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Cigar
04-14-2014, 07:25 PM
There’s a meme that’s been floating around for some time that explains why this is a problem for white people:

http://proudtobeafilthyliberalscum.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/minority.jpg

Despite the widespread protests that we’re a post-racial society, only the most oblivious white people don’t know what an utter crock of shit that is. White people have it good in America, even if they’re dirt poor, compared to blacks and Latinos in identical situations. They know it, you know it and Republicans sure as hell know it. Not for nothing, they base their entire political strategy on it.

So yeah, let’s make a note of this under “Shit Everyone Knows.” The less power white people hold in this country, the more afraid they get. When they even admit that they’re afraid of being a minority, they usually pretend that whites will be persecuted and punished for centuries of abuse. The reality, though, is that that they will lose all of their unearned privilege and that terrifies far too many of them. White people like to think that they succeed due to how inherently awesome they are. This is true across the political spectrum but most notable among conservatives and libertarians. They are absolutely convinced of their own racial superiority and it drips from everything they say and do.

News flash! If you’re afraid of an even playing field, you’re not special and you never were. You just had the luck to be born with the right color skin. As Chris Rock so perfectly explained:There ain’t a white man in this room that would change places with me. And I’m rich! :rofl:


Suck it up Caucasians.

You want to get ahead in life?

Stop relying on your skin to get by and stop blaming everyone else for wanting what was handed to you on a silver platter.

http://proudtobeafilthyliberalscum.com/2014/04/13/white-people-afraid-becoming-minority-sht-sherlock/


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cD6A1FRcnXY/SX0F8FN5pKI/AAAAAAAAAlg/y0-V5Zox258/s400/its+not+fair.jpg

Peter1469
04-14-2014, 07:28 PM
If Dr. King's view of what we should think of each other were embraced, whites would have nothing to fear about a minority status.

Mister D
04-14-2014, 07:30 PM
Toby is getting increasingly desperate these days. lol

Alyosha
04-14-2014, 07:31 PM
Um, yeh, the thought keeps me up at night...:rollseyes:

Alyosha
04-14-2014, 07:33 PM
Seriously though, who comes up with this shit? No one in my generation and I doubt the one below me actually gives a crap. We are all thinking Michael Ealy and Idris Elba were the beast.

GrassrootsConservative
04-14-2014, 07:34 PM
"White people"?

Shut the hell up you racist bigot progressive.

We're just as equal as everyone else.

Cigar
04-14-2014, 07:36 PM
Um, yeh, the thought keeps me up at night...:rollseyes:

Porn :grin:

Alyosha
04-14-2014, 07:37 PM
Porn :grin:

With Michael Ealy in it?

http://static.ebony.com/eyes_page-bg_16200.jpg

Cigar
04-14-2014, 07:38 PM
Seriously though, who comes up with this shit? No one in my generation and I doubt the one below me actually gives a crap. We are all thinking Michael Ealy and Idris Elba were the beast.

Is that you Bill Bill O'Rieley :laugh:

Alyosha
04-14-2014, 07:38 PM
Is that you Bill Bill O'Rieley :laugh:

Is he gay for Michael Ealy?

Cigar
04-14-2014, 07:39 PM
With Michael Ealy in it?



Getting the Jungle Fervor :laugh:

http://thumbs.anyclip.com/tOpQWhoIK/tmb_2850_480.jpg

Alyosha
04-14-2014, 07:42 PM
Getting the Jungle Fervor :laugh:

http://thumbs.anyclip.com/tOpQWhoIK/tmb_2850_480.jpg


Getting? I've liked him since the first Barbershop.

Spectre
04-14-2014, 07:43 PM
If I were dictator I'd force all the races to intermarry with each other so that in a generation or two the entire question of race would be of no importance whatsoever.

And if some are complaining that whites are diminishing, whose fault is that?

Upwardly-mobile, middle-class whites wanted their stupid high-tech toys, women wanted careers rather than families, expensive vacations and $8. Starbucks coffees every day, and rare single-malt scotches...sorry, no time or money for children, we want to be eternal adolescents and have fun all the time. Wheeeee!!!!

And NOW they complain about becoming 'minorities'?

No children=impending minority status.

The math is simple and ineluctable.

Refugee
04-14-2014, 07:43 PM
Well, you know, it might be something to do with the fact that western civilization was created in the west, not by Malcom X and black power activists? Local 'tribal elders' and 'community leader spokespersons' are fine, but they haven't brought much to the table in terms of world advancement. Perhaps we just want to keep it this way?

Ethereal
04-14-2014, 08:08 PM
What a bunch of racist, bigoted trash.

Refugee
04-14-2014, 08:13 PM
It’s a bit of a mystery why people flock to western shores; presumably for the western values and opportunities it has? Meanwhile, the west is busily seeking to make itself in the image of those places they’ve come from.

Yo bro, gimee five. We’re all equal now!:danceshout:

Quiz.
Which one is Fresno, California and which Soweto, S. Africa?

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Cigar
04-14-2014, 08:14 PM
If I were dictator I'd force all the races to intermarry with each other so that in a generation or two the entire question of race would be of no importance whatsoever.

And if some are complaining that whites are diminishing, whose fault is that?

Upwardly-mobile, middle-class whites wanted their stupid high-tech toys, women wanted careers rather than families, expensive vacations and $8. Starbucks coffees every day, and rare single-malt scotches...sorry, no time or money for children, we want to be eternal adolescents and have fun all the time. Wheeeee!!!!

And NOW they complain about becoming 'minorities'?

No children=impending minority status.

The math is simple and ineluctable.

Why do you have to get Married :laugh:

Max Rockatansky
04-14-2014, 08:17 PM
Um, yeh, the thought keeps me up at night...:rollseyes:

Agreed. How ironic is it for someone to accuse others of racism when they start threads with racist titles like "White People Afraid Of Becoming A Minority? No Sh!t, Sherlock!"

Kalkin
04-14-2014, 08:18 PM
As a superior intellect, I've been a minority all my life. The OP is obviously not part of my same minority group.

Cigar
04-14-2014, 08:19 PM
It’s a bit of a mystery why people flock to western shores; presumably for the western values and opportunities it has? Meanwhile, the west is busily seeking to make itself in the image of those places they’ve come from.

Yo bro, gimee five. We’re all equal now!:danceshout:

Quiz.
Which one is Fresno, California and which Soweto, S. Africa?

6804 6803


No you guess ... :danceshout:


http://www.weeville.com/Redneck%20Home%20Schooling.jpg

http://crappyshack.com/Images/redneckweek/redneckcamper.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-elmzW8EeGkQ/Tf9Ghxa_W5I/AAAAAAAAM28/eeOxPDMdPTY/s1600/Redneck-Mobile-Home.jpg

http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.608054982818136284&pid=1.7

Ethereal
04-14-2014, 08:19 PM
I won't speak for or to conservatives, but why would you associate libertarians with racism towards racial minorities when libertarians are the biggest defenders of racial minorities against the war on drugs and sex workers, which disproportionately and negatively impacts the black community? It's almost like Democrats and race pimps like the OP have no idea what libertarians are really about and just make it up as they go along. Pretty sad when you have to make up disgusting lies about people in order to justify your own bigoted and racist viewpoints.

Captain Obvious
04-14-2014, 08:20 PM
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Cigar
04-14-2014, 08:20 PM
As a superior intellect, I've been a minority all my life. The OP is obviously not part of my same minority group.

That's what I like best about this Forum ... you guys can dish it out, but that thin skin of yours can't take it. :laugh:

Alyosha
04-14-2014, 08:21 PM
I won't speak for or to conservatives, but why would you associate libertarians with racism towards racial minorities when libertarians are the biggest defenders of racial minorities against the war on drugs and sex workers, which disproportionately and negatively impacts the black community? It's almost like Democrats and race pimps like the OP have no idea what libertarians are really about and just make it up as they go along. Pretty sad when you have to make up disgusting lies about people in order to justify your own bigoted and racist viewpoints.

Because they think libertarians are conservatives.

Kalkin
04-14-2014, 08:23 PM
That's what I like best about this Forum ... you guys can dish it out, but that thin skin of yours can't take it. :laugh:
You prove my point with your non-response. All good, dude, the world needs laborers. ;)

Bob
04-14-2014, 08:23 PM
Despite the widespread protests that we’re a post-racial society, only the most oblivious white people don’t know what an utter crock of shit that is. White people have it good in America, even if they’re dirt poor, compared to blacks and Latinos in identical situations. They know it, you know it and Republicans sure as hell know it. Not for nothing, they base their entire political strategy on it.

I see.

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Max Rockatansky
04-14-2014, 08:24 PM
With Michael Ealy in it?

http://static.ebony.com/eyes_page-bg_16200.jpg

Too bad "Almost Human" is on the bubble for being canceled. Those interested in it or other shows can vote here: http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2014/04/02/save-our-shows-usa-today-poll/7211961/

Ethereal
04-14-2014, 08:25 PM
Because they think libertarians are conservatives.

Well, I can say I'm not worried about racial demography, one way or the other. I'm more worried about lovers of liberty becoming an even smaller minority than they already are, and that problem cuts across imaginary racial lines. And I wouldn't trade places with Chris Rock because he's not as good looking as I am, not because he's black. I would be Denzel Washington, though.

Cigar
04-14-2014, 08:27 PM
Well, I can say I'm not worried about racial demography, one way or the other. I'm more worried about lovers of liberty becoming an even smaller minority than they already are, and that problem cuts across imaginary racial lines. And I wouldn't trade places with Chris Rock because he's not as good looking as I am, not because he's black. I would be Denzel Washington, though.

SO ... tell me, what Liberty has been taken from you? :laugh:

sachem
04-14-2014, 08:27 PM
Payback's a bitch. Fortunately, I'll be dead by then.

Alyosha
04-14-2014, 08:28 PM
Well, I can say I'm not worried about racial demography, one way or the other. I'm more worried about lovers of liberty becoming an even smaller minority than they already are, and that problem cuts across imaginary racial lines. And I wouldn't trade places with Chris Rock because he's not as good looking as I am, not because he's black. I would be Denzel Washington, though.

I think you're as attractive as Denzel. :wink:

Max Rockatansky
04-14-2014, 08:28 PM
Payback's a bitch. Fortunately, I'll be dead by then.
Being dead is a plus in that case. Party on!

Alyosha
04-14-2014, 08:29 PM
SO ... tell me, what Liberty has been taken from you? :laugh:

1. The right to freely congregate --ask the ACLU what they think of "Free Speech Zones"
2. The right to be secure in your home, your papers, and your persons
3. The right to bear arms uninfringed
4. The right to privacy

I can go on but I've probably done so in another thread.

keymanjim
04-14-2014, 08:33 PM
When we do, can we get paid by the government to sit at home and breed like flies?

Ethereal
04-14-2014, 08:36 PM
SO ... tell me, what Liberty has been taken from you? :laugh:

The liberty not to be spied on; the liberty to keep the product of my labor; the liberty to choose what goes into my body; and that's just for starters.

Ethereal
04-14-2014, 08:39 PM
I think you're as attractive as Denzel. :wink:

Yea but he's got lots of money too.

Refugee
04-14-2014, 08:45 PM
That's what I like best about this Forum ... you guys can dish it out, but that thin skin of yours can't take it. :laugh:

We propose that in conclusion; one’s birthright and by natural selection, obvious superiority is somehow responsible for the intellectual prowess which circumstances produce. Rising above the common herd by virtue of one’s birthright, one is able to obtain a rather different view of humanity and its banal utterings.


6811


:smiley_ROFLMAO:

zelmo1234
04-14-2014, 09:02 PM
Not only do I not know of a white person that is worried about this? I don't even know a white person that thinks about it?

Refugee
04-14-2014, 09:53 PM
Not only do I not know of a white person that is worried about this? I don't even know a white person that thinks about it?

Big problem in the UK and in Europe. White flight is officially acknowledged, there is mass emigration and it's predicted that by mid-century whites will be a minority. Does it matter? The problem is that mass immigration changes culture, puts a huge strain on the infrastructure and predictably, has produced high crime rates and ghettoization. America tries to assimilate, unlike Europe, where all cultures have equal standing. Diversity hasn't worked in the UK or Europe.

Dr. Who
04-14-2014, 10:04 PM
That's what I like best about this Forum ... you guys can dish it out, but that thin skin of yours can't take it. :laugh:

What's not unique about this forum is the generalization that goes on.

The Xl
04-14-2014, 10:19 PM
No, not really, Cigar. Only racists like you, on both sides, ponder shit like this.

Cthulhu
04-14-2014, 11:22 PM
If I were dictator I'd force all the races to intermarry with each other so that in a generation or two the entire question of race would be of no importance whatsoever.

*Note to self: Do not let Spectre become a dictator with absolute power.

GrassrootsConservative
04-14-2014, 11:36 PM
It's a good thing he's Conservative and not Liberal like actual dictators.

Bob
04-14-2014, 11:41 PM
I won't speak for or to conservatives, but why would you associate libertarians with racism towards racial minorities when libertarians are the biggest defenders of racial minorities against the war on drugs and sex workers, which disproportionately and negatively impacts the black community? It's almost like Democrats and race pimps like the OP have no idea what libertarians are really about and just make it up as they go along. Pretty sad when you have to make up disgusting lies about people in order to justify your own bigoted and racist viewpoints.

Surely by this time, you are not surprised?

See, the tactics of Democrats is to openly lie expecting us to believe it.

Refugee
04-15-2014, 04:29 AM
As a superior intellect, I've been a minority all my life. The OP is obviously not part of my same minority group.

That makes two of us. We could start an intellectual superiority group on the group’s forum and charge people to join. No one’s going to pay and so we’ll be able to prove we’re superior by lack of members. Good thinking. :laugh:

zelmo1234
04-15-2014, 05:03 AM
Well now that this has been brought up! Lets think about this!

If whites are the minority. That means that they will have to hire the white person over the person of color to keep their affirmative action quota's in tact!

I will get a tax deduction if I move into certain areas. And I qualify for special treatment in home and business loans

Whites will be able to get into public collages and universities with lower grades and test scores.

And if anyone ever disagrees with us for any reason at all we will be able to call them a racist and end the discussion!

Not really seeing a down side here!

Ravi
04-15-2014, 06:02 AM
There’s a meme that’s been floating around for some time that explains why this is a problem for white people:

http://proudtobeafilthyliberalscum.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/minority.jpg

Despite the widespread protests that we’re a post-racial society, only the most oblivious white people don’t know what an utter crock of shit that is. White people have it good in America, even if they’re dirt poor, compared to blacks and Latinos in identical situations. They know it, you know it and Republicans sure as hell know it. Not for nothing, they base their entire political strategy on it.

So yeah, let’s make a note of this under “Shit Everyone Knows.” The less power white people hold in this country, the more afraid they get. When they even admit that they’re afraid of being a minority, they usually pretend that whites will be persecuted and punished for centuries of abuse. The reality, though, is that that they will lose all of their unearned privilege and that terrifies far too many of them. White people like to think that they succeed due to how inherently awesome they are. This is true across the political spectrum but most notable among conservatives and libertarians. They are absolutely convinced of their own racial superiority and it drips from everything they say and do.

News flash! If you’re afraid of an even playing field, you’re not special and you never were. You just had the luck to be born with the right color skin. As Chris Rock so perfectly explained:There ain’t a white man in this room that would change places with me. And I’m rich! :rofl:


Suck it up Caucasians.

You want to get ahead in life?

Stop relying on your skin to get by and stop blaming everyone else for wanting what was handed to you on a silver platter.

http://proudtobeafilthyliberalscum.com/2014/04/13/white-people-afraid-becoming-minority-sht-sherlock/


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cD6A1FRcnXY/SX0F8FN5pKI/AAAAAAAAAlg/y0-V5Zox258/s400/its+not+fair.jpg
Not all white people fear this. Some do, some of them post here: Libhater, Akula, Mr. D....

1751_Texan
04-15-2014, 06:10 AM
If Dr. King's view of what we should think of each other were embraced, whites would have nothing to fear about a minority status.

If everyone accepted and embraced what Dr. King preached on civil rights, then no one would have anything to fear.

Captain Obvious
04-15-2014, 06:26 AM
So, when do we get some of that black guilt.

And reparations?

Refugee
04-15-2014, 06:33 AM
Well now that this has been brought up! Lets think about this!

If whites are the minority. That means that they will have to hire the white person over the person of color to keep their affirmative action quota's in tact!

I will get a tax deduction if I move into certain areas. And I qualify for special treatment in home and business loans

Whites will be able to get into public collages and universities with lower grades and test scores.

And if anyone ever disagrees with us for any reason at all we will be able to call them a racist and end the discussion!

Not really seeing a down side here!

Official 'Reverse discrimination', its a killer! It's why only some can use the 'N' word and not others. It's why some jobs require people of colour to reflect the 'special needs' of ethnic communities. It's why companies employing a certain number of people have to include disabled and ethnic minorities within the workforce. I don't know if all this has reached the U.S., but it's been up and running in the UK for some time now.

Matty
04-15-2014, 06:37 AM
When it happens we'll whine like little cigars about racism! Non Stop!

Cigar
04-15-2014, 06:52 AM
You prove my point with your non-response. All good, dude, the world needs laborers. ;)

Yea and some people need to believe in something or their life has no meaning :grin:

Live is Good :wink: it's especially good when you don't have to spend it whining and bitching everyday. :laugh:

Cigar
04-15-2014, 06:57 AM
1. The right to freely congregate --ask the ACLU what they think of "Free Speech Zones"
2. The right to be secure in your home, your papers, and your persons
3. The right to bear arms uninfringed
4. The right to privacy

I can go on but I've probably done so in another thread.

1) I go wherever I what to go, have ticket will travel
2) My house is secure enough me, my wife and my dog to sleep like a babies
3) I have all the Guns I want ... probably should clean and oil them soon
4) I have all the privacy I want, my basement is great

I'm glad my world doesn't have the anxiety yours has. :wink:

Cigar
04-15-2014, 06:59 AM
The liberty not to be spied on; the liberty to keep the product of my labor; the liberty to choose what goes into my body; and that's just for starters.

Yea ... kinda sucks when it starts happening to you. :grin:

Now you know how many other people have felt for decades and centuries, welcome to the real world. :wink:

Cigar
04-15-2014, 07:00 AM
Not all white people fear this. Some do, some of them post here: Libhater, Akula, Mr. D....

I think they're Mommies didn't breast feed them :laugh:

1751_Texan
04-15-2014, 07:35 AM
So, when do we get some of that black guilt.

And reparations?

Reparations...is a non-black issue. More non-blacks are "concerned" with reparations than blacks. I almost never hear black folk advocating for reparations. I sure hear a ton of non-blacks discussing the "issue".

Alyosha
04-15-2014, 07:36 AM
1) I go wherever I what to go, have ticket will travel
2) My house is secure enough me, my wife and my dog to sleep like a babies
3) I have all the Guns I want ... probably should clean and oil them soon
4) I have all the privacy I want, my basement is great

I'm glad my world doesn't have the anxiety yours has. :wink:


Where ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise.

Alyosha
04-15-2014, 07:38 AM
Yea ... kinda sucks when it starts happening to you. :grin:

Now you know how many other people have felt for decades and centuries, welcome to the real world. :wink:

Other people have felt? How many pogroms did your family go through?

Ethereal
04-15-2014, 05:32 PM
Yea ... kinda sucks when it starts happening to you. :grin:

I oppose injustice regardless of who it happens to, and always have.


Now you know how many other people have felt for decades and centuries, welcome to the real world. :wink:

Sure, if you consider a divisive, race-obsessed fantasy land the "real world".

Don
04-15-2014, 05:52 PM
Big problem in the UK and in Europe. White flight is officially acknowledged, there is mass emigration and it's predicted that by mid-century whites will be a minority. Does it matter? The problem is that mass immigration changes culture, puts a huge strain on the infrastructure and predictably, has produced high crime rates and ghettoization. America tries to assimilate, unlike Europe, where all cultures have equal standing. Diversity hasn't worked in the UK or Europe.

I don't think assimilation has worked here in America either. You have to want to assimilate.

Ethereal
04-15-2014, 05:52 PM
1) I go wherever I what to go...

Not without the permission of the state, you don't.


2) My house is secure enough me, my wife and my dog to sleep like a babies

Your house and your family are only secure as long as the state decides not to conduct a no-knock, military-style raid on it. And don't think that being innocent of a crime will protect you from becoming the victim of such a raid. Families all over the country have had to find that out the hard way.

http://www.cato.org/raidmap


3) I have all the Guns I want ...

You can thank conservatives and libertarians for that.


4) I have all the privacy I want...

Then you must not value privacy very much.


I'm glad my world doesn't have the anxiety yours has.

You know what they say, ignorance is bliss.

Refugee
04-15-2014, 06:11 PM
Yea and some people need to believe in something or their life has no meaning :grin:

Live is Good :wink: it's especially good when you don't have to spend it whining and bitching everyday. :laugh:

Too much inequality in the west. Welfare for all, that's what I say. :smiley:

Bob
04-15-2014, 06:15 PM
Well now that this has been brought up! Lets think about this!

If whites are the minority. That means that they will have to hire the white person over the person of color to keep their affirmative action quota's in tact!

I will get a tax deduction if I move into certain areas. And I qualify for special treatment in home and business loans

Whites will be able to get into public collages and universities with lower grades and test scores.

And if anyone ever disagrees with us for any reason at all we will be able to call them a racist and end the discussion!

Not really seeing a down side here!

Clever. Well said too.

Bob
04-15-2014, 06:17 PM
If everyone accepted and embraced what Dr. King preached on civil rights, then no one would have anything to fear.

And Dr. King was right. He was a republican.

Refugee
04-15-2014, 06:26 PM
I don't think assimilation has worked here in America either. You have to want to assimilate.

The UK is only a small place and when you get an estimated 5 to 10% destitute immigration, you also got 5% indigenous emigration in the last decade. Imagine the equivalent of up to 20 million immigrants to the U.S. in just in one small state.

1751_Texan
04-15-2014, 06:36 PM
I don't think assimilation has worked here in America either. You have to want to assimilate.

Who sets the rules to assimilation? Who gets to decide if someone has assimilated enough? You all need to let these ridiculous notions go...

zelmo1234
04-15-2014, 06:38 PM
When it happens we'll whine like little cigars about racism! Non Stop!

We will finally have the race card!!!! Won't it be great?

Peter1469
04-15-2014, 06:55 PM
Who sets the rules to assimilation? Who gets to decide if someone has assimilated enough? You all need to let these ridiculous notions go...

It isn't much of a guess...

Alyosha
04-15-2014, 07:08 PM
Who sets the rules to assimilation? Who gets to decide if someone has assimilated enough? You all need to let these ridiculous notions go...

Ravi decides. Apparently I'm not assimilated enough to stay.

Bob
04-15-2014, 07:10 PM
Who sets the rules to assimilation? Who gets to decide if someone has assimilated enough? You all need to let these ridiculous notions go...

First there are no rules. But there are beliefs. And opinions. And we want to preserve America. We don't want to repeat the mistakes Europe made. Seems smart to me.

Davocrat
04-15-2014, 09:29 PM
There’s a meme that’s been floating around for some time that explains why this is a problem for white people:

http://proudtobeafilthyliberalscum.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/minority.jpg



Man, you'd think I would have seen this by now. Brilliant.

Davocrat
04-15-2014, 09:30 PM
"White people"?

Shut the hell up you racist bigot progressive.

We're just as equal as everyone else.

MORE equal.

Liberal Doses
04-15-2014, 09:41 PM
MORE equal.

You do have a big ego after all! Narcissist. More-on.

Peter1469
04-15-2014, 09:46 PM
You do have a big ego after all! Narcissist. More-on.

All of my good NCOICs thought that I was a narcissist. But that went with my job. The key is to let go of that when you have a different job.

Liberal Doses
04-15-2014, 09:50 PM
All of my good NCOICs thought that I was a narcissist. But that went with my job. The key is to let go of that when you have a different job.


Don't worry, I have a big ego and love the hell outa myself. LOL

Liberal Doses
04-15-2014, 09:56 PM
You know what I find amazing is that so many minorities have created division and in essence a new "skin color," under the banners of gangs. This they kill over at the drop of a sign or the color of a scarf. Like the Crips and the Bloods. Wrong color in the right neighborhood and you could die.

Bob
04-15-2014, 09:58 PM
All of my good NCOICs thought that I was a narcissist. But that went with my job. The key is to let go of that when you have a different job.

That kind of surprises me that they felt that way.

Cigar
04-16-2014, 07:26 AM
This is great :laugh:

Archer0915
04-16-2014, 07:43 AM
There’s a meme that’s been floating around for some time that explains why this is a problem for white people:

http://proudtobeafilthyliberalscum.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/minority.jpg

Despite the widespread protests that we’re a post-racial society, only the most oblivious white people don’t know what an utter crock of shit that is. White people have it good in America, even if they’re dirt poor, compared to blacks and Latinos in identical situations. They know it, you know it and Republicans sure as hell know it. Not for nothing, they base their entire political strategy on it.

So yeah, let’s make a note of this under “Shit Everyone Knows.” The less power white people hold in this country, the more afraid they get. When they even admit that they’re afraid of being a minority, they usually pretend that whites will be persecuted and punished for centuries of abuse. The reality, though, is that that they will lose all of their unearned privilege and that terrifies far too many of them. White people like to think that they succeed due to how inherently awesome they are. This is true across the political spectrum but most notable among conservatives and libertarians. They are absolutely convinced of their own racial superiority and it drips from everything they say and do.

News flash! If you’re afraid of an even playing field, you’re not special and you never were. You just had the luck to be born with the right color skin. As Chris Rock so perfectly explained:There ain’t a white man in this room that would change places with me. And I’m rich! :rofl:


Suck it up Caucasians.

You want to get ahead in life?

Stop relying on your skin to get by and stop blaming everyone else for wanting what was handed to you on a silver platter.

http://proudtobeafilthyliberalscum.com/2014/04/13/white-people-afraid-becoming-minority-sht-sherlock/


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cD6A1FRcnXY/SX0F8FN5pKI/AAAAAAAAAlg/y0-V5Zox258/s400/its+not+fair.jpg
Cigar :) I got to do this... and you know the issues are real.

So blacks are still the minority and will still be but as the white demographic shrinks so will the white guilt! No MO white massa! All good but who, other than white progressives, is going to pamper the sorry asses? Only in the west do we have these issue you know.

So whites are a minority... Shit yeah I cant wait!

Archer0915
04-16-2014, 07:43 AM
There’s a meme that’s been floating around for some time that explains why this is a problem for white people:

http://proudtobeafilthyliberalscum.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/minority.jpg

Despite the widespread protests that we’re a post-racial society, only the most oblivious white people don’t know what an utter crock of shit that is. White people have it good in America, even if they’re dirt poor, compared to blacks and Latinos in identical situations. They know it, you know it and Republicans sure as hell know it. Not for nothing, they base their entire political strategy on it.

So yeah, let’s make a note of this under “Shit Everyone Knows.” The less power white people hold in this country, the more afraid they get. When they even admit that they’re afraid of being a minority, they usually pretend that whites will be persecuted and punished for centuries of abuse. The reality, though, is that that they will lose all of their unearned privilege and that terrifies far too many of them. White people like to think that they succeed due to how inherently awesome they are. This is true across the political spectrum but most notable among conservatives and libertarians. They are absolutely convinced of their own racial superiority and it drips from everything they say and do.

News flash! If you’re afraid of an even playing field, you’re not special and you never were. You just had the luck to be born with the right color skin. As Chris Rock so perfectly explained:There ain’t a white man in this room that would change places with me. And I’m rich! :rofl:


Suck it up Caucasians.

You want to get ahead in life?

Stop relying on your skin to get by and stop blaming everyone else for wanting what was handed to you on a silver platter.

http://proudtobeafilthyliberalscum.com/2014/04/13/white-people-afraid-becoming-minority-sht-sherlock/


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cD6A1FRcnXY/SX0F8FN5pKI/AAAAAAAAAlg/y0-V5Zox258/s400/its+not+fair.jpg
Cigar :) I got to do this... and you know the issues are real.

So blacks are still the minority and will still be but as the white demographic shrinks so will the white guilt! No MO white massa! All good but who, other than white progressives, is going to pamper the sorry asses? Only in the west do we have these issue you know.

So whites are a minority... Shit yeah I cant wait!

Cigar
04-16-2014, 07:47 AM
:laugh: x2 :roflmao:

Archer0915
04-16-2014, 07:58 AM
:laugh: x2 :roflmao:

Double posts! Can you address either of them? What happens when the "White Man" is not longer in the majority? I do not think it will have any real effect on whites but the rest can look the fuck out.

Cigar
04-16-2014, 08:04 AM
Double posts! Can you address either of them? What happens when the "White Man" is not longer in the majority? I do not think it will have any real effect on whites but the rest can look the fuck out.

I don't have to Feel Special or Privileged :grin:

Archer0915
04-16-2014, 08:43 AM
I don't have to Feel Special or Privileged :grin:

No shit! You work for a living and from what I have heard from you, momma and daddy raised you proper... They did pretty good.

Still do you feel like addressing anything in my post or are we just going to presume you agree?

Akula
04-17-2014, 11:09 AM
Despite the widespread protests that we’re a post-racial society, only the most oblivious white people don’t know what an utter crock of shit that is. White people have it good in America, even if they’re dirt poor, compared to blacks and Latinos in identical situations. They know it, you know it and Republicans sure as hell know it. Not for nothing, they base their entire political strategy on it.

I see.



In America today, everyone is assigned a legally-enforceable racial category by the government.

"Rights" and "privileges" are then granted or denied based on one's racial membership, with non-whites given preferences over whites. Negroes are even called a "protected class" because they are given a disproportionate amount of rights and privileges to artificially "elevate" them above white people.

The federal government does this in the name of anti-racism, of course.:rollseyes:

Archer0915
04-17-2014, 11:11 AM
In America today, everyone is assigned a legally-enforceable racial category by the government.

"Rights" and "privileges" are then granted or denied based on one's racial membership, with non-whites given preferences over whites. Negroes are even called a "protected class" because they are given a disproportionate amount of rights and privileges to artificially "elevate" them above white people.

The federal government does this in the name of anti-racism, of course.:rollseyes:

Let us pray that all quotas and AA and all that shit ends when the White man becomes the minority.

Akula
04-17-2014, 11:18 AM
Not all white people fear this. Some do, some of them post here: Libhater, Akula, Mr. D....


The problem is the sheer number of ways the (infiltrated) government has of artificially elevating negroes over qualified, deserving white people.
Why is it that white people who value and want to protect their heritage, culture and achievements scare you people so much?

Keep pushing, though. White people angered are a fearsome opponent.

Akula
04-17-2014, 11:20 AM
Let us pray that all quotas and AA and all that shit ends when the White man becomes the minority.

Why would anyone celebrate the demise of a race?

If all people bred and created a mixed, mud brown society, wouldn't that go against all this "diversity" the left is so shrill about?

Ravi
04-17-2014, 11:29 AM
The problem is the sheer number of ways the (infiltrated) government has of artificially elevating negroes over qualified, deserving white people.
Why is it that white people who value and want to protect their heritage, culture and achievements scare you people so much?

Keep pushing, though. White people angered are a fearsome opponent.
Where Negroes elevated over you, Akula? Are you a qualified, deserving (does that mean entitled) white people?

Archer0915
04-17-2014, 11:44 AM
Why would anyone celebrate the demise of a race?

If all people bred and created a mixed, mud brown society, wouldn't that go against all this "diversity" the left is so shrill about?

All I am getting at is when the Whites that are full of this guilt are gone who will be blamed? I guess the Latinos and black folk will duke it out over who is going to be the new Massa and pay the welfare.

Akula
04-17-2014, 11:45 AM
Where Negroes elevated over you, Akula?
Me? This isn't about "me".
Are you aware of ANY laws by the U.S. govt that elevate "minority" members based on their race? There are many, aren't there? Isn't that "racist"?

Are there any government agencies/groups that specify they are for "black" people only? There are many, aren't there? Isn't that "racist"?

Are you aware of any universities that have curriculum that specifies "african-american" studies? There are many. Isn't that "racist"?
Are there colleges offering "white american" studies? There aren't any. Why not? Because that would be "racist".



Are you a qualified, deserving (does that mean entitled) white people?

I'm white. I have to earn whatever I make. The government isn't giving me anything. I'm the wrong race for that.

Perianne
04-17-2014, 11:47 AM
I'm white. I have to earn whatever I make. The government isn't giving me anything. I'm the wrong race for that.

I am white, too. Are we the only whites on this forum?

Common Sense
04-17-2014, 11:53 AM
It is very tough being white. I just hate it!!! Hate it I tells ya!

Akula
04-17-2014, 11:54 AM
Depart the gene pool, then. It's the only way.

Captain Obvious
04-17-2014, 11:57 AM
It is very tough being white. I just hate it!!! Hate it I tells ya!

Yeah, last time I bought a house, every black family in the neighborhood moved out within 6 months after we got there.

Matty
04-17-2014, 11:57 AM
I be white.

Captain Obvious
04-17-2014, 12:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GRgoxWap-M

Common Sense
04-17-2014, 12:01 PM
Yeah, last time I bought a house, every black family in the neighborhood moved out within 6 months after we got there.

Don't you hate that? I hate not being followed around in stores and people not being afraid of me. Come on...I'm a badass.

Ravi
04-17-2014, 12:03 PM
Me? This isn't about "me".
Are you aware of ANY laws by the U.S. govt that elevate "minority" members based on their race? There are many, aren't there? Isn't that "racist"? There aren't any.


Are there any government agencies/groups that specify they are for "black" people only? There are many, aren't there? Isn't that "racist"? Congressional Black Caucus? You can start a white one any time you please.


Are you aware of any universities that have curriculum that specifies "african-american" studies? There are many. Isn't that "racist"?
Are there colleges offering "white american" studies? There aren't any. Why not? Because that would be "racist".Here also, you can push for white american studies in universities.





I'm white. I have to earn whatever I make. The government isn't giving me anything. I'm the wrong race for that.
You have my pity.

Ravi
04-17-2014, 12:03 PM
It is very tough being white. I just hate it!!! Hate it I tells ya!Get a sun tan and change your name to Julio Perez! ;) Or Juanita if you're a female.

Common Sense
04-17-2014, 12:06 PM
Get a sun tan and change your name to Julio Perez! ;) Or Juanita if you're a female.

Not a bad idea...Julio. I'm doing it. According to some around here it'll mean I can get lots of free shit and preferential treatment. Life will be grand once I'm brown enough.


;)

Captain Obvious
04-17-2014, 12:07 PM
Get a sun tan and change your name to Julio Perez! ;) Or Juanita if you're a female.

or Cigar if you're neither.

Ravi
04-17-2014, 12:08 PM
Not a bad idea...Julio. I'm doing it. According to some around here it'll mean I can get lots of free shit and preferential treatment. Life will be grand once I'm brown enough.


;)
You'll love it. The police will stop you for no reason and demand to see your papers. Random white people will come up to you and yell speak English!

Captain Obvious
04-17-2014, 12:09 PM
You'll love it. The police will stop you for no reason and demand to see your papers. Random white people will come up to you and yell speak English!

And you'll suddenly know how to mulch and prune that tricky spot by the porch.

Mister D
04-17-2014, 12:13 PM
And you'll suddenly know how to mulch and prune that tricky spot by the porch.

That's one reason I haven't bothered to learn Spanish. I do all that shit myself.

Captain Obvious
04-17-2014, 12:17 PM
That's one reason I haven't bothered to learn Spanish. I do all that shit myself.

They have hispanics in Jersey?

I guess so, a lot of them I think are migrant farm workers up and down the coast.

I used to fly into Newark a lot, it was a hub to where I was ultimately heading. The Newark airport is like a fucking third world country. I thought I was going to be arrested by Columbian socialist freedom fighters or whatnot.

Perianne
04-17-2014, 12:19 PM
Get a sun tan and change your name to Julio Perez! ;) Or Juanita if you're a female.

I fear my blonde hair would give it away.

Mister D
04-17-2014, 12:20 PM
They have hispanics in Jersey?

I guess so, a lot of them I think are migrant farm workers up and down the coast.

I used to fly into Newark a lot, it was a hub to where I was ultimately heading. The Newark airport is like a fucking third world country. I thought I was going to be arrested by Columbian socialist freedom fighters or whatnot.

Landscape crews are typically Mexican now at least around here. Chain restaurant kitchens are full of then too.

Newark Airport is f'n enormous. It's like a city inside a city. Yeah, it looks like a meeting of the UN General Assembly.

Mr. Mensch
04-17-2014, 12:26 PM
I fear my blonde hair would give it away.

Not necessarily


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK-ejB8ON34

Perianne
04-17-2014, 12:28 PM
I fear my blonde hair would give it away.

And I am too tall to be a Mexican.

Captain Obvious
04-17-2014, 12:30 PM
And I am too tall to be a Mexican.

Tiny ass?

Dr. Who
04-18-2014, 12:45 AM
Me? This isn't about "me".
Are you aware of ANY laws by the U.S. govt that elevate "minority" members based on their race? There are many, aren't there? Isn't that "racist"?

Are there any government agencies/groups that specify they are for "black" people only? There are many, aren't there? Isn't that "racist"?

Are you aware of any universities that have curriculum that specifies "african-american" studies? There are many. Isn't that "racist"?
Are there colleges offering "white american" studies? There aren't any. Why not? Because that would be "racist".




I'm white. I have to earn whatever I make. The government isn't giving me anything. I'm the wrong race for that.
White American studies = history, geography, economics, sociology etc. There is very little in the curriculum that has traditionally gone out of its way to recognize the contributions, lives or cultures of non-whites. Despite affirmative action programs, which I don't really agree with, whites are still overwhelmingly hired over non-whites, government employment not withstanding.

Bob
04-18-2014, 12:58 AM
White American studies = history, geography, economics, sociology etc. There is very little in the curriculum that has traditionally gone out of its way to recognize the contributions, lives or cultures of non-whites. Despite affirmative action programs, which I don't really agree with, whites are still overwhelmingly hired over non-whites, government employment not withstanding.

And you missed your golden opportunity to brag about the things Negros did for this country.

We can start off with the pillage of cities. They did a lot of that.

Dr. Who
04-18-2014, 01:39 AM
And you missed your golden opportunity to brag about the things Negros did for this country.

We can start off with the pillage of cities. They did a lot of that.

Pillaging is a bit strong. Institutionalized racism was the impetus for the exodus of blacks to the north for job opportunities. This also broke down the traditional extended family and support system that these individuals benefited from in the south. US economic woes eventually resulted in massive unemployment among blacks in the north, with racism underpinning their unemployment, and misguided government programs essentially encouraged not working. In the absence of family pride, and recognition of family values, there was a breakdown of family unity, resulting in single motherhood and boys without familial male role models, creating impoverished and dysfunctional ghetto conditions. The result, with the addition of a growing drug culture, is what you see today in these neighborhoods.

There are many noteworthy upstanding black citizens who brought value to America. They have just generally been ignored in the annals of history until recently.

Cigar
04-18-2014, 07:45 AM
:grin: Want some Whine and Cheese :grin:

Archer0915
04-18-2014, 08:23 AM
:grin: Want some Whine and Cheese :grin:

What the fuck you talkin bout Blackula?

You drunk?

It is, "Can I get you some cheese for your whine"

Libhater
04-18-2014, 11:09 AM
There are many noteworthy upstanding black citizens who brought value to America. They have just generally been ignored in the annals of history until recently.

Since we don't seem to have anyone (including cigar) presenting the names of these black individuals who have given 'values' to our American history, I hereby
designate you as the titular leader in providing these names of blacks with their individual contribution(s) to our American history. MLK for instance didn't bring
value to our history--he brought a decade of unrest and violent city riots which have in the long run only led to the complete devastation by leaving many of our
larger cities like Detroit--having a majority black population in utter ruin. BTW, MLK's desire to create unrest among the races, people like Al Sharpton have picked
up his baton and ran with that very same ideal by causing havoc among the races by race baiting every political issue to death.

Dr. Who
04-18-2014, 02:04 PM
Since we don't seem to have anyone (including cigar) presenting the names of these black individuals who have given 'values' to our American history, I hereby
designate you as the titular leader in providing these names of blacks with their individual contribution(s) to our American history. MLK for instance didn't bring
value to our history--he brought a decade of unrest and violent city riots which have in the long run only led to the complete devastation by leaving many of our
larger cities like Detroit--having a majority black population in utter ruin. BTW, MLK's desire to create unrest among the races, people like Al Sharpton have picked
up his baton and ran with that very same ideal by causing havoc among the races by race baiting every political issue to death.

Not counting the famous civil rights activists, there have been numerous musicians, singers, actors, athletes and inventors & scientists that have brought great value to America. Here are a few of the inventors & scientists, since I'm sure you can recall the names of the rest:
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/bhmscientists1.html

Refugee
04-18-2014, 07:13 PM
Not counting the famous civil rights activists, there have been numerous musicians, singers, actors, athletes and inventors & scientists that have brought great value to America. Here are a few of the inventors & scientists, since I'm sure you can recall the names of the rest:
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/bhmscientists1.html

Yeah, you tell 'em Dr.


Music, in the form of rap.

6876


or culture, in the form of alternative recreational activities


6877


and errr, well, lots of things. :smiley:

Dr. Who
04-18-2014, 07:33 PM
Yeah, you tell 'em Dr.


Music, in the form of rap.

6876


or culture, in the form of alternative recreational activities


6877


and errr, well, lots of things. :smiley:
Jazz, blues, gospel, soul, funk, country and even rock music.
Louis Armstrong (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/larmstrong.htm) - Musician and composer of jazz music, known as one of the founding fathers of jazz.
Chuck Berry (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/chuckberry.htm) - Blues and rock and roll guitarist and vocalist.
James Brown (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/jamesbrown.htm) - Vocalist and keyboardist of Soul, R&B, Funk, Pop and Dance music genres.
Ray Charles (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/raycharles.htm) - Known as "The Genius," he was a gospel singer/songwriter and pianist.
Nat King Cole (http://musiced.about.com/od/singersvocalists/p/natkingcole.htm) - He started out as a pianist and later became known as a vocalist.
John Coltrane (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/coltrane.htm) - Influential tenor jazz saxophonist.
Edmond Dede (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/blackhistory2.htm) - Violin prodigy and Orchestra Conductor at the Alcazar Theatre for 27 years.
Duke Ellington (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/dukeellington.htm) - Composer, bandleader and jazz pianist, fondly called "The Duke."
Ella Fitzgerald (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/ellafitzgerald.htm) - Known as "The First Lady of Song" and for her incredible scat-singing.
Dizzy Gillespie (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/gillespie.htm) - One of the founding fathers of jazz and one of the inventors of bebop.
Billie Holiday (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/billieholiday.htm) - Dubbed "Lady Day," she was one of the foremost blues singers in history known for her soulful voice.
Francis Johnson (http://musiced.about.com/od/lessonsandtips/p/blackhist1.htm) - The inventor of cotillions and was the first major band master in the US.
Scott Joplin (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/joplin.htm) - Known as the "King of Ragtime" due to his classic rags for the piano.
B.B. King (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/bbking.htm) - Known as "The King of the Blues."
Charlie "Bird" Parker (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/parker.htm) - Influenced the development of "bop" in the 1940s and was one of the greatest improvising soloists in jazz.
Florence Beatrice Price (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/florenceprice.htm) - The first African-American woman composer whose work was performed by a leading US orchestra.
Ma Rainey (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/joeoliver.htm) - Known as the first great blues singer, she made over 100 recordings under the Paramount label.
Bessie Smith (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/bessiesmith.htm) - Known as "Empress of the Blues," one of the greatest blues singers of the 1920s.
Sarah Vaughan (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/sarahvaughan.htm) - One of the greatest jazz vocalists in history whose career spanned almost 50 years.
Fats Waller (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/fatswaller.htm) - Jazz organist, pianist, singer, composer, conductor and bandleader of small bands during the 1930s.
Jimi_Hendrix (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_Hendrix) - one of the most influential electric guitarists in the history of popular music, and one of the most celebrated musicians of the 20th century

Refugee
04-18-2014, 07:54 PM
Jazz, blues, gospel, soul, funk, country and even rock music.
Louis Armstrong (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/larmstrong.htm) - Musician and composer of jazz music, known as one of the founding fathers of jazz.
Chuck Berry (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/chuckberry.htm) - Blues and rock and roll guitarist and vocalist.
James Brown (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/jamesbrown.htm) - Vocalist and keyboardist of Soul, R&B, Funk, Pop and Dance music genres.
Ray Charles (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/raycharles.htm) - Known as "The Genius," he was a gospel singer/songwriter and pianist.
Nat King Cole (http://musiced.about.com/od/singersvocalists/p/natkingcole.htm) - He started out as a pianist and later became known as a vocalist.
John Coltrane (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/coltrane.htm) - Influential tenor jazz saxophonist.
Edmond Dede (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/blackhistory2.htm) - Violin prodigy and Orchestra Conductor at the Alcazar Theatre for 27 years.
Duke Ellington (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/dukeellington.htm) - Composer, bandleader and jazz pianist, fondly called "The Duke."
Ella Fitzgerald (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/ellafitzgerald.htm) - Known as "The First Lady of Song" and for her incredible scat-singing.
Dizzy Gillespie (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/gillespie.htm) - One of the founding fathers of jazz and one of the inventors of bebop.
Billie Holiday (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/billieholiday.htm) - Dubbed "Lady Day," she was one of the foremost blues singers in history known for her soulful voice.
Francis Johnson (http://musiced.about.com/od/lessonsandtips/p/blackhist1.htm) - The inventor of cotillions and was the first major band master in the US.
Scott Joplin (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/joplin.htm) - Known as the "King of Ragtime" due to his classic rags for the piano.
B.B. King (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/bbking.htm) - Known as "The King of the Blues."
Charlie "Bird" Parker (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/parker.htm) - Influenced the development of "bop" in the 1940s and was one of the greatest improvising soloists in jazz.
Florence Beatrice Price (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/florenceprice.htm) - The first African-American woman composer whose work was performed by a leading US orchestra.
Ma Rainey (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/joeoliver.htm) - Known as the first great blues singer, she made over 100 recordings under the Paramount label.
Bessie Smith (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/bessiesmith.htm) - Known as "Empress of the Blues," one of the greatest blues singers of the 1920s.
Sarah Vaughan (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/sarahvaughan.htm) - One of the greatest jazz vocalists in history whose career spanned almost 50 years.
Fats Waller (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/fatswaller.htm) - Jazz organist, pianist, singer, composer, conductor and bandleader of small bands during the 1930s.
Jimi_Hendrix (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_Hendrix) - one of the most influential electric guitarists in the history of popular music, and one of the most celebrated musicians of the 20th century


Yes and those as well. Ghetto culture was the bit that really took off though. :smiley:

I've heard of about half of these.

Mister D
04-18-2014, 08:23 PM
Jazz, blues, gospel, soul, funk, country and even rock music.
Louis Armstrong (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/larmstrong.htm) - Musician and composer of jazz music, known as one of the founding fathers of jazz.
Chuck Berry (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/chuckberry.htm) - Blues and rock and roll guitarist and vocalist.
James Brown (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/jamesbrown.htm) - Vocalist and keyboardist of Soul, R&B, Funk, Pop and Dance music genres.
Ray Charles (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/raycharles.htm) - Known as "The Genius," he was a gospel singer/songwriter and pianist.
Nat King Cole (http://musiced.about.com/od/singersvocalists/p/natkingcole.htm) - He started out as a pianist and later became known as a vocalist.
John Coltrane (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/coltrane.htm) - Influential tenor jazz saxophonist.
Edmond Dede (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/blackhistory2.htm) - Violin prodigy and Orchestra Conductor at the Alcazar Theatre for 27 years.
Duke Ellington (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/dukeellington.htm) - Composer, bandleader and jazz pianist, fondly called "The Duke."
Ella Fitzgerald (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/ellafitzgerald.htm) - Known as "The First Lady of Song" and for her incredible scat-singing.
Dizzy Gillespie (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/gillespie.htm) - One of the founding fathers of jazz and one of the inventors of bebop.
Billie Holiday (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/billieholiday.htm) - Dubbed "Lady Day," she was one of the foremost blues singers in history known for her soulful voice.
Francis Johnson (http://musiced.about.com/od/lessonsandtips/p/blackhist1.htm) - The inventor of cotillions and was the first major band master in the US.
Scott Joplin (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/joplin.htm) - Known as the "King of Ragtime" due to his classic rags for the piano.
B.B. King (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/bbking.htm) - Known as "The King of the Blues."
Charlie "Bird" Parker (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/parker.htm) - Influenced the development of "bop" in the 1940s and was one of the greatest improvising soloists in jazz.
Florence Beatrice Price (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/florenceprice.htm) - The first African-American woman composer whose work was performed by a leading US orchestra.
Ma Rainey (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/joeoliver.htm) - Known as the first great blues singer, she made over 100 recordings under the Paramount label.
Bessie Smith (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/bessiesmith.htm) - Known as "Empress of the Blues," one of the greatest blues singers of the 1920s.
Sarah Vaughan (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/sarahvaughan.htm) - One of the greatest jazz vocalists in history whose career spanned almost 50 years.
Fats Waller (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/fatswaller.htm) - Jazz organist, pianist, singer, composer, conductor and bandleader of small bands during the 1930s.
Jimi_Hendrix (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_Hendrix) - one of the most influential electric guitarists in the history of popular music, and one of the most celebrated musicians of the 20th century


Do you really believe America was better off with an African minority?

Dr. Who
04-18-2014, 08:55 PM
Do you really believe America was better off with an African minority? Ask the southern slave owners who wanted free labor. Were it a population of voluntary immigrants who had never been exploited by whites, things would likely be much different.

Refugee
04-18-2014, 09:38 PM
Ask the southern slave owners who wanted free labor. Were it a population of voluntary immigrants who had never been exploited by whites, things would likely be much different.

But for how much longer do we keep blaming slavery? Look around Africa, its no different there now. The U.S. was once a colony and so was the UK, by the Italians and the French. It just seems Africans can't pull themselves up wherever they are?

Mister D
04-18-2014, 09:45 PM
Ask the southern slave owners who wanted free labor. Were it a population of voluntary immigrants who had never been exploited by whites, things would likely be much different.

I'll take that as a no. Only a fool would suggest otherwise.

Mister D
04-18-2014, 09:49 PM
But for how much longer do we keep blaming slavery? Look around Africa, its no different there now. The U.S. was once a colony and so was the UK, by the Italians and the French. It just seems Africans can't pull themselves up wherever they are?

These are people who believe in evolution, will mock you for you casting doubt on said theory, but cling desperately to the Christian concept of equality regardless of what the theory evolution would predict.

Mister D
04-18-2014, 09:50 PM
Oh, and they will mock Christianity too. incredible.

Refugee
04-18-2014, 10:10 PM
These are people who believe in evolution, will mock you for you casting doubt on said theory, but cling desperately to the Christian concept of equality regardless of what the theory evolution would predict.

Just takes some longer to evolve than others. If your ‘roots’ are a catalogue of disasters and tribalist blood baths, it might be better to assimilate into something better than reject?

6883

Mister D
04-18-2014, 10:12 PM
Just takes some longer to evolve than others. If your ‘roots’ are a catalogue of disasters and tribalist blood baths, it might be better to assimilate into something better than reject?

6883


Well, I always say let a thousand flowers bloom but each in their own pot.

Refugee
04-18-2014, 10:37 PM
Well, I always say let a thousand flowers bloom but each in their own pot.

Covering it with $'s won't turn it into a rose bush.

6884

Bob
04-18-2014, 10:53 PM
http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Dr. Who http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=582588#post582588)
Jazz, blues, gospel, soul, funk, country and even rock music.
Louis Armstrong (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/larmstrong.htm) - Musician and composer of jazz music, known as one of the founding fathers of jazz.
Chuck Berry (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/chuckberry.htm) - Blues and rock and roll guitarist and vocalist.
James Brown (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/jamesbrown.htm) - Vocalist and keyboardist of Soul, R&B, Funk, Pop and Dance music genres.
Ray Charles (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/raycharles.htm) - Known as "The Genius," he was a gospel singer/songwriter and pianist.
Nat King Cole (http://musiced.about.com/od/singersvocalists/p/natkingcole.htm) - He started out as a pianist and later became known as a vocalist.
John Coltrane (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/coltrane.htm) - Influential tenor jazz saxophonist.
Edmond Dede (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/blackhistory2.htm) - Violin prodigy and Orchestra Conductor at the Alcazar Theatre for 27 years.
Duke Ellington (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/dukeellington.htm) - Composer, bandleader and jazz pianist, fondly called "The Duke."
Ella Fitzgerald (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/ellafitzgerald.htm) - Known as "The First Lady of Song" and for her incredible scat-singing.
Dizzy Gillespie (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/gillespie.htm) - One of the founding fathers of jazz and one of the inventors of bebop.
Billie Holiday (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/billieholiday.htm) - Dubbed "Lady Day," she was one of the foremost blues singers in history known for her soulful voice.
Francis Johnson (http://musiced.about.com/od/lessonsandtips/p/blackhist1.htm) - The inventor of cotillions and was the first major band master in the US.
Scott Joplin (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/joplin.htm) - Known as the "King of Ragtime" due to his classic rags for the piano.
B.B. King (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/bbking.htm) - Known as "The King of the Blues."
Charlie "Bird" Parker (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/parker.htm) - Influenced the development of "bop" in the 1940s and was one of the greatest improvising soloists in jazz.
Florence Beatrice Price (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/florenceprice.htm) - The first African-American woman composer whose work was performed by a leading US orchestra.
Ma Rainey (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/joeoliver.htm) - Known as the first great blues singer, she made over 100 recordings under the Paramount label.
Bessie Smith (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/bessiesmith.htm) - Known as "Empress of the Blues," one of the greatest blues singers of the 1920s.
Sarah Vaughan (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/sarahvaughan.htm) - One of the greatest jazz vocalists in history whose career spanned almost 50 years.
Fats Waller (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/fatswaller.htm) - Jazz organist, pianist, singer, composer, conductor and bandleader of small bands during the 1930s.
Jimi_Hendrix (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_Hendrix) - one of the most influential electric guitarists in the history of popular music, and one of the most celebrated musicians of the 20th century


Do you really believe America was better off with an African minority?

Were is Fats domino? I think he is still alive.

What happened to Al Hirt? Is he living? Not a negro but one hell of a horn player.

Hirt died. Damn.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfYFEPQ-gY0

Dr. Who
04-18-2014, 10:57 PM
But for how much longer do we keep blaming slavery? Look around Africa, its no different there now. The U.S. was once a colony and so was the UK, by the Italians and the French. It just seems Africans can't pull themselves up wherever they are?

African colonies, unlike European or North American colonies were places where the indigenous people were treated like second class citizens by their occupiers. Borders were arbitrarily drawn, encompassing disparate and historically antagonistic tribes. While certain corrupt blacks did achieve status within these colonial occupancies, they did so at the expense of their own people. When the colonial occupancies vacated, these corrupt black elite stepped into the power vacuum and have continued to sell out their people to the highest commercial bidder ever since, just to line their own pockets. To this must be added extreme drought in parts of Africa and the incursion of Islamic fundamentalists.

Furthermore there are wealthy western industrialists who continue to manipulate and destabilize African countries to their own ends. One of the biggest offenders was Roland Walter. “Tiny” Roland, former head of British Transnational Corporation, Lonrho. (Lonrho is acronym for the London Rhodesia Company).

For decades, he was the most powerful Western businessman in Africa. He had access to all African heads of state and government as well as African freedom fighters, guerrillas and even bandits. He would do business with African leaders, while funding guerrillas fighting the very leaders whom he was wining and dining. He died in 1998, but his ilk still continue to do what they can to ensure cheap access to African resources by inflaming historical tribal conflicts and by bribing the corrupt African elite to sell out their peoples. The incessant manipulation and skullduggery has not allowed the people of Africa to settle into any period of peace and prosperity, but instead a constant state of civil unrest and poverty.

It is the immense resource value of Africa that has historically made them the target of every imperialistic culture and moreover ambitious, greedy amoral business. This has resulted in extreme social stratification, with the very rich living like sultans and the very poor scratching the ground for food. People no longer generally live as did their ancestors, they now depend on jobs, which are few and far between.

Attempts at farm land redistribution in places like Zimbabwe failed to take into consideration that the people receiving the lands had no experience in modern commercial farming, nor have banks been willing to assist farmers in acquiring adequate tools, thus the agricultural output of these lands has dropped precipitously.

Meanwhile in other parts of Africa large foreign agribusiness is increasingly leasing large tracts of land and creating pollution for the surrounding villages, aggressively confiscating cattle for trespass, and not providing local employment. Some things never change.

Bob
04-18-2014, 11:13 PM
African colonies, unlike European or North American colonies were places where the indigenous people were treated like second class citizens by their occupiers. Borders were arbitrarily drawn, encompassing disparate and historically antagonistic tribes. While certain corrupt blacks did achieve status within these colonial occupancies, they did so at the expense of their own people. When the colonial occupancies vacated, these corrupt black elite stepped into the power vacuum and have continued to sell out their people to the highest commercial bidder ever since, just to line their own pockets. To this must be added extreme drought in parts of Africa and the incursion of Islamic fundamentalists.

Furthermore there are wealthy western industrialists who continue to manipulate and destabilize African countries to their own ends. One of the biggest offenders was Roland Walter. “Tiny” Roland, former head of British Transnational Corporation, Lonrho. (Lonrho is acronym for the London Rhodesia Company).

For decades, he was the most powerful Western businessman in Africa. He had access to all African heads of state and government as well as African freedom fighters, guerrillas and even bandits. He would do business with African leaders, while funding guerrillas fighting the very leaders whom he was wining and dining. He died in 1998, but his ilk still continue to do what they can to ensure cheap access to African resources by inflaming historical tribal conflicts and by bribing the corrupt African elite to sell out their peoples. The incessant manipulation and skullduggery has not allowed the people of Africa to settle into any period of peace and prosperity, but instead a constant state of civil unrest and poverty.

It is the immense resource value of Africa that has historically made them the target of every imperialistic culture and moreover ambitious, greedy amoral business. This has resulted in extreme social stratification, with the very rich living like sultans and the very poor scratching the ground for food. People no longer generally live as did their ancestors, they now depend on jobs, which are few and far between.

Attempts at farm land redistribution in places like Zimbabwe failed to take into consideration that the people receiving the lands had no experience in modern commercial farming, nor have banks been willing to assist farmers in acquiring adequate tools, thus the agricultural output of these lands has dropped precipitously.

Meanwhile in other parts of Africa large foreign agribusiness is increasingly leasing large tracts of land and creating pollution for the surrounding villages, aggressively confiscating cattle for trespass, and not providing local employment. Some things never change.

My god, that makes Africa sound like a country rather than a continent.

Some of the most anti American blacks I have encountered came from Africa and attended college. They ran down American negroes to the point it got hard to listen to.

Dr. Who
04-18-2014, 11:36 PM
My god, that makes Africa sound like a country rather than a continent.

Some of the most anti American blacks I have encountered came from Africa and attended college. They ran down American negroes to the point it got hard to listen to.

Not a country, but probably the most resource rich continent on the planet.

Black people are not a single people and Africans are not Americans. They have very different views and attitudes and are generally much more conservative than American blacks. Often those who attended college in America either come from the homes of the wealthy elite in Africa, or come to America off the savings of an entire extended family. Neither extreme has anything in common with the black people in America. The poorest people in America are probably better off than the African middle class, which is a very small percentage of the African population. The experience of an isolated population is inherently different from people who come from places where they are the majority, especially in terms of culture. It is hard for people to identify with the dissimilarity of context.

Bob
04-18-2014, 11:53 PM
Not a country, but probably the most resource rich continent on the planet.

Black people are not a single people and Africans are not Americans. They have very different views and attitudes and are generally much more conservative than American blacks. Often those who attended college in America either come from the homes of the wealthy elite in Africa, or come to America off the savings of an entire extended family. Neither extreme has anything in common with the black people in America. The poorest people in America are probably better off than the African middle class, which is a very small percentage of the African population. The experience of an isolated population is inherently different from people who come from places where they are the majority, especially in terms of culture. It is hard for people to identify with the dissimilarity of context.

I wasn't able to find out one guys wealth. I can't recall which country he came from. But he sure was upset with the American blacks. And this in CA where we normally see no prejudice to speak of. I had one black from Ethiopia work for me and he ripped me off. Don't know a thing about his family life in Africa. Had one from Nigeria who said he had a degree in chemistry. I asked why not work in chemistry? He gave me some excuse. I have known many blacks over my life. Some were great people.

Dr. Who
04-19-2014, 12:25 AM
I wasn't able to find out one guys wealth. I can't recall which country he came from. But he sure was upset with the American blacks. And this in CA where we normally see no prejudice to speak of. I had one black from Ethiopia work for me and he ripped me off. Don't know a thing about his family life in Africa. Had one from Nigeria who said he had a degree in chemistry. I asked why not work in chemistry? He gave me some excuse. I have known many blacks over my life. Some were great people.

Hey, the same can probably be said of the white people you have known in your lifetime, proportionally. I take people as I find them. Color, ethnicity and culture don't come into it. You are either a decent person or not. I don't play favorites.

Libhater
04-19-2014, 06:45 AM
Hey, the same can probably be said of the white people you have known in your lifetime, proportionally. I take people as I find them. Color, ethnicity and culture don't come into it. You are either a decent person or not. I don't play favorites.

You may not think it to be so, but I don't play favorites when it comes to appreciating the indiviidual for what they contribute to society or
for what type of soul they portray. For instance, I have a great appreciation for the black Ben Carson, and will support him if he decides to
run for the presidency. Some of my favorite economists, historians, politicians etc. just happen to be black like a Thomas Sowell, Ben Carson,
Walter Williams, Bill Cosby, Shelby Steele. Oh, did I mention they're all Conservatives, except maybe Mr. Cosby?

The reason I tend to personally segregate in my life is because I feel more comfortable being with other WHITE people as
we have much in common. For instance, I tend to spend more time with my family members then I would mingling in an
all-black ghetto with people I would have nothing in common with.
This is just common sense to me.

Refugee
04-19-2014, 07:03 AM
African colonies, unlike European or North American colonies were places where the indigenous people were treated like second class citizens by their occupiers. Borders were arbitrarily drawn, encompassing disparate and historically antagonistic tribes. While certain corrupt blacks did achieve status within these colonial occupancies, they did so at the expense of their own people. When the colonial occupancies vacated, these corrupt black elite stepped into the power vacuum and have continued to sell out their people to the highest commercial bidder ever since, just to line their own pockets. To this must be added extreme drought in parts of Africa and the incursion of Islamic fundamentalists.

Furthermore there are wealthy western industrialists who continue to manipulate and destabilize African countries to their own ends. One of the biggest offenders was Roland Walter. “Tiny” Roland, former head of British Transnational Corporation, Lonrho. (Lonrho is acronym for the London Rhodesia Company).

For decades, he was the most powerful Western businessman in Africa. He had access to all African heads of state and government as well as African freedom fighters, guerrillas and even bandits. He would do business with African leaders, while funding guerrillas fighting the very leaders whom he was wining and dining. He died in 1998, but his ilk still continue to do what they can to ensure cheap access to African resources by inflaming historical tribal conflicts and by bribing the corrupt African elite to sell out their peoples. The incessant manipulation and skullduggery has not allowed the people of Africa to settle into any period of peace and prosperity, but instead a constant state of civil unrest and poverty.

It is the immense resource value of Africa that has historically made them the target of every imperialistic culture and moreover ambitious, greedy amoral business. This has resulted in extreme social stratification, with the very rich living like sultans and the very poor scratching the ground for food. People no longer generally live as did their ancestors, they now depend on jobs, which are few and far between.

Attempts at farm land redistribution in places like Zimbabwe failed to take into consideration that the people receiving the lands had no experience in modern commercial farming, nor have banks been willing to assist farmers in acquiring adequate tools, thus the agricultural output of these lands has dropped precipitously.

Meanwhile in other parts of Africa large foreign agribusiness is increasingly leasing large tracts of land and creating pollution for the surrounding villages, aggressively confiscating cattle for trespass, and not providing local employment. Some things never change.

Africa is Africa and was impoverished long before colonialism. Of course it’s been exploited and by the very people who could get the wealth out of the ground. But moving on, Africa now isn’t colonized, South Africa is now one of the most dangerous countries in the world and Zimbabwe is a Marxist cess-pit. You can’t blame that on the western world any more. Decades into independence and Africa still has to be fed with foreign aid. Africa can't hack it in the modern world.

Libhater
04-19-2014, 07:07 AM
Africa is Africa and was impoverished long before colonialism. Of course it’s been exploited and by the very people who could get the wealth out of the ground. But moving on, Africa now isn’t colonized, South Africa is now one of the most dangerous countries in the world and Zimbabwe is a Marxist cess-pit. You can’t blame that on the western world any more. Decades into independence and Africa still has to be fed with foreign aid. Africa can't hack it in the modern world.


Yeah, and murders have skyrocketed since the ANC took control in 1994. Oh how SA
would be so much better off if they still had the British calling the shots.

Refugee
04-19-2014, 07:09 AM
Hey, the same can probably be said of the white people you have known in your lifetime, proportionally. I take people as I find them. Color, ethnicity and culture don't come into it. You are either a decent person or not. I don't play favorites.

You do Doc, you just don't realise it. I remember a sociology professor talking about this years ago. Enter a room full of people having a party, 90% black and 10% white. If you're white you'll immediately identify and approach people of the same race and culture, and the same if you're black. All this, 'I haven't got a racist, culturalist bone in my body' and 'I'm a citizen of the world' is nonsense. You were born into a culture and it's yours for life. Go where you want, you'll always keep your American culture and values.

Gerrard Winstanley
04-19-2014, 07:12 AM
You do Doc, you just don't realise it. I remember a sociology professor talking about this years ago. Enter a room full of people having a party, 90% black and 10% white. If you're white you'll immediately identify and approach people of the same race and culture, and the same if you're black. All this, 'I haven't got a racist, culturalist bone in my body' and 'I'm a citizen of the world' is nonsense. You were born into a culture and it's yours for life. Go where you want, you'll always keep your American culture and values.
Not everyone places such a social emphasis on race.

Akula
04-19-2014, 08:09 AM
You know what I find amazing is that so many minorities have created division and in essence a new "skin color," under the banners of gangs. This they kill over at the drop of a sign or the color of a scarf. Like the Crips and the Bloods. Wrong color in the right neighborhood and you could die.

...but that's not a problem. What IS a problem and gets the govt attention is some white rancher in nevada who opposes federal tyranny. Disproportionate crime rates and murder is fine...Cattle grazing on disputed land must be STOPPED!..IMMEDIATELY!
This country is finished.

Akula
04-19-2014, 08:35 AM
Not counting the famous civil rights activists, there have been numerous musicians, singers, actors, athletes and inventors & scientists that have brought great value to America. Here are a few of the inventors & scientists, since I'm sure you can recall the names of the rest:
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/bhmscientists1.html

I debunked most of that fraudulent list from that exact same website in post #1108 and #1109, page 111 of the thread "Posters I Miss"
Sorry I don't know how to link to those posts.

Essentially most of your list are lies about negroes claiming credit for things they didn't invent and I proved it.

No name calling or insults..just go read the posts I referred to so I don't have to re post them here.

Mister D
04-19-2014, 08:36 AM
You do Doc, you just don't realise it. I remember a sociology professor talking about this years ago. Enter a room full of people having a party, 90% black and 10% white. If you're white you'll immediately identify and approach people of the same race and culture, and the same if you're black. All this, 'I haven't got a racist, culturalist bone in my body' and 'I'm a citizen of the world' is nonsense. You were born into a culture and it's yours for life. Go where you want, you'll always keep your American culture and values.

Exactly. Well said. Housing and school attendance patterns demonstrate it.

Akula
04-19-2014, 08:49 AM
Jazz, blues, gospel, soul, funk, country and even rock music.
Louis Armstrong (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/larmstrong.htm) - Musician and composer of jazz music, known as one of the founding fathers of jazz.
Chuck Berry (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/chuckberry.htm) - Blues and rock and roll guitarist and vocalist.
James Brown (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/jamesbrown.htm) - Vocalist and keyboardist of Soul, R&B, Funk, Pop and Dance music genres.
Ray Charles (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/raycharles.htm) - Known as "The Genius," he was a gospel singer/songwriter and pianist.
Nat King Cole (http://musiced.about.com/od/singersvocalists/p/natkingcole.htm) - He started out as a pianist and later became known as a vocalist.
John Coltrane (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/coltrane.htm) - Influential tenor jazz saxophonist.
Edmond Dede (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/blackhistory2.htm) - Violin prodigy and Orchestra Conductor at the Alcazar Theatre for 27 years.
Duke Ellington (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/dukeellington.htm) - Composer, bandleader and jazz pianist, fondly called "The Duke."
Ella Fitzgerald (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/ellafitzgerald.htm) - Known as "The First Lady of Song" and for her incredible scat-singing.
Dizzy Gillespie (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/gillespie.htm) - One of the founding fathers of jazz and one of the inventors of bebop.
Billie Holiday (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/billieholiday.htm) - Dubbed "Lady Day," she was one of the foremost blues singers in history known for her soulful voice.
Francis Johnson (http://musiced.about.com/od/lessonsandtips/p/blackhist1.htm) - The inventor of cotillions and was the first major band master in the US.
Scott Joplin (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/joplin.htm) - Known as the "King of Ragtime" due to his classic rags for the piano.
B.B. King (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/bbking.htm) - Known as "The King of the Blues."
Charlie "Bird" Parker (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/parker.htm) - Influenced the development of "bop" in the 1940s and was one of the greatest improvising soloists in jazz.
Florence Beatrice Price (http://musiced.about.com/od/blackhistorymonth/p/florenceprice.htm) - The first African-American woman composer whose work was performed by a leading US orchestra.
Ma Rainey (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/joeoliver.htm) - Known as the first great blues singer, she made over 100 recordings under the Paramount label.
Bessie Smith (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/bessiesmith.htm) - Known as "Empress of the Blues," one of the greatest blues singers of the 1920s.
Sarah Vaughan (http://musiced.about.com/od/20thcentury/p/sarahvaughan.htm) - One of the greatest jazz vocalists in history whose career spanned almost 50 years.
Fats Waller (http://musiced.about.com/od/famousmusicians1/p/fatswaller.htm) - Jazz organist, pianist, singer, composer, conductor and bandleader of small bands during the 1930s.
Jimi_Hendrix (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_Hendrix) - one of the most influential electric guitarists in the history of popular music, and one of the most celebrated musicians of the 20th century



First of all, it is important to mention the USA 2010 census (http://www.census.gov/2010census/data/) data*, according to which:
Whites constitute 72.4% of the population
Blacks constitute 12.6% of the population
The ratio is thus 5.75:1


1. Rape:

The rape rates, from the years 1996 to 2008, can be found here:
1. http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/c...ous/cvus42.pdf (http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus/previous/cvus42.pdf)
2. http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/c...ent/cv0842.pdf (http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus/current/cv0842.pdf)

The averages for all the years are as follows:
All victims: 219,372
White victims: 180,560
Black victims: 38,812
-----------------------------
All white rapists: 131,351
All black rapists: 52,908
White on black rapists: 1,869
Black on white rapists: 21,401

It is thus:
- 14.28 times more likely that any woman will be raped by a black man than a white man.

- 65.82 times more likely that a white woman will be raped by a black man than a black woman by a white man.

Some interesting observations:
For the years 1997, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008, there were ZERO white on black rapes reported.
When during 2003 to 2008 white men raped zero black women, blacks raped 131,413 white women and 148,343 black women!

In 2005, blacks even outnumbered whites on the number of rapes! 74,080 rapes were committed by blacks, whereas only 49,613 were committed by whites! That is 1.49 times more or 8,57 times more in proportion to the demographics.

2. Homicide by strangers:

The homicide rates** where the offenders were strangers, from the years 1976 to 2005, can be found here, on page 72:
http://bjsdata.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/htius.pdf

The averages for all the years are as follows:
White on white stranger homicides: 41.64%
White on black stranger homicides: 5.08%
Black on black stranger homicides: 33.23%
Black on white stranger homicides: 18.77%

It is thus:
- 6.4 times more likely that any person will be murdered by a black stranger than a white stranger.

- 21.25 times more likely that a white person will be murdered by a black stranger than a black person by a white stranger.

One can also see that blacks commit more than half of all stranger murders, when they are only 12.6% of the population.


http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/table-43

Now don't pretend you can't understand percentages or how per capita works. These are all FBI and DOJ stats. Unimpeachable.

Matty
04-19-2014, 08:51 AM
So do prisons. Blacks, whites, Hispanics all self segregate!

Akula
04-19-2014, 08:51 AM
Not everyone places such a social emphasis on race.

The U.S. govt does. They have myriad s of laws exclusively aimed at advancing minorities over whites. You know that, right?

Refugee
04-19-2014, 08:54 AM
Not everyone places such a social emphasis on race.

They do though. It's why wherever you go you'll find ex-pat clubs and associations. You'll be told where the 'foreigners' hang out and if you want to emigrate you won't be asking a Jamaican, but another American who lives there and is aware of the cultural differences. If you buy a house, it won't be in a black neighbourhood either. Your culture will influence your decisions, just as it does mine and every emigrant I know.

Gerrard Winstanley
04-19-2014, 09:27 AM
The U.S. govt does. They have myriad s of laws exclusively aimed at advancing minorities over whites. You know that, right?
We're not talking about government policy here.

Gerrard Winstanley
04-19-2014, 09:32 AM
They do though. It's why wherever you go you'll find ex-pat clubs and associations. You'll be told where the 'foreigners' hang out and if you want to emigrate you won't be asking a Jamaican, but another American who lives there and is aware of the cultural differences. If you buy a house, it won't be in a black neighbourhood either. Your culture will influence your decisions, just as it does mine and every emigrant I know.
That probably applies where isolated cultures are concerned, but most people find themselves in homogeneous neighborhoods and mixing in monocultural circles as a result of common socioeconomic circumstances. Plenty of people readily forge connections outside of their racial group, although the individuals they befriend are near-universally of a similar social, as opposed to ethnic composition.

Akula
04-19-2014, 10:07 AM
We're not talking about government policy here.

We are talking about race, though and the govt has and enforces laws that specify benefits ONLY be awarded to certain races.

Gerrard Winstanley
04-19-2014, 10:21 AM
We are talking about race, though and the govt has and enforces laws that specify benefits ONLY be awarded to certain races.
Agreed. I'd be behind any serious effort to repeal such legislation.

Dr. Who
04-19-2014, 10:34 AM
You may not think it to be so, but I don't play favorites when it comes to appreciating the indiviidual for what they contribute to society or
for what type of soul they portray. For instance, I have a great appreciation for the black Ben Carson, and will support him if he decides to
run for the presidency. Some of my favorite economists, historians, politicians etc. just happen to be black like a Thomas Sowell, Ben Carson,
Walter Williams, Bill Cosby, Shelby Steele. Oh, did I mention they're all Conservatives, except maybe Mr. Cosby?

The reason I tend to personally segregate in my life is because I feel more comfortable being with other WHITE people as
we have much in common. For instance, I tend to spend more time with my family members then I would mingling in an
all-black ghetto with people I would have nothing in common with.
This is just common sense to me.
You have a right to associate with whom you please. I live in a very mixed very urban community. People here share similar values irrespective of ethnicity or color. On the other hand there are some areas where I also wouldn't feel comfortable.

Dr. Who
04-19-2014, 11:03 AM
You do Doc, you just don't realise it. I remember a sociology professor talking about this years ago. Enter a room full of people having a party, 90% black and 10% white. If you're white you'll immediately identify and approach people of the same race and culture, and the same if you're black. All this, 'I haven't got a racist, culturalist bone in my body' and 'I'm a citizen of the world' is nonsense. You were born into a culture and it's yours for life. Go where you want, you'll always keep your American culture and values.
I'm not phobic about other cultures. Values cross ethnic and cultural lines. So it really doesn't matter what culture people come from, it is the values that bring people together or push them apart. What is culture? It is language, food, music, literature and often religion. Once people from other cultures learn the English language, their food, music and literature are not things that separate them from others. Many people like to enjoy the foods and music of other cultures. Fundamentalist religions, however, can be divisive, but they do that within the American culture as well. Economics can have a bearing on values, particularly where it impacts education. In that respect, I doubt that I am apt to hang out with poor semi-literate white hillbillies, despite a shared language and racial background. I doubt we'd have much in common and I'm not attracted by the food or the music either.

Dr. Who
04-19-2014, 11:12 AM
You do Doc, you just don't realise it. I remember a sociology professor talking about this years ago. Enter a room full of people having a party, 90% black and 10% white. If you're white you'll immediately identify and approach people of the same race and culture, and the same if you're black. All this, 'I haven't got a racist, culturalist bone in my body' and 'I'm a citizen of the world' is nonsense. You were born into a culture and it's yours for life. Go where you want, you'll always keep your American culture and values.
If I walk into a party, I gravitate to the people that I know first, irrespective of color. I attend mixed parties all the time and I don't have a problem socializing with non-whites that I don't know. The guests at the parties that I attend don't have racial hang-ups. I generally don't go to parties where I know no one - that's called crashing.

Bob
04-19-2014, 11:14 AM
If I walk into a party, I gravitate to the people that I know first, irrespective of color. I attend mixed parties all the time and I don't have a problem socializing with non-whites that I don't know. The guests at the parties that I attend don't have racial hang-ups. I generally don't go to parties where I know no one - that's called crashing.

Do you go to parties where the people are poor or have crime records?

I suspect where you go, the people make a good deal of money.

Bob
04-19-2014, 11:20 AM
I'm not phobic about other cultures. Values cross ethnic and cultural lines. So it really doesn't matter what culture people come from, it is the values that bring people together or push them apart. What is culture? It is language, food, music, literature and often religion. Once people from other cultures learn the English language, their food, music and literature are not things that separate them from others. Many people like to enjoy the foods and music of other cultures. Fundamentalist religions, however, can be divisive, but they do that within the American culture as well. Economics can have a bearing on values, particularly where it impacts education. In that respect, I doubt that I am apt to hang out with poor semi-literate white hillbillies, despite a shared language and racial background. I doubt we'd have much in common and I'm not attracted by the food or the music either.


I had not seen this when I asked a question as to whom you hang out with.

Sure, you hang around with money.

Take this guy who you probably would not talk to. I talk to him though

Black as the ace of spades. His way of getting around is his bicycle. He does work for some company but not at a very skilled job. He served in Vietnam and also Germany. He has actually brought as a gift, things I once wore in the Army but got rid of long ago. I now value my old unit patch a lot, but not when I got out of the Army. We chat about things like this, on this forum.

He was telling me just the other day how republicans are best for negroes. And the man is cool. And he can hold a decent conversation and does not get pissed off if we talk about the negro problems.

I can count on him to always say at some point, GOD BLESS YOU.

The simple truth is I think the war had a major impact on him. Maybe when he was young, he was wild and got put in jail. But the man treats me fine and I return the favor.

Bob
04-19-2014, 11:27 AM
First of all, it is important to mention the USA 2010 census (http://www.census.gov/2010census/data/) data*, according to which:
Whites constitute 72.4% of the population
Blacks constitute 12.6% of the population
The ratio is thus 5.75:1


1. Rape:

The rape rates, from the years 1996 to 2008, can be found here:
1. http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/c...ous/cvus42.pdf (http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus/previous/cvus42.pdf)
2. http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/c...ent/cv0842.pdf (http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus/current/cv0842.pdf)

The averages for all the years are as follows:
All victims: 219,372
White victims: 180,560
Black victims: 38,812
-----------------------------
All white rapists: 131,351
All black rapists: 52,908
White on black rapists: 1,869
Black on white rapists: 21,401

It is thus:
- 14.28 times more likely that any woman will be raped by a black man than a white man.

- 65.82 times more likely that a white woman will be raped by a black man than a black woman by a white man.

Some interesting observations:
For the years 1997, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008, there were ZERO white on black rapes reported.
When during 2003 to 2008 white men raped zero black women, blacks raped 131,413 white women and 148,343 black women!

In 2005, blacks even outnumbered whites on the number of rapes! 74,080 rapes were committed by blacks, whereas only 49,613 were committed by whites! That is 1.49 times more or 8,57 times more in proportion to the demographics.

2. Homicide by strangers:

The homicide rates** where the offenders were strangers, from the years 1976 to 2005, can be found here, on page 72:
http://bjsdata.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/htius.pdf

The averages for all the years are as follows:
White on white stranger homicides: 41.64%
White on black stranger homicides: 5.08%
Black on black stranger homicides: 33.23%
Black on white stranger homicides: 18.77%

It is thus:
- 6.4 times more likely that any person will be murdered by a black stranger than a white stranger.

- 21.25 times more likely that a white person will be murdered by a black stranger than a black person by a white stranger.

One can also see that blacks commit more than half of all stranger murders, when they are only 12.6% of the population.


http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/table-43

Now don't pretend you can't understand percentages or how per capita works. These are all FBI and DOJ stats. Unimpeachable.

The numbers are there.

I have no idea why some whites live in total denial.

If you want a good book on this, read Freakeconomics. It is not a racist book but you do learn things like the above.

Denial is wrong. It does not help Negroes nor whites.

Dr. Who
04-19-2014, 11:28 AM
Do you go to parties where the people are poor or have crime records?

I suspect where you go, the people make a good deal of money.
As I mentioned before, people with similar values are likely to run in the same social circles, so in answer to your question, no I don't hang out with the criminal element. Poverty in and of itself is not an impediment from my perspective, but lack of education does make a difference. I come originally from an art background - i.e. painting, drawing, sculpture etcetera. Artists and musicians are often just scraping by - poor by any definition, but still part of my social circle.

Dr. Who
04-19-2014, 11:37 AM
I had not seen this when I asked a question as to whom you hang out with.

Sure, you hang around with money.

Take this guy who you probably would not talk to. I talk to him though

Black as the ace of spades. His way of getting around is his bicycle. He does work for some company but not at a very skilled job. He served in Vietnam and also Germany. He has actually brought as a gift, things I once wore in the Army but got rid of long ago. I now value my old unit patch a lot, but not when I got out of the Army. We chat about things like this, on this forum.

He was telling me just the other day how republicans are best for negroes. And the man is cool. And he can hold a decent conversation and does not get pissed off if we talk about the negro problems.

I can count on him to always say at some point, GOD BLESS YOU.

The simple truth is I think the war had a major impact on him. Maybe when he was young, he was wild and got put in jail. But the man treats me fine and I return the favor.
Some of the people in my circle have money, most are what you would call middle class, and some are actually poor. Nevertheless we share similar values, though not necessarily similar politics.