Let's Talk Baseball

[Conley]

How's this for a box score?




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W: R. Soriano (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/4600/rafael-soriano) (2-0)
L: A. Aceves (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/29223/alfredo-aceves) (0-1)



:shocked:

[Alias]

I saw a perfect game yesterday against my Mariners. The story of young man who pitched is a classic. Languishing in the minors after Tommy John surgery. Passed around from team to team. Then for one brief moment in time he is in the zone. Amazing to watch.

[Captain Obvious]

Baseball - ugh.

I'd rather watch midgets fucking.

[Alias]

Baseball - ugh.

I'd rather watch midgets fucking.

Well, baseball is a very intellectual game that requires thinking ahead 2-3 moves. Kinda like chess. Watching midgets fucking is much easier to understand.

[annata]

How's this for a box score?




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W: R. Soriano (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/4600/rafael-soriano) (2-0)
L: A. Aceves (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/29223/alfredo-aceves) (0-1)



:shocked:wow. prettty amazing.
Q. What's the definition of "clinging to false hopes?"
A. being a Baltimore Orioles fan - (can't help it i recall like 40 years ago my home town, they actually had a decent team)

Still hate the Yankees, I'm cool with the Red Sox.

[Vilifier of Zombies]

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W: R. Soriano (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/4600/rafael-soriano) (2-0)
L: A. Aceves (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/29223/alfredo-aceves) (0-1)



:shocked:


It reads as if it's a disaster for the Red Sox giving up a 9 - 0 lead, that it was the Yankees is all the more better...

[Captain Obvious]

Well, baseball is a very intellectual game that requires thinking ahead 2-3 moves. Kinda like chess. Watching midgets fucking is much easier to understand.

Gee - no kidding, Socrates.

Too bad other sports don't involve developing strategies.

[Conley]

I saw a perfect game yesterday against my Mariners. The story of young man who pitched is a classic. Languishing in the minors after Tommy John surgery. Passed around from team to team. Then for one brief moment in time he is in the zone. Amazing to watch.

I never thought someone would throw a perfect game against a team with Ichiro (though he's really lost a step, hasn't he?).

Now had it been against my Padres, that would have been no surprise. :laugh:

[Conley]

wow. prettty amazing.
Q. What's the definition of "clinging to false hopes?"
A. being a Baltimore Orioles fan - (can't help it i recall like 40 years ago my home town, they actually had a decent team)

Still hate the Yankees, I'm cool with the Red Sox.

I'm a Padre fan...so yeah, I can relate. Heck, even the Nationals are putting some nice stuff together. Not so much here in San Diego.

[Conley]

It reads as if it's a disaster for the Red Sox giving up a 9 - 0 lead, that it was the Yankees is all the more better...

This isn't Bobby V's fault, but I think with him as manager this season won't go well for them. Can't say it bothers me too much.

[MMC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgmzXrwkjnY&feature=related

:shakeshead:

[MMC]

I think Roseanne declared War on Baseball, Apple Pie and Chevrolet.

[RollingWave]

I saw a perfect game yesterday against my Mariners. The story of young man who pitched is a classic. Languishing in the minors after Tommy John surgery. Passed around from team to team. Then for one brief moment in time he is in the zone. Amazing to watch.

Or, it's the simple story that the Mariners can't hit water if they fell off a boat :evil: jokes aside, Humber's story is pretty amazing though, and all the more face palm to the whole Johan Santana trade.


How's this for a box score?




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W: R. Soriano (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/4600/rafael-soriano) (2-0)
L: A. Aceves (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/29223/alfredo-aceves) (0-1)



:shocked:

Alfredo Aceves, true Yankee (mole) :grin:

[Conley]

Alfredo Aceves, true Yankee (mole) :grin:

With the money they have at their disposal it wouldn't surprise me a bit if they were paying guys on other teams as well. :grin:

[RollingWave]

With the money they have at their disposal it wouldn't surprise me a bit if they were paying guys on other teams as well. :grin:

New market inefficency!

[MMC]

"What".....baseball is not over? Damn their seasons are way to long. :tongue:

Btw.....thats called a sweep. With the No Hitter by The White Sox. It's also called Sweet! :kiss: :evil:

[OFBUACMKA]

I'm a Padre fan...so yeah, I can relate. Heck, even the Nationals are putting some nice stuff together. Not so much here in San Diego.

Humber pirched a no-hitter(perfect game) the Padres HAVE no hitters.

[Conley]

Humber pirched a no-hitter(perfect game) the Padres HAVE no hitters.

That's ok, we have no pitching or fielding either. We're the most consistent team in the majors. :grin:

[Alias]

Gee - no kidding, Socrates.

Too bad other sports don't involve developing strategies.

I never said they didn't. You're the one here who doesn't understand baseball, not me. Why don't you post in a topic about something else you don't understand and magnify your ignorance some more.

[Alias]

Humber pirched a no-hitter(perfect game) the Padres HAVE no hitters.

He had a 3-2 count on the last hitter and threw a slider that was ball four, but the hitter tried to check his swing, but he went too far. The hitter was convinced he would not throw a slider for ball four and was looking fastball all the way. He went for it and history was made. Beautiful to watch.

[Conley]

He had a 3-2 count on the last hitter and threw a slider that was ball four, but the hitter tried to check his swing, but he went too far. The hitter was convinced he would not throw a slider for ball four and was looking fastball all the way. He went for it and history was made. Beautiful to watch.

That was a ballsy pitch (no pun intended! :laugh:)...big onions to take a chance like that.

[OFBUACMKA]

Interesting fact I saw on FOX Sports: 7 ex- NY Mets have now pitched perfect games (Humber was a Met). The NY Mets have not had a no-hitter, much less a perfect game.

[MMC]

You know what they call that.....don't you. It's almost like Obamacare. Met-life! :grin:

[Conley]

Interesting fact I saw on FOX Sports: 7 ex- NY Mets have now pitched perfect games (Humber was a Met). The NY Mets have not had a no-hitter, much less a perfect game.

:laugh: That's wild.

[OFBUACMKA]

You know what they call that.....don't you. It's almost like Obamacare. Met-life! :grin:

The the Mets play in a neighborhood called "FLUSHING"...just saying...

[Conley]

It all makes sense now.

[MMC]

Yeah with that note.....guess Flushing does aptly describe whats happened to the Mets. Do you think it was because they had a Bad Strawberry in the Bunch? :grin:

[OFBUACMKA]

Yeah with that note.....guess Flushing does aptly describe whats happened to the Mets. Do you think it was because they had a Bad Strawberry in the Bunch? :grin:

No - because the owners believed that they had "Made Off" with all kinds of money.

[MMC]

No - because the owners believed that they had "Made Off" with all kinds of money.

I will bet they thought it was a Gooden thing to be Rollins in all that Dough. :wink: :tongue:

[Alias]

That was a ballsy pitch (no pun intended! :laugh:)...big onions to take a chance like that.

Yeah. The catcher called it and his thinking was if he walks, the no hitter is still intact. But, yeah, it was fun to watch.

[MMC]

:needpictures:......:dink:<<<<<sound of a Bunt. :toothy10:

[OFBUACMKA]

I will bet they thought it was a Gooden thing to be Rollins in all that Dough. :wink: :tongue:

Speaking of Gooden - came up with the mets, pitched a no-hitter for the Yankees.

[MMC]

Speaking of Gooden - came up with the mets, pitched a no-hitter for the Yankees.

Yeah and didnt Cone pitch for the Mets too before he became a Yankee Doodle Dandy? I can't stand the Yankees now. Maybe back in the day. To me they just try to buy their way into the playoffs. Plus why should they be allowed to have the largest Cap for all of baseball.

The Whie Sox has the Yankees number.....but they can never get there to take them on. Chicago Sports teams don't ever pay out the money Like the East and West Coast teams do.

[OFBUACMKA]

Yeah and didnt Cone pitch for the Mets too before he became a Yankee Doodle Dandy? I can't stand the Yankees now. Maybe back in the day. To me they just try to buy their way into the playoffs. Plus why should they be allowed to have the largest Cap for all of baseball.

The Whie Sox has the Yankees number.....but they can never get there to take them on. Chicago Sports teams don't ever pay out the money Like the East and West Coast teams do.

The truth is that most large-market teams throw big-bucks contracts at ball players. The Yankees are called out for it because they seem to get more results for their money.

The Marlins have broken a long-standing rule about large contracts and gave Jose Reyes a huge contract. The Tigers paid a fortune for Prince Feilder. The Mets would, but they have money troubles, and their owners are idiots. Now that the Cubs have Theo Epstein as GM, look for them to start throwing around large numbers as well. (let's hope he's learned his lesson with Carl Crawford)

[Conley]

Crawford may still turn out, don't you think?

The Cubs have been overpaying for years, and up until recently I always thought the Marlins did decently with such a small payroll in a tough division.

[OFBUACMKA]

Crawford may still turn out, don't you think?

The Cubs have been overpaying for years, and up until recently I always thought the Marlins did decently with such a small payroll in a tough division.

I like Crawford's talent - not sure if Boston is right for him.

What the Marlins are doing makes sense: They have a brand-new Billion-dollar ballpark, the Phillies and Braves are aging, and the Mets aren't going anywhere - they are positioning themselves to make a run for the division, and hopefully fill those seats in South Beach. Reyes is not the cornerstone to build a team on, however. He has an attitude problem, and gets injurred easily.

[Conley]

I agree about Reyes...more flash than substance. Not a cornerstone at all. I can't believe a guy like Fielder gets that amount of money when one look at him speaks volumes about his discipline. How can a professional athlete let himself go to hell like that? That's baseball I guess. :laugh:

[OFBUACMKA]

I agree about Reyes...more flash than substance. Not a cornerstone at all. I can't believe a guy like Fielder gets that amount of money when one look at him speaks volumes about his discipline. How can a professional athlete let himself go to hell like that? That's baseball I guess. :laugh:

"Prince" is the spitting image of his father, body-wise. It didn't hinder Cecil. He's a big stick, not much of a first-baseman. look for him to end up as a full-time DH.

[Conley]

Yeah, his joints sure aren't going to hold up. I think both could have been better if they weren't as weighed down, and the falling out between the two is downright sad.

[OFBUACMKA]

Yeah, his joints sure aren't going to hold up. I think both could have been better if they weren't as weighed down, and the falling out between the two is downright sad.


Agreed, but I don't like to dwell on what should be a family issue only.


Several ballplayers have weight issues. CC Sabathia comes to mind presently. It is what it is. It's a long season, and I'd guess that eating is a better obsession than alcohol or drug abuse.

[Conley]

That's all very true.

Even worse is when you have a whole clubhouse addicted to fried chicken and beer problem like Boston last year. What a joke that was.

:laugh:

[OFBUACMKA]

That's all very true.

Even worse is when you have a whole clubhouse addicted to fried chicken and beer problem like Boston last year. What a joke that was.

:laugh:

Luckily, their team collapsed, and the dugout bench didn't. :blowup:

[MMC]

:wtf20: ......:English: .....:glasses12:......:grin20:

[OFBUACMKA]

:wtf20: ......:English: .....:glasses12:......:grin20:

What are you commenting on?..or is it.. On what are you commenting?

[MMC]

What are you commenting on?..or is it.. On what are you commenting?


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:laugh: I was talking about this strange language you guys were talking about in here. :wink: For a minute there I thought some formula was to be developed. Plus if you guys keep it up.....I was thinking about Stealing Home Plate. :glasses6:

[OFBUACMKA]

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:laugh: I was talking about this strange language you guys were talking about in here. :wink: For a minute there I thought some formula was to be developed. Plus if you guys keep it up.....I was thinking about Stealing Home Plate. :glasses6:

Baseball is a universal language.
Put home plate back - I'm up.

[RollingWave]

I agree about Reyes...more flash than substance. Not a cornerstone at all. I can't believe a guy like Fielder gets that amount of money when one look at him speaks volumes about his discipline. How can a professional athlete let himself go to hell like that? That's baseball I guess. :laugh:

Well Reyes' problem is that he's too injury prone, all the talent in the world aint gonna do nothing if it's on the disable list... I'm quite surprise that the Marlins paid him though, does that mean they're letting Hanely Ramriez (who is putting up sure fired inner circle hall of fame numbers so far) go ?

Crawford's a risky bet, his never been a truely dominant bat and his offensive value lies largely in his speed. but it's hard to envision a non Ricky Henderson stealing a lot of bases well into his 30s.

As for Prince Fielder, it's hard to say , baseball certainly allow a much wider range of folks to succeed than other sports.... just take a look at Gregg Maddux and Randy Johnson, the two couldn't possibly be more different. and a good physic doesn't always translate into good health either anyway... look at Ken Griffey Jr... meanwhile CC Sabatiah have been much more healthy than a boat load of better "shaped" pitchers

[OFBUACMKA]

Well Reyes' problem is that he's too injury prone, all the talent in the world aint gonna do nothing if it's on the disable list... I'm quite surprise that the Marlins paid him though, does that mean they're letting Hanely Ramriez (who is putting up sure fired inner circle hall of fame numbers so far) go ?

Crawford's a risky bet, his never been a truely dominant bat and his offensive value lies largely in his speed. but it's hard to envision a non Ricky Henderson stealing a lot of bases well into his 30s.

As for Prince Fielder, it's hard to say , baseball certainly allow a much wider range of folks to succeed than other sports.... just take a look at Gregg Maddux and Randy Johnson, the two couldn't possibly be more different. and a good physic doesn't always translate into good health either anyway... look at Ken Griffey Jr... meanwhile CC Sabatiah have been much more healthy than a boat load of better "shaped" pitchers

Handley Ramirez moved to Third Base.

[MMC]

Baseball is a universal language.
Put home plate back - I'm up.


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Oh awwight.....

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But I'm not catching any Spit-balls..... ya hear me. :laughing11:

[OFBUACMKA]

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Oh awwight.....

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But I'm not catching any Spit-balls..... ya hear me. :laughing11:

The least you could have done is clean the plate off...

[Alias]

Looks like the Seattle Mariners got the best of the Michael Pineda deal. He's out for the year at least, while the Seattle Mariners go the Yankee's top hitting prospect, Jesus Montero.

[dsolo802]

Well, baseball is a very intellectual game that requires thinking ahead 2-3 moves. Kinda like chess. Watching midgets fucking is much easier to understand.Lot of moving parts with midgets.

[Conley]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/18/Gaedel.jpg

Edward Carl Gaedel (June 8, 1925 – June 18, 1961) was an American with dwarfism who became famous for participating in a Major League Baseball game.

Gaedel (some sources say the family name may actually have been Gaedele[1]) gained recognition in the second game of a St. Louis Browns doubleheader on Sunday, Aug. 19, 1951. Weighing 29.5 kg (65 pounds), and standing 109 cm (3 feet 7 inches) tall, Gaedel became the shortest player in the history of the Major Leagues. He made a single plate appearance and was walked with four consecutive balls before being replaced by a pinch-runner at first base. His jersey, bearing the uniform number "⅛", is displayed in the Baseball Hall of Fame.

St. Louis Brown's owner Bill Veeck, in his 1962 autobiography Veeck -- As in Wreck, said of Gaedel, "He was, by golly, the best darn midget who ever played big-league ball. He was also the only one."[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Gaedel

[dsolo802]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/18/Gaedel.jpg

Edward Carl Gaedel (June 8, 1925 – June 18, 1961) was an American with dwarfism who became famous for participating in a Major League Baseball game.

Gaedel (some sources say the family name may actually have been Gaedele[1]) gained recognition in the second game of a St. Louis Browns doubleheader on Sunday, Aug. 19, 1951. Weighing 29.5 kg (65 pounds), and standing 109 cm (3 feet 7 inches) tall, Gaedel became the shortest player in the history of the Major Leagues. He made a single plate appearance and was walked with four consecutive balls before being replaced by a pinch-runner at first base. His jersey, bearing the uniform number "⅛", is displayed in the Baseball Hall of Fame.

St. Louis Brown's owner Bill Veeck, in his 1962 autobiography Veeck -- As in Wreck, said of Gaedel, "He was, by golly, the best darn midget who ever played big-league ball. He was also the only one."[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_GaedelI guess Pedroia is the closest we have to a midget today, and a mighty one at that. :)

[Conley]

:laugh: Yes indeed. Mighty Mouse!

[dsolo802]

:laugh: Yes indeed. Mighty Mouse!
Are you a sox fan?

[Conley]

Are you a sox fan?

Hmm. How to answer?

The good news is that I dislike the Yankees.

The bad news is that I dislike the Red Sox even MORE than the Yankees.

:)

[dsolo802]

Hmm. How to answer?

The good news is that I dislike the Yankees.

The bad news is that I dislike the Red Sox even MORE than the Yankees.

:)That is a fair answer inasmuch as there is more than a fair amount of arrogance connected to both teams.

[Conley]

Given the results on the field, I understand the arrogance. The payrolls frustrate me most of all, and being a Padre fan it begins to ruin my affection for the sport. It's tiring to see our best players always leaving for greener pastures. Losing Adrian Gonzalez was a tough blow even though everyone knew it would happen. It's not the Red Sox fault our ownership and organization is a mess, but the salary disparity is just once more obstacle to overcome.

[dsolo802]

Given the results on the field, I understand the arrogance. The payrolls frustrate me most of all, and being a Padre fan it begins to ruin my affection for the sport. It's tiring to see our best players always leaving for greener pastures. Losing Adrian Gonzalez was a tough blow even though everyone knew it would happen. It's not the Red Sox fault our ownership and organization is a mess, but the salary disparity is just once more obstacle to overcome.Yet another example of how money as king just doesn't work.

[Conley]

Yet another example of how money as king just doesn't work.

It works well for the 1% - the Yankees and Red Sox. :wink:

[dsolo802]

It works well for the 1% - the Yankees and Red Sox. :wink:I like the sox, and liked it better the way it was before - way more.

[Conley]

I like the sox, and liked it better the way it was before - way more.

I hear you.

[dsolo802]

I hear you.The Sox are a required affliction if you're from New England, handed down from father to son, . . . like a genetic defect.

[Conley]

:laugh: I used to like them back when they were lovable losers. I had my doubts about Ortiz and ManRam, but they got their rings which I think most Boston fans would be willing to do anything for. I'm not judging, can't say I would have felt any differently were I a New Englander - I've seen that religion first hand.

[dsolo802]

:laugh: I used to like them back when they were lovable losers. I had my doubts about Ortiz and ManRam, but they got their rings which I think most Boston fans would be willing to do anything for. I'm not judging, can't say I would have felt any differently were I a New Englander - I've seen that religion first hand.In my lifetime alone, I saw them lose three game 7s, 67, 75 and 86. To me, the 75 series with the Big Red Machine is still the all time best - even though they lost.

[Alias]

Lot of moving parts with midgets.

Too much effort to find 'em.

[Alias]

I guess Pedroia is the closest we have to a midget today, and a mighty one at that. :)

Pedroia is a stud. I want a guy like that on my team.

[dsolo802]

Pedroia is a stud. I want a guy like that on my team.We agree. Pound for pound the best ball player on the planet. Love to watch that guy work.

[Alias]

Seattle Mariners win 4 on the road and then lose 5. Young team for the most part. Wait until next year.

[MMC]

"What" Baseball season isn't over yet.....man their seasons are way to long. :wink: :laugh:

[Vilifier of Zombies]

The Rangers are looking good and the Yankees aren't - so long as they're on top of Boston or that Boston is dead last in the AL East, I'm alright with it, not gonna watch a whole lot of games but there is a balance so I'm not gonna fret to much about it.

[Alias]

I got to see a lot of the current rangers when they were just starting out. Spokane, Wa is the class A rookie league for the Texas Rangers and not far from me.

[Vilifier of Zombies]

I got to see a lot of the current rangers when they were just starting out. Spokane, Wa is the class A rookie league for the Texas Rangers and not far from me.

I liked Yakima, Spokane not so much, but it's within driving distance to Northern Idaho, as far as I'm concerned, that's the nicest country in the US.

When we were living in New York I'd go to a few of the Cape Cod Legue games - time them with other summer attractions usually made the difference between a mediocre vacation to a great mini vacation.

They still don't compare to Yankees games though.

I like the Rangers though, when Nolan Ryan (my baseball hero) left the Astros to head up the Rangers, I became a fan by default.

[Alias]

I liked Yakima, Spokane not so much, but it's within driving distance to Northern Idaho, as far as I'm concerned, that's the nicest country in the US.

When we were living in New York I'd go to a few of the Cape Cod Legue games - time them with other summer attractions usually made the difference between a mediocre vacation to a great mini vacation.

They still don't compare to Yankees games though.

I like the Rangers though, when Nolan Ryan (my baseball hero) left the Astros to head up the Rangers, I became a fan by default.

I'm near Sandpoint, Idaho. Ever hang out around there?

[MMC]

I have a baseball Autographed by Ryan. Real not stamped. My one buddy lived in Irving Texas and is a big time Texas Rangers Fans. We would drive about a mile and be in Dallas. About 15 mins from the Stadium. He managed to get to go to a few games. He knew quite a few of the Rangers. As his OL worked at Caligula's. Which was down the Road from Baby Dolls. All the Dallas Sports Figures were always out and about around there.

He now moved out by Mesquite. So I take it he don't get in as much to see the games anymore.

[Alias]

I have a baseball Autographed by Ryan. Real not stamped. My one buddy lived in Irving Texas and is a big time Texas Rangers Fans. We would drive about a mile and be in Dallas. About 15 mins from the Stadium. He managed to get to go to a few games. He knew quite a few of the Rangers. As his OL worked at Caligula's. Which was down the Road from Baby Dolls. All the Dallas Sports Figures were always out and about around there.

He now moved out by Mesquite. So I take it he don't get in as much to see the games anymore.

Did you ever see the time rookie Robin Ventura (Current White Sox Manager) got hit by Ryan and thought it would be a good idea to go after Nolan Ryan. Bad idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUBeThPaZwo

[dsolo802]

Still hard to fathom the starting rotation of the '69 Mets: In addition to Nolan Ryan, Tom Seaver, Jerry Koosman, Gary Gentry - with Tug McGraw closing. I don't think there has ever been a better pitching staff.

[Vilifier of Zombies]

I'm near Sandpoint, Idaho. Ever hang out around there?

That's a little ways north from Coeur d'Alene, one of my uncles lives about ten miles from there - he's got a house overlooking the lake with a National Park for neighbors, I've driven through Sandpoint to go fishing at Okanagan Lake - I've got family all throughout Idaho though, most of them are near Sun Valley (barley and wheat farmers for Budweiser) - even an aunt that lives in Grangeville.

[Conley]

Mariano Rivera tears his ACL shagging BP balls. That is a tough break, hate to see it happen to him.

[MMC]

I heard some News today about them finding some Old footage of Babe Ruth when he was out Hunting. He was hunting birds and was like narrating the whole time. Whoever found that got him some money

[Alias]

Mariano Rivera tears his ACL shagging BP balls. That is a tough break, hate to see it happen to him.

I saw the video. That's gonna be hard to come back at his age. I wouldn't bet against him, though.

[Alias]

I heard some News today about them finding some Old footage of Babe Ruth when he was out Hunting. He was hunting birds and was like narrating the whole time. Whoever found that got him some money

Have you ever seen "Baseball", the documentary by Ken Burns. Excellent and lots of footage I never saw before of many players.

[MMC]

Nah.....I never got into Baseball to much except when I was a kid. Even my sons weren't into Baseball. Pretty much every other sport but baseball. I took them to a Couple of Cubs and White Sox's games as Each is a fan of the North Siders and South Siders. But that was it.

[Alias]

Nah.....I never got into Baseball to much except when I was a kid. Even my sons weren't into Baseball. Pretty much every other sport but baseball. I took them to a Couple of Cubs and White Sox's games as Each is a fan of the North Siders and South Siders. But that was it.

There is lots of footage of Babe Ruth in it. Shows him in Baltimore as a teenager when he signed with the Red Sox. He was a lean mean hitting and pitching machine.

[Conley]

OK, what's going on in the AL East and the O's?

[RollingWave]

OK, what's going on in the AL East and the O's?

Meh, O's / Jays tend to do well early in the season is nothing new.... though the O's are realistically improved, but I doubt they'll win the wild card or the division. though finishing above .500 for the first time in over a decade is within the realm of possiblity.

Speaking of the O's... today's game is a real LOL. 17 inning, the winning AND losing pitcher are both Position players :grin: I guess Chris Davis strikes out so much that he knows how to strike out other players too :grin:

[annata]

OK, what's going on in the AL East and the O's?

I don't know but i LOVE it !!! I'm a native Baltimore born, and still recall the glory days of the 60's ( beat Don Drysdale and the Dodgers -etc).

What a week !! Tom Petty concert !! My Birthday! AND the Birds are NOT in the cellar !!

* don't wake me from this dream*

[annata]

I heard some News today about them finding some Old footage of Babe Ruth when he was out Hunting. He was hunting birds and was like narrating the whole time. Whoever found that got him some money

I'd like to see that.

[Alias]

I don't know but i LOVE it !!! I'm a native Baltimore born, and still recall the glory days of the 60's ( beat Don Drysdale and the Dodgers -etc).

What a week !! Tom Petty concert !! My Birthday! AND the Birds are NOT in the cellar !!

* don't wake me from this dream*

You're on a roll. Enjoy it while it lasts.

[Conley]

Meh, O's / Jays tend to do well early in the season is nothing new.... though the O's are realistically improved, but I doubt they'll win the wild card or the division. though finishing above .500 for the first time in over a decade is within the realm of possiblity.

Speaking of the O's... today's game is a real LOL. 17 inning, the winning AND losing pitcher are both Position players :grin: I guess Chris Davis strikes out so much that he knows how to strike out other players too :grin:

:rofl: Ouch! Why is a Dodger fan talking so much smack about the poor O's ? Maybe it does go back to the 60s? :shocked: :grin:

[Alias]

:rofl: Ouch! Why is a Dodger fan talking so much smack about the poor O's ? Maybe it does go back to the 60s? :shocked: :grin:

Are you speaking of the 1966 World Series? One of the greatest pitching and defensive performances ever witnessed by human kind.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1966_WS.shtml

[Conley]

Are you speaking of the 1966 World Series? One of the greatest pitching and defensive performances ever witnessed by human kind.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1966_WS.shtml

Yes, I admit not remembering but Annata brought it up a few posts ago. That really is an amazing run for Baltimore over four games. 6 errors by the Dodgers in Game 2?

[Alias]

Yes, I admit not remembering but Annata brought it up a few posts ago. That really is an amazing run for Baltimore over four games. 6 errors by the Dodgers in Game 2?

Don Drysdale got beat twice, Koufax once, and Osteen once. All very good pitchers, but the Oriole pitchers were in the zone, for sure. Three straight shutouts. That was back when they played all the World Series games during the day. Didn't get to see all of it, but I certainly remember it.

[Conley]

Babe Ruth's house is up for sale:

Babe Ruth's home outside Boston is for sale.

The estate known as Home Plate Farm in Sudbury, Mass., is being offered for $1.65 million.

Ruth lived in the home from 1922 to 1926, after the Boston Red Sox had sent him to the New York Yankees, real estate broker Scott Adamson said.

The 5,000-square-foot, five-bedroom, 3½-bathroom home has undergone extensive renovations since the 1920s. Adamson said it now has a "dream kitchen."

But it also maintains many of the features from Ruth's time. One room even has burn marks on the floor that are said to be from Ruth's cigar ashes, Adamson said.

The property also includes a 5,000-square-foot barn with stables, office space, garage bays and a one-bedroom apartment.

Adamson calls it "a one-of-a-kind opportunity to own a piece of history."

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7900460/babe-ruth-former-home-boston-market-listed-165-million

[Alias]

Anyone notice the Mariners have beat the Tigers 4 straight?

[Alias]

Verlander tonight against the Mariners who have beaten the tigers 4 straight.

[Conley]

Guess we won't be seeing five. :grin: :evil:

[Alias]

Guess we won't be seeing five. :grin: :evil:

I'll be listening on the deck tonight. We're going to Minneapolis to visit my clan at the end of August when the Mariners come to town. Get to see the new Twins ballpark. When I was a kid I lived 2 blocks from the old Metropolitan Stadium. Back then we could wait by the visiting teams clubhouse door after the game to get autograhs. I met 'em all. Mantle, Maris, Ford, Berra, Stengel, Bobby Richardson, Killebrew, Aparicio, Early Wynn,. Even met Orlando Cepeda and Willie Mays when the Giants played an exhibition game there.

[Conley]

Very cool...that Target Field sure looks nice on TV. Not that I believe anything ESPN says but they've ranked that stadium experience as the best in at least a couple of years: http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/teamrankings/_/year/2010/category/stx#table

I'm not sure what's up with the Twins this year. Too much money tied up in Mauer and Morneau?

[Alias]

Very cool...that Target Field sure looks nice on TV. Not that I believe anything ESPN says but they've ranked that stadium experience as the best in at least a couple of years: http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/teamrankings/_/year/2010/category/stx#table

I'm not sure what's up with the Twins this year. Too much money tied up in Mauer and Morneau?

Neither of them are the hitters they were a couple years ago before injuries. The Twins never have a big payroll. They pretty much home grow everyone and dabble very little in the free agent market. Just a rebuilding time, as they say.

[RollingWave]

Josh Hamilton is on a MVP pace...... 5-5, *4* HR and a double tonight..

[Conley]

Neither of them are the hitters they were a couple years ago before injuries. The Twins never have a big payroll. They pretty much home grow everyone and dabble very little in the free agent market. Just a rebuilding time, as they say.

They never did have a big payroll but they shelled out big time on those two. The Padres as an example would have traded them or let them walk.

[Conley]

Josh Hamilton is on a MVP pace...... 5-5, *4* HR and a double tonight..

Wow! I'm going to have to turn on Sportscenter in a few.

[Alias]

They never did have a big payroll but they shelled out big time on those two. The Padres as an example would have traded them or let them walk.

I doubt Mornou is ever going to attain the level he played at before the injury.

[Alias]

Mariners have beaten the mighty Detroit Tigers 5 out of 6 games. I see the future.

[Conley]

Mariners have beaten the mighty Detroit Tigers 5 out of 6 games. I see the future.

Not trying to be a jerk honest...do you think the Mariners have a good future in that division? They are going up against two of the biggest spenders in all of baseball. That said it must be nice only having to compete against three other teams for the division. :grin:

[Alias]

Not trying to be a jerk honest...do you think the Mariners have a good future in that division? They are going up against two of the biggest spenders in all of baseball. That said it must be nice only having to compete against three other teams for the division. :grin:

We have some good young talent. They will be peakingd right when they become stars so we should be good for a couple years before they go for the big bucks. Do you remember when Griffey and A-Rod left the Mariners in back-to-back years? The next year the Mariners won 116 games.

[Conley]

We have some good young talent. They will be peakingd right when they become stars so we should be good for a couple years before they go for the big bucks. Do you remember when Griffey and A-Rod left the Mariners in back-to-back years? The next year the Mariners won 116 games.

I remember that very well...I was a big Mariner fan back then because my uncle used to live in Seattle and he'd take me to games. I also remember the postseason that year. :(

[RollingWave]

the 2001 Ms were kinda fluky though, aside From Ichiro non of them were really long term stars and some of those performance *cough*Brett Boone*cough* in the height of steriod age was more than a little dubious.

The O's had a wild one with the Rangers today... Ranger Starting pitcher pitched 6 perfect inning with 11k..... after giving up back to back to back HR to start the game ....

Meanwhile Wei-Yin Chen is quitely being one of the best pitcher no one's talking about for the O's another stellar outting today, with a ERA under 2.5 and a K/BB ratio over 2 he's pretty much the O's second best starter right now (After the also suprisingly awesome Jason Hammels.)

[Alias]

the 2001 Ms were kinda fluky though, aside From Ichiro non of them were really long term stars and some of those performance *cough*Brett Boone*cough* in the height of steriod age was more than a little dubious.

The O's had a wild one with the Rangers today... Ranger Starting pitcher pitched 6 perfect inning with 11k..... after giving up back to back to back HR to start the game ....

Meanwhile Wei-Yin Chen is quitely being one of the best pitcher no one's talking about for the O's another stellar outting today, with a ERA under 2.5 and a K/BB ratio over 2 he's pretty much the O's second best starter right now (After the also suprisingly awesome Jason Hammels.)

The O's are definitely improved. yeah, Brett Boone was probably juiced, and so was Clemens and a bunch of others so I figure it evened out. It just sickens me that this happened in baseball. The records set by juiced players should be tossed out in my opinion.

[RollingWave]

unforunately we have no idea at all how many juiced and for how long, the scope and scale is very likely to be much further than we currently know of, so throwing some part of it out seems fairly dubious as well. not to meantion that even Hank Aaron was said to have taken some greenies.... while on the other hand players like Bonds and Clemens were pretty clearly hall of fame material even without the whole steriod issue ... it's a uggh episode to be sure though, but going all morale police over it and pretending how everything before and after never had any taint is fairly disingenious as well.

[Alias]

unforunately we have no idea at all how many juiced and for how long, the scope and scale is very likely to be much further than we currently know of, so throwing some part of it out seems fairly dubious as well. not to meantion that even Hank Aaron was said to have taken some greenies.... while on the other hand players like Bonds and Clemens were pretty clearly hall of fame material even without the whole steriod issue ... it's a uggh episode to be sure though, but going all morale police over it and pretending how everything before and after never had any taint is fairly disingenious as well.

Yes, Bonds and Clemens were sure hall of famers without steroids, that's why it's such a tragedy. I couldn't vote for anyone who used steroids regardless of their performance before. It's like a beautiful dinner and then someone pours gasoline on it. The entire thing is ruined.

I'm be glued to the radio at 4 pm pacific time to catch King Felix and the Mariners in Yankee stadium. I expect big things since Felix had an extra day of rest.

[Alias]

Felix certainly didn't have it last night.

[RollingWave]

it's a major face palm for the Yankees to see Noesi and Montero play while Pineda probably won't pitch for them until 2013 ..... (and if even that.)

[RollingWave]

Matt Cain: super perfect game, 14 K on just 103 pitches, holy shite.

[Goldie Locks]

Matt Cain: super perfect game, 14 K on just 103 pitches, holy shite.

And how about that perfect game saver unbelievable catch by the outfielder???

[RollingWave]

well almost all perfecto have some great defensive plays involved, as far as those goes Blanco's is only good but not ZOMFG good :P

[Conley]

103 pitches, yep truly something else!

[RollingWave]

Remember when Albert Pujols sucked and the Yankees were near the bottom of the division? yeah me neither.

[Conley]

Remember when Albert Pujols sucked and the Yankees were near the bottom of the division? yeah me neither.

I do remember, and I'll never be as happy again as I was during that time...... expect for the years when McCourt was driving the Dodgers into the ground. Those were truly the golden years. :)

[RollingWave]

Dodgers are still doing fine though, and it looks like the Nationals and O's are really legit this year. Harper and Strasburgh's probably the most dynamic duo since Gooden / Strawberry... oh boy now they're both gonna be ruined by cocain!

[RollingWave]

WTF, Yankees traded for Ichiro while they were at Seattle... so he immediately suits up for the team he was schedueled to play against... OUCH.

[MMC]

Heya they did put Ron Santo in the Hall of Fame Finally. It's official, now! To Bad they couldn't have done that for him while he was still alive. A Chicago Cubbie ICON that will be missed. :smiley:

[RollingWave]

Heya they did put Ron Santo in the Hall of Fame Finally. It's official, now! To Bad they couldn't have done that for him while he was still alive. A Chicago Cubbie ICON that will be missed. :smiley:
Cubs long overdue on awards and trophise ? what a new concept ! ;)

OTOH, this years HOF vote will certainly be...... interesting as hell seeing that the list includes...

Barry Bonds / Roger Clemens / Sammy Sosa / Craig Biggio / Curt Schilling etc.... now THAT's going to raise a lot of debates heh.

[Carygrant]

Fuck Baseball .
Excuse my presumption , but it was number 19 on my list of 25 things to do before I reach the age of 21 . It had to be said directly to Americans , though I suspect that real Americans don't much care for this sissy game either .
I shall endure any petty return abuse with a stiff British upper lip . "Stiff"and "lip" to pre-empt attempted funny guys getting over excited .

[RollingWave]

Speaking of stereoids a few pages back.... tell me that these two are the same man again...?

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/images/uploads/article/bondsx-large.jpg

(Barry Bonds taken recently, apprently he's now something of an obessive biker)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Barry_Bonds3.jpg/180px-Barry_Bonds3.jpg
Barry Bonds 2005

Hey it's perfectly normal for guys to suddenly look like they lost a ton of weight and is a lot thinner in his late 40s.. errr rights ? ;)

[Carygrant]

Yes it could be in defined instances .
Super Brit Hero , Bradley Wiggins , shed tons of weight to turn himself from the leading indoors cyclist into the world number one road racer .If you know about him , you will readily appreciate that the chance of him being involved in any way with drugs is zero .
But I suspect ( no proof) that drugs taking continues to be rife in cycling -- track and road , despite the huge clamp down the last three( ?) years .

[Conley]

King Felix threw a perfect game today! Third of the season overall which is weird considering there have been only 23 overall. Mariners must be the first team to be on both sides of one in a single season?

[Jack Fate]

Yes, first time a team has been involved in two perfect games in one season. Both of them were in Safeco Field along with a 6-pitcher no hitter. That's 3 no hitters in one season at Safeco Field.

[RollingWave]

Wow, that was a pretty bad ending for Texas, they blew a huge division lead and then lost a one game deathmatch wildcard to the O's... eek.

[Conley]

Wow, that was a pretty bad ending for Texas, they blew a huge division lead and then lost a one game deathmatch wildcard to the O's... eek.

I Loved seeing GWB's team go down in flames like that :laugh: I feel bad for Atlanta on that AWFUL call but they did make three errors and probably deserved to lose anyway...

[RollingWave]

well i have nothing against Texas but it's good to see the O's back as a relavent team again.

[garyo]

I like the midget fucking premise.

[Deadwood]

I saw a perfect game yesterday against my Mariners. The story of young man who pitched is a classic. Languishing in the minors after Tommy John surgery. Passed around from team to team. Then for one brief moment in time he is in the zone. Amazing to watch.


You know what? I love watching baseball even though all we have here is triple A.....

But I do not know what is a "perfect" game....

Can someone fill in this old hockey player?


BTW, there is no such thing as a perfect game in Hockey.

[Conley]

I like the midget fucking premise.

What?

[Conley]

You know what? I love watching baseball even though all we have here is triple A.....

But I do not know what is a "perfect" game....

Can someone fill in this old hockey player?


BTW, there is no such thing as a perfect game in Hockey.

A perfect game is defined by Major League Baseball as a game in which a pitcher (or combination of pitchers) pitches a victory that lasts a minimum of nine innings and in which no opposing player reaches base.[2] Thus, the pitcher (or pitchers) cannot allow any hits, walks, hit batsmen, or any opposing player to reach base safely for any other reason: in short, "27 up, 27 down". The feat has been achieved 23 times in the history of major league baseball—21 times since the modern era began in 1900, most recently by Félix Hernández of the Seattle Mariners on August 15, 2012.

A perfect game is also a no-hitter and a shutout. Since the pitcher cannot control whether or not his teammates commit any errors, the pitcher must be backed up by solid fielding to pitch a perfect game. An error that does not allow a batter to get on base, such as a misplayed foul ball, does not spoil a perfect game. Weather-shortened contests in which a team has no baserunners and games in which a team reaches first base only in extra innings do not qualify as official perfect games under the present definition. The first confirmed use of the term "perfect game" was in 1908; the current official definition of the term was formalized in 1991. Although it is possible for multiple pitchers to combine for a perfect game (as has happened ten times at the major league level for a no-hitter), to date, every major league perfect game has been thrown by a single pitcher.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_game

[Deadwood]

A perfect game is defined by Major League Baseball as a game in which a pitcher (or combination of pitchers) pitches a victory that lasts a minimum of nine innings and in which no opposing player reaches base.[2] Thus, the pitcher (or pitchers) cannot allow any hits, walks, hit batsmen, or any opposing player to reach base safely for any other reason: in short, "27 up, 27 down". The feat has been achieved 23 times in the history of major league baseball—21 times since the modern era began in 1900, most recently by Félix Hernández of the Seattle Mariners on August 15, 2012.

A perfect game is also a no-hitter and a shutout. Since the pitcher cannot control whether or not his teammates commit any errors, the pitcher must be backed up by solid fielding to pitch a perfect game. An error that does not allow a batter to get on base, such as a misplayed foul ball, does not spoil a perfect game. Weather-shortened contests in which a team has no baserunners and games in which a team reaches first base only in extra innings do not qualify as official perfect games under the present definition. The first confirmed use of the term "perfect game" was in 1908; the current official definition of the term was formalized in 1991. Although it is possible for multiple pitchers to combine for a perfect game (as has happened ten times at the major league level for a no-hitter), to date, every major league perfect game has been thrown by a single pitcher.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_game

Ah, in that case I pitched a perfect game...


Wait, 27 up.....it must have been a perfect inning.

[Captain Obvious]

What?

You didn't know?

The Irates are doing away with perogi races between innings and replacing it with midget fucking to draw crowds.

[RollingWave]

Raul Ibanez pinch hits for A-rod.. and then hits a game tying HR and a walk off HR in 2 consecutive AB... ridicules.

[Conley]

Raul deserves props....so does Girardi though, I was bitching to my OL after the first HR about having a team that can afford to PH for ARod...but it took stones for Girardi to make that call and now after what happened to his pops I hope he realized on some level what a great manager his son is, small measure but family is everything

And yeah back on baseball what Ibanez did is EPIC

[Conley]

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1011/mlb_g_werth13_576.jpg

Loving Nats and A's too...

[Conley]

Baltimore got screwed out of a home run, not sure it would have made a difference the way CC was pitching though...can't stand the Yankees but if they win it I'll be happy for Ichiro.

Nats are now my last hope...A's, O's, and Reds all pooped out

[Conley]

Nats better not blow this...

[Conley]

F'ing Gnats :killme:

[Captain Obvious]

Guess they blew it.

I thought MLB was on lockout or something.

[Conley]

They were up 6-0...

http://jamiedubs.com/fuckflickr/data/fail/epic-fail.jpg

[Captain Obvious]

They were up 6-0...

http://jamiedubs.com/fuckflickr/data/fail/epic-fail.jpg


Dude - I'm from Pittsburgh, remember?

[Conley]

Dude - I'm from Pittsburgh, remember?

Good point...The Pirates whole second half was pretty epic in the fallout. It's the same stupid teams this year, SF, NYY, Giants and Tigers...guess I'll go for Detroit now

[Captain Obvious]

Good point...The Pirates whole second half was pretty epic in the fallout. It's the same stupid teams this year, SF, NYY, Giants and Tigers...guess I'll go for Detroit now

Epic?

We've had 20 years of epic.

BoSox aren't in the mix? Wish I was still in NE, I would have loved to hear the bed shitting going on about now.

[Conley]

Epic?

We've had 20 years of epic.

BoSox aren't in the mix? Wish I was still in NE, I would have loved to hear the bed shitting going on about now.

Pirates were in a spot to go to the playoffs for most of the year...

The BoSox sucked the whole year through though :laugh:

I was enjoying the Patriots trainwreck while it was happening but I think they're back on track and the rest of that division is terrible

[Captain Obvious]

Pirates were in a spot to go to the playoffs for most of the year...

The BoSox sucked the whole year through though :laugh:

I was enjoying the Patriots trainwreck while it was happening but I think they're back on track and the rest of that division is terrible

We were in NH the year before last, big Bahston sports market.

What a bunch of fucking cunts, I couldn't believe the level of pompous that market has - especially about baseball. Pats - yeah, no big surprise, but it's like the 3rd sport there. BoSox are a few pegs above Catholicism.

[RollingWave]

Yuck, non of the fun team you really want to root for (Reds , As, Os, Nats) advanced, if it's a Yankee - Cardinal WS it's gonna be boring as hell, and i'm a Yanks fan!

Still, the Yanks hit like crap against what was mediocar pitching at best in the ALDS, how the hell they'll beat Justin Verlander is beyond me.

[Conley]

Tigs looking good for now, got out of bases loaded jams 3x without giving up a run :grin:

[Conley]

Well that was scary (freakin Ibanez!! insane!) but I'm glad the Tigers pulled themselves together. Have to think after the last few days Valverde has no confidence, he's been rocked now. Too bad about Jeter, hope it is not career threatening...

[RollingWave]

yeah, the Yankees are toast barring a miracle.

[Conley]

yeah, the Yankees are toast barring a miracle.

Did not look good today to say the least...and Verlander hasn't even pitched yet :shocked: