy.

Now think about where the term 'american dream' comes from. It was first written by writer and historian James Truslow Adams. In line with modern capitalist propaganda, the phrase presented to the masses has been twisted to mean the opposite of what Adams intended.

"It is not a dream of motor cars and high wages merely, but a dream of social order in which each man and each woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately capable, and be recognized by others for what they are, regardless of the fortuitous circumstances of birth or position." - James Truslow Adams

The use of 'the American Dream' as a propaganda term coincides nicely with the invention of the capitalist doublespeak propaganda term 'upward mobility'. It is easy to forget that before WW2 America was not the superpower that they have been in recent times. The use of 'the American Dream' is post WW2.

I like that Xi Jinping is promoting The Chinese Dream to the world. The Chinese Government have an advanced sense of humour.

The Chinese Dream is honest and realistic. The Chinese Dream is about working together to create a better future for all. The Chinese Dream is about cooperation. The Chinese Dream is not about competition and stepping over others. The Chinese Dream is about everyone pulling in the same direction. The Chinese Dream is about dignity for all. The Chinese Dream is the original dream of James Truslow Adams. The Chinese Dream is the true American Dream.

The Chinese Dream is something that all people can believe in. Xi Jinping has said "We must make persistent efforts, press ahead with indomitable will, continue to push forward the great cause of socialism with Chinese characteristics, and strive to achieve the Chinese dream of great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation," To realize the "Chinese dream," China must take the Chinese way, he said. People of all nationalities must gain confidence in the theory, the road and the system of socialism with Chinese characteristics, and forge valiantly and unswervingly ahead along the right road, Xi said.

The Wash
03-14-2014, 04:00 PM
I don't think military veterans or members are better than civilians. The military exists to serve to them, if anything. And I prefer a citizen militia to a standing military. Every citizen a soldier.

I don't think we're better than civilians as far as God's eyes go. I think I'm better than civilians at handling myself, however.

Germanicus
03-14-2014, 04:03 PM
I was thinking about Australia and was wondering if they were worth our time and effort defending. If it were not for the United States in World War II the Aussies would all be wearing kimono's and working in rice paddies. But what exactly does Australia give to the world besides condescending little punks on the internet? What are we buying from them that we can't get from almost anywhere else in the world? Other than Nicole Kidman, Russel Crowe and Mel Gibson name any prominent Australians who have made an impact on the world.

If they didn't have kangaroos and Koala Bears (which they are killing off) there wouldn't even be a reason to visit the place.

Australia named worlds happiest OECD nation again. Take that Sweden.
Australia, the only major developed nation to avoid the 2009 worldwide recession, remains at the top of the OECD index even as the mining boom powering economic growth crests and the government forecasts unemployment will rise to 5.75 per cent by June 2014, from 5.5 per cent last month.
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“Australia performs exceptionally well in measures of well-being, as shown by the fact that it ranks among the top countries in a large number of topics in the Better Life Index,” the OECD said.
The average household net-adjusted disposable income was $US28,884 a year, well above the OECD average of $US23,047. "Money, while it cannot buy happiness, is an important means to achieving higher living standards," the OECD noted.


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As we enter the Asian Century the nation of Australia is the most well positioned of all OECD nations. The GFC was a happy time for Australians because former PM K Rudd gave everyone a thousand dollar 'stimulus'. It is no secret that China deserves much of the credit for the strong Australian economy in recent times. Australian Treasurer Wayne Swan was named the Euromoney Finance Minister of the Year in 2011. Mr Swan received the award for his 'careful stewardship of Australia's finances and economic performance both during and after the global financial crisis'. It was also claimed that Mr Wayne Swan kept Australia from falling into recession during and after the GFC and that he instead turned the Australian economy into the best performing 'developed market' economy.

Australian Treasurer Wayne Swan had very little to do with the strength of the Australian economy during and after the global economic crisis. The main reason that Australia not only survived the GFC but actually got a bump in world standing was China. China should get an award. China is the reason that Australia continues to enjoy a strong economy while other 'western nations' are having to endure austerity and tax increases as they search for solutions for their doomed and exhausted economies.

They call Australia "the lucky country" because we have great weather and beaches amongst other things. Lately the luckiest thing about Australia is that we are fortunate enough to be one of China's neighbours. Australian's owe China a great deal. Australia is an export economy and China accounts for one third of all Australian exports. Australia needs China. Australia is lucky to have a friend in China. It is not just exports that make China important to Australias future. The Australian Government's recent 'white paper' titled The Asian Century leaves no doubt that even they can see that our relationship with China will be our most important for the next one hundred years.

The last Australian Treasurer to be awarded the Euromoney Finance Minister of the Year was Paul Keating in 1984. Paul Keating went on to become Australia's Prime Minister in the early ninties. As Prime Minister Paul Keating did a great deal to strengthen Australia's relationship with Asia and to create conditions that were more conducive to doing business with nations like Japan and China.

Keating was one of the first to comprehend just how important China is and will continue to be to Australia. In a 2012 speech Mr Keating said “When we Australians were running around North Asia in the early 1990s setting up APEC [Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation] and the APEC Leaders’ Meeting, we were doing it not to become foreign policy busybodies – we were doing it because we saw it all coming,” This is a clear criticism of his successors and the United States. It is important that Australian leaders continue in the tradition of Paul Keating and show China the respect that they deserve. The future of Australia depends on it. The American approach to diplomacy is infantile. In the same 2012 speech Keating made a very important point and one that Australians and all westerners should consider when he said “The seemingly perpetual invocation of this human rights mantra attributes no moral value to the scale and quality of the Chinese achievement,”

Germanicus
03-14-2014, 04:05 PM
I was thinking about Australia and was wondering if they were worth our time and effort defending. If it were not for the United States in World War II the Aussies would all be wearing kimono's and working in rice paddies. But what exactly does Australia give to the world besides condescending little punks on the internet? What are we buying from them that we can't get from almost anywhere else in the world? Other than Nicole Kidman, Russel Crowe and Mel Gibson name any prominent Australians who have made an impact on the world.

If they didn't have kangaroos and Koala Bears (which they are killing off) there wouldn't even be a reason to visit the place.

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/wh4fbca56c.jpg

Australia is the world’s happiest nation, ahead of Norway and the United States, according to a survey by the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD). (Photo: IBTimes Pictures)Austaralia is world's happiest nation, according to OECD Better Life Index Enlarge (Photo: IBTimes Pictures) Austaralia is world's happiest nation, according to OECD Better Life Index Follow IBTimes UK Google Plus Related Articles IMF's Christine Lagarde tells UK: 'Growth Too Slow' [NEWS VIDEO] In its annual Better Life Index, the Paris-based group ranked Australia as top among industrialised nations based on criteria such as jobs, income and health. The OECD survey rated its 34 member countries on categories such as housing, jobs, education, health, environment and work-life balance, giving equal weight to all 11 categories. Though no nation came first in all categories, it is the cumulative ranking that catapulted Australia to first position. Norway and the US are second and third respectively. Read more: www.ibtimes.co.uk... (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/344223/20120523/australia-world-s-happiest-nation-oecd-better.htm#ixzz1vc9g4LWx)
www.ibtimes.co.uk... (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/344223/20120523/australia-world-s-happiest-nation-oecd-better.htm)

So its official. Australia is the greatest nation to live in on the earth. Take that Norway. I was surprised to see that the United States was ranked third. I thought they would be way down the list.

Australia is the land of the gold plated AAA Credit Rating. The land of the Resources Boom. The land of low unemployment. The land that shrugged off the GFC. Australia is in the perfect position geographically as the power shifts to the East. Australia is by far in the best position to face the future compared to the other OECD Nations

The biggest threat to Australia is the Federal Government that is intent on pandering to the United States Government despite the fact that Australias future is with China and not the United States.
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ac4fbca5b7.jpg

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread843379/pg1

edit- I have been conditioning your children and lunatics to soften the blow. You will grow to accept it Nathanbforrest. In time. Until then suck it up buddy. Try to walk it off mate. Think happy thoughts. Will you try? For me? Im worried about you mate.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AESevTJL1-k

Ethereal
03-14-2014, 04:11 PM
I don't think we're better than civilians as far as God's eyes go. I think I'm better than civilians at handling myself, however.

Well, each of us has our own strengths and weaknesses. That is why we have to work together...

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu20/KEG1984/428f36dc6d046d016d21c5772c58493d_zps2e44b509.jpg

Germanicus
03-14-2014, 04:21 PM
I was thinking about Australia and was wondering if they were worth our time and effort defending. If it were not for the United States in World War II the Aussies would all be wearing kimono's and working in rice paddies. But what exactly does Australia give to the world besides condescending little punks on the internet? What are we buying from them that we can't get from almost anywhere else in the world? Other than Nicole Kidman, Russel Crowe and Mel Gibson name any prominent Australians who have made an impact on the world.

If they didn't have kangaroos and Koala Bears (which they are killing off) there wouldn't even be a reason to visit the place.

New Dawn Breaks.
The Asian Century has begun.


It is now more than obvious to all that are paying attention that the great nation of China is true power of the global community. The United States of America will never ever regain their status as the so-called "leader of the free world". The United States can no longer claim to be "the greatest nation in the world". It is clear that the USA has peaked and is now on the downswing.

The contrast between the worlds two superpowers could not be more stark today. Today we see the mighty nation of China launching the new Free Trade Zone in Shanghai on the same day that Americans struggle to find a sensible way to pay the day to day costs of running the US Government. The economic reforms have begun and the great rejuvantion of China is picking up steam at the exact time we see the USA is falling apart at the seams and on the brink of total collapse.

Even if a US Government Shutdown is avoided by another nonsense fake 'brinkmanship' last minute agreement the damage is done. The world is sick of the constant games played in Washington. The world is sick of waiting for the USA to come up with a Federal Budget. The world is sick of waiting for Obama and the US Government to address the structural debt problems of the United States.

The US Government has been operating without a Federal Budget now since 2009. In recent days we saw US Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew issue a warning to US politicians that the US Debt Ceiling must again be raised because Lew only had $30 billion left to pay the bills of the United States for that month and he said the expenses of the US Government can be as high as $60 billion per month.

I think it is long overdue for the Global Community to issue the US Government with a real warning in relation to the fact that the selfish and irresponsible behaviour of the US Government is again risking the health of the World Economy. If a US Government Shutdown does occur then there is real risk of the US Federal Reserve losing control of US interest rates and if this occurs then hyperinflation will be a genuine risk after the endless QE that USA has been surviving on.

In the four long years that the USA has been operating without a Federal Budget Obama has almost doubled the National Debt of the USA which now sits at an unpayable $17 trillion dollars. On top of the $17 trillion Nationa Debt that is bringing the USA down they also need to find a way to pay for Unfunded Liabilities which is an unspeakable number, higher than the official $17 trillion National Debt.

Unfunded Liablities is what America calls it when they steal money that has been allocated for the future for things like pensions and reforms. The US Government steals these allocated funds and uses them to pay for current expenses so it is a sneaky way for them to borrow from themselves. The USA needs to borrow from future funds due to the fact that the demand for US debt continues to dry up. The USA needs to pay back this unspeakable amount of Unfunded Liabilities to keep promises made by past US politicians but with each passing day it looks more and more certain that Unfunded Liablities will never be paid back.

The lack of interest in US debt is also one of the main reasons the USA needed to print seemingly endless piles of free money to be used for backdoor bailouts of US corporations and Banks. First the free money printing was given the American style name of 'Operation Twist'. Operation Twist did not work and the USA were unable to twist out of their endless problems so the US Federal Reseve embarked on the selfish manipulation of the USD known as Quantitative Easing ( QE ). The QE is seemingly endless because if the USA stops giving their banks and corporations free money at our expense they are certain to collapse within days.

The most disturbing thing about the USA QE is the fact that QE has caused the nation to essentaily default on their trusting creditors. The largest owner of US Debt is China and the hard working people of China are seeing their wealth eroded day by day. The USA claims they will stop the unlimted QE at some stage but no date has been set as they stall for some other futile short term solution to their economic disease.

America was the sole superpower since WW2 until the recent rise of the Chinese giant. Now that the Asian Century has begun it is very clear that the USA is sole military superpower but apart from the exceptional US military spending the United States is no sole superpower. China is the now the most powerful all-round superpower and the CPC have only just begun. China is just getting started.

I think that the world is a much better and safer place with China on top and I am very happy for China. I agree with former Aussie PM Julia Gillard who said in a speech in China that she wanted to thank China and the Chinese people for all their hard work that has made the Asian Century a reality. As a nobody I would aslo like to thank China for all their hard work that has made the Asia Pacific the most dynamic region in the entire world. We all owe the hard working nation of China for the hard work they have been doing.

I think it is time for the Global Community to do more to help China and ensure that China is not doing all the work. There is no need for China to carry us and break their backs.

I have been waiting a while now for the Asian Century to begin. I am happy it is here.

I see a world with China at the front as a safer and fairer world for all of us.

Without the rock solid stability of the CPC the Americans and the International Community would be in a great deal more trouble than they are right now.

Thank god for China.



edit- The CPC loved that one. (:

Germanicus
03-14-2014, 04:27 PM
I was thinking about Australia and was wondering if they were worth our time and effort defending. If it were not for the United States in World War II the Aussies would all be wearing kimono's and working in rice paddies. But what exactly does Australia give to the world besides condescending little punks on the internet? What are we buying from them that we can't get from almost anywhere else in the world? Other than Nicole Kidman, Russel Crowe and Mel Gibson name any prominent Australians who have made an impact on the world.

If they didn't have kangaroos and Koala Bears (which they are killing off) there wouldn't even be a reason to visit the place.

Australia needs a Chinese Dream (http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/thread-860140-1-1.html)



The Federal Budget has just been released in Australia. It is always a very selfish time in Australia when a budget is released because all the capitalist westerner is interested in is themselves. Our media encourages this selfish mentality by running headlines like -Whats In It For Me?. Nobody ever seems to care what is fair or what is good for the nation of Australia. All anyone is encouraged to care about at budget time is what they are getting out of it.

I wish I lived in China where people are more interested in the common good. In China I see calm and sensible 5 year plans. In Australia and the west I see wild and outlandish claims and false promises. It is not surprising that western politician rarely manage to keep their word and make good on their claims and promises.

I blame America for this cold and destructive form of governance. The 'American Dream' is a selfish dream. The American Dream makes people and nations dig their own graves. The American Dream is not sustainable. The American Dream ensures that there are some winners but always many losers.

It wasnt so long ago that Australia was more like China. Australia was very close to being State Capitalist in the 80's. The Australian Government owned all important utilities and managed them in the interest of the common good. Since the 80's we have been slowly Americanized.

Australia must wake up from the American Fantasy and start living the Chinese Dream. Australian culture is more in line with China than America. In Australia we like everyone to have "fair go". Until recently the Australian hero was the "Aussie Battler" . The "Aussie Battler" is the common man.

The Aussie Dream has always been much closer to The Chinese Dream in the past. Australia has lost its way. Budget time is always a reminder of how selfish and Americanized we have become. Australia needs to go back to State Capitalism and follow the lead of the most successful economy China. To follow America into economic ruin is crazy.

The real American Dream is to run up $17 trillion dollars in debt that you never intend to ever pay. And that is not to mention the unspeakable figure that the American Government owes itself in Unfunded Liabilities. America doesnt even bother making a budget most of the time because they know they they never pay their bills anyway. All America ever does is live on credit and rack up more and more debt that will never be paid for. America can do this because they maintain the Reserve Currency and a military that tries to protect the petrodolllar system. The rest of us must actually pay our bills.

Even America cannot sustain the American Dream with all of its unfair advantage. It is only a matter of time before all that ever increasing National Debt destroys the Americans entire way of life. Australia and the rest of the west must look to China and the Chinese Dream if we seek prosperity for all. Westerners must learn that what is good for the nation and fair is good for all. Westerners must stop being so selfish and American.

The Chinese Dream is a dream of prosperity for all. This is sustainabe, sensible and fair. The American Dream is selfish and unsustainable fantasy.

Related:

Chinese dream VS. American dream (http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=839035&highlight=Chinese%2Bdream)

What’s your 'Chinese dream'?
(http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=830766&highlight=chinese%2Bdream)
My Vision of Chinese Dream "Chinese PC Revolution" in Mainland

Elyse-Ameican Beijinger persue her Chinese dream (http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=810980&highlight=chinese%2Bdream)

Andrea Pasinetti and his Chinese dream (http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=860867&highlight=chinese%2Bdream)

The Chinese Dream
(http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=564566&highlight=chinese%2Bdream)
My “Chinese Dream” (http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=837907&highlight=chinese%2Bdream)

World also needs ‘Chinese Dream’ (http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/thread-839035-1-1.html)

What is the Chinese Dream (http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=749548&highlight=chinese%2Bdream)

Chinese Dream - Africans in Guangzhou (http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=755529&highlight=chinese%2Bdream)

Top 10 Dreams of Chinese People (http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=864763&highlight=chinese%2Bdream)

EDIT- Wow nathan, would you believe that almost 30000 people read that Australia Needs a Chinese Dream thread? Thats a lot more than read my stuff on this site.

edit- and waht was that nathan? fuck us? Did you say fuck Australia?

Things have changed punk. And it is time for you to learn your place and to learn some manners. Dont you think?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMSTIePQri0&feature=kp

Is that your boat Nathan? Will you be able to afford to keep a boat after we unseat the USD and collapse your entire economy? You reckon?

Learn some manners Nathan. Learn some respect for your superiors. We cant all be exceptional Australians to be sure but there is no need to get cranky about it. I think you need to settle down mate. And accept that Australians are the greatest.

Please try not to be so jealous of Australian exceptionalism nathan. You are embarrassing yourself mate.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOQKzvXKW5Q

I AM THE BUSH AND I AM KOALA! WE ARE ONE GO HAND IN HAND! I AM THE BUSH LIKE BANJO AND HENRY! ITS IN MY BLOOD! GONNA MAKE A STAND!

(:

waltky
06-01-2016, 04:56 AM
Homes for Vets...
:cool2:
Advocates Rally to Stop Senate Plan to Cut Military Housing Allowance
Jun 01, 2016 | Military advocates are rallying to stop a proposal in the U.S. Senate to reduce military housing allowances.


The Senate Armed Services Committee's version of the 2017 National Defense Authorization Act, which sets policy and spending targets for the fiscal year beginning Oct. 1, would curb the military's Basic Allowance for Housing, or BAH, for new entrants beginning in 2018 by only covering what they actually pay in rent. It would also reduce the combined value of the benefit received by military couples or roommates. "We're not in favor of the language in there," Michael Barron, deputy director of government relations at the Military Officers Association of America, an advocacy group based in Arlington, Virginia, told Military.com. "We've got some major concerns with it."

The Senate panel led by Sen. John McCain, a Republican from Arizona, wants the monthly Basic Allowance for Housing -- which varies by paygrade, dependent status and region in the U.S. -- to be more like the Overseas Housing Allowance -- which covers only housing expenses. Section 604 of the Bill S.2943 is titled, "Reform of Basic Allowance for Housing." Beginning Jan. 1, 2018, the legislation would set the allowance for new entrants at "the actual monthly cost of housing" or an amount "based on the costs of adequate housing" for each military housing area, according to a copy of the legislation. It also states two or more service members occupying the same housing would split the allowance.


http://images.military.com/media/money/homes/house-money-cash-600.jpg

It's unclear whether the full chamber will approve the language when it votes on the defense authorization bill at a later date. Republican Sens. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Susan Collins of Maine have already introduced amendments to strike the provision. The House didn't include similar language in its version of the bill and the Defense Department hasn't requested the change. In addition, Congress is already supporting a Pentagon plan to slow the growth of Basic Allowance for Housing over five years so service members on average pay 2 percent of their housing costs this year, 3 percent in 2017, 4 percent in 2018 and 5 percent in 2019 and thereafter. Troops won't see a modification in the allowance until they change duty stations. Senators argue the housing allowance has become "bloated and ripe for abuse" and note the change could save an estimated $200 million, according to an article by Leo Shane III, a reporter for the Military Times newspapers who first reported the proposal.

Barron said the allowance is part of regular military compensation designed to retain and recruit talented people into the military. He also noted in the 1990s troops paid roughly 15 percent of their housing allowance out of pocket and that lawmakers in Congress had "done a lot of work" over the past decade to reduce that expense. "We really don't think they should be trying to make these reductions for new entrants coming in. We just don't think it's the right thing to do," he said. "You're already asking a service member to pay more for retirement savings," he added, referring to the recent overhaul of the military retirement system that incorporated a 401(k)-style plan. "You're asking them also now to pay more for housing."

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/06/01/advocates-rally-stop-senate-plan-cut-military-housing-allowance.html