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Mister D
08-08-2011, 10:18 AM
Tottingham is a mutlicultural sewer. The European press tries to draw attention away from the failure of liberal and socialist ideas in part by referring to rioters as "youths".

.LONDON (AP) — Police arrested 160 people during a weekend of riots and looting that erupted in a disadvantaged London neighborhood just five miles (eight kilometers) from the site of next year's Olympic Games.

Groups of masked and hooded young people looted shops, attacked police officers and set fire to vehicles in violence that has raised questions about security ahead of the 2012 Olympics and revealed pent-up anger against the city's police.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-arrest-over-160-weekend-london-riots-080340043.html

MMC
08-08-2011, 04:05 PM
Tottingham is a mutlicultural sewer. The European press tries to draw attention away from the failure of liberal and socialist ideas in part by referring to rioters as "youths".

.LONDON (AP) — Police arrested 160 people during a weekend of riots and looting that erupted in a disadvantaged London neighborhood just five miles (eight kilometers) from the site of next year's Olympic Games.

Groups of masked and hooded young people looted shops, attacked police officers and set fire to vehicles in violence that has raised questions about security ahead of the 2012 Olympics and revealed pent-up anger against the city's police.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-arrest-over-160-weekend-london-riots-080340043.html


I saw footage of this earlier.....they had fires all over the place. buisnesses destroyed and they really tore up that neighborhood. Going after the cops. Did they say how many were injured?

Mister D
08-08-2011, 06:43 PM
Tottingham is a mutlicultural sewer. The European press tries to draw attention away from the failure of liberal and socialist ideas in part by referring to rioters as "youths".

.LONDON (AP) — Police arrested 160 people during a weekend of riots and looting that erupted in a disadvantaged London neighborhood just five miles (eight kilometers) from the site of next year's Olympic Games.

Groups of masked and hooded young people looted shops, attacked police officers and set fire to vehicles in violence that has raised questions about security ahead of the 2012 Olympics and revealed pent-up anger against the city's police.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-arrest-over-160-weekend-london-riots-080340043.html


I saw footage of this earlier.....they had fires all over the place. buisnesses destroyed and they really tore up that neighborhood. Going after the cops. Did they say how many were injured?


Sounds familiar, no?

The article mentions that 35 policemen were injured but says nothing about the "youths".

Conley
08-08-2011, 10:36 PM
Tottingham is a mutlicultural sewer. The European press tries to draw attention away from the failure of liberal and socialist ideas in part by referring to rioters as "youths".

.LONDON (AP) — Police arrested 160 people during a weekend of riots and looting that erupted in a disadvantaged London neighborhood just five miles (eight kilometers) from the site of next year's Olympic Games.

Groups of masked and hooded young people looted shops, attacked police officers and set fire to vehicles in violence that has raised questions about security ahead of the 2012 Olympics and revealed pent-up anger against the city's police.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-arrest-over-160-weekend-london-riots-080340043.html


I saw footage of this earlier.....they had fires all over the place. buisnesses destroyed and they really tore up that neighborhood. Going after the cops. Did they say how many were injured?


Sounds familiar, no?

The article mentions that 35 policemen were injured but says nothing about the "youths".


What should they be called instead of youths? Seems like most people who destroy property are young punks, but then again I'm an old bastard who hates the younger generations. ;D

MMC
08-08-2011, 11:12 PM
Tottingham is a mutlicultural sewer. The European press tries to draw attention away from the failure of liberal and socialist ideas in part by referring to rioters as "youths".

.LONDON (AP) — Police arrested 160 people during a weekend of riots and looting that erupted in a disadvantaged London neighborhood just five miles (eight kilometers) from the site of next year's Olympic Games.

Groups of masked and hooded young people looted shops, attacked police officers and set fire to vehicles in violence that has raised questions about security ahead of the 2012 Olympics and revealed pent-up anger against the city's police.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-arrest-over-160-weekend-london-riots-080340043.html


I saw footage of this earlier.....they had fires all over the place. buisnesses destroyed and they really tore up that neighborhood. Going after the cops. Did they say how many were injured?


Sounds familiar, no?

The article mentions that 35 policemen were injured but says nothing about the "youths".


What should they be called instead of youths? Seems like most people who destroy property are young punks, but then again I'm an old bastard who hates the younger generations. ;D


If they are like the younger generation here in the States, then I doubt they listen to jack shit. Being a little hoodlum back in da day, and being old school, as well as a Survivor. The only thing I can say is we werent about tearing up our neighborhood.

Conley
08-08-2011, 11:15 PM
Yeah the random destruction of property gets to me...at least with stealing it makes sense on some level. Ruining things just to keep others from enjoying them?

MMC
08-08-2011, 11:36 PM
Yeah the random destruction of property gets to me...at least with stealing it makes sense on some level. Ruining things just to keep others from enjoying them?


With the bangers out by me.....and while I am sure banging is the same everywheres. When compared to Chicago. IMO NY and LA Gangs and Organizations cannot compare on the scale of violence that is used. As most that come thru this way have to drop all that shit with their flags and such.

These younger guys don't listen. Not even to us old timers. They put all this shit out in the open drawing more attention to themselves. Then they keep it up until the system is forced to act. Which it does and then you hear about all the busts.

We use to be about the neighborhood. Plus we never stole shit from like civilians or mom and pop stores unless we were young and stealing candy and food items. But tearing up shit just to tear it up what good does it do.

Conley
08-08-2011, 11:45 PM
Yeah, I don't know much about the differences between the gangs in each city. We do have the Mexican and Latin American gangs moving up here which are seemingly much worse than the Bloods, Crips, etc.

MMC
08-08-2011, 11:58 PM
Yeah, I don't know much about the differences between the gangs in each city. We do have the Mexican and Latin American gangs moving up here which are seemingly much worse than the Bloods, Crips, etc.


Okay you guys, ya want to read about what I was invoved with.....Check out the books Once a King Always a King and My Bloody Life by Ray Sanchez. I knew Ray when he was a pee-wee growing up.....it will show you one aspect of it then I can show you how deep the rabbit hole runs. Note I was there long before Ray and with those who brought it forth.

MMC
08-09-2011, 12:21 AM
Looks like they are keeping it going.....3 days now. Plus it has spread to 3 other cities. Liverpool, Bristol, and Birmingham.

http://news.yahoo.com/britain-burns-riots-spread-uk-cities-013736610.html

LONDON (AP) — A wave of violence and looting raged across London and spread to three other major British cities on Tuesday, as authorities struggled to contain the country's worst unrest since race riots set the capital ablaze in the 1980s.

Police called in hundreds of reinforcements — and made a rare decision to deploy armored vehicles in some of the worst-hit districts — but still struggled to keep pace with the chaos unfolding at flashpoints across London, in the central city of Birmingham, the western city of Bristol and the northwestern city of Liverpool.

The riots appeared to have little unifying cause — though some involved in the violence claimed to oppose sharp government spending cuts, which will slash welfare payments and cut tens of thousands of public sector jobs through 2015.

Others appeared attracted simply by the opportunity for violence. "Come join the fun," shouted one youth, racing along a street in the east London suburb of Hackney, where shops were attacked and cars torched.

Prime Minister David Cameron reversed an earlier decision and cut short his summer vacation in Italy, heading home for a meeting of the national crisis committee on Tuesday morning.

WTF how can they claim this is like the Tea Party In the US??? Stating they compare it to right-wing activsm. The US has the TEA-party and they have this. What a joke.....how about England using all those cameras to go after those that were leading the way.

Mister D
08-09-2011, 07:40 AM
Looks like they are keeping it going.....3 days now. Plus it has spread to 3 other cities. Liverpool, Bristol, and Birmingham.

http://news.yahoo.com/britain-burns-riots-spread-uk-cities-013736610.html

LONDON (AP) — A wave of violence and looting raged across London and spread to three other major British cities on Tuesday, as authorities struggled to contain the country's worst unrest since race riots set the capital ablaze in the 1980s.

Police called in hundreds of reinforcements — and made a rare decision to deploy armored vehicles in some of the worst-hit districts — but still struggled to keep pace with the chaos unfolding at flashpoints across London, in the central city of Birmingham, the western city of Bristol and the northwestern city of Liverpool.

The riots appeared to have little unifying cause — though some involved in the violence claimed to oppose sharp government spending cuts, which will slash welfare payments and cut tens of thousands of public sector jobs through 2015.

Others appeared attracted simply by the opportunity for violence. "Come join the fun," shouted one youth, racing along a street in the east London suburb of Hackney, where shops were attacked and cars torched.

Prime Minister David Cameron reversed an earlier decision and cut short his summer vacation in Italy, heading home for a meeting of the national crisis committee on Tuesday morning.

WTF how can they claim this is like the Tea Party In the US??? Stating they compare it to right-wing activsm. The US has the TEA-party and they have this. What a joke.....how about England using all those cameras to go after those that were leading the way.


Sounds to me like they are saying it's the opposite of the tea party at least in terms of motivation. As per the OP: "though some involved in the violence claimed to oppose sharp government spending cuts, which will slash welfare payments and cut tens of thousands of public sector jobs through 2015". I agree that this is just hooliganism.

Mister D
08-09-2011, 08:03 AM
Tottingham is a mutlicultural sewer. The European press tries to draw attention away from the failure of liberal and socialist ideas in part by referring to rioters as "youths".

.LONDON (AP) — Police arrested 160 people during a weekend of riots and looting that erupted in a disadvantaged London neighborhood just five miles (eight kilometers) from the site of next year's Olympic Games.

Groups of masked and hooded young people looted shops, attacked police officers and set fire to vehicles in violence that has raised questions about security ahead of the 2012 Olympics and revealed pent-up anger against the city's police.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-arrest-over-160-weekend-london-riots-080340043.html


I saw footage of this earlier.....they had fires all over the place. buisnesses destroyed and they really tore up that neighborhood. Going after the cops. Did they say how many were injured?


Sounds familiar, no?

The article mentions that 35 policemen were injured but says nothing about the "youths".


What should they be called instead of youths? Seems like most people who destroy property are young punks, but then again I'm an old bastard who hates the younger generations. ;D


These riots have a strongly racial character to them. Granted, I'm sure lily white teenager anarchists are also taking to the streets in their ninja masks... ::)

Now I see what MMC was talking about. Get this: "Phillips claimed rioters were motivated by distrust of the police, and drew a link between the rage on London's street and insurgent right-wing politics in the United States. "In America you have the tea party, in England you've got this," he said".

http://news.yahoo.com/britain-burns-riots-spread-uk-cities-013736610.html

Puleeeese. This Mr. Phillips is obviously ignorant of the American tea parties none of which, as far as I know, have formed mobs and rioted.

MMC
08-09-2011, 08:15 AM
Tottingham is a mutlicultural sewer. The European press tries to draw attention away from the failure of liberal and socialist ideas in part by referring to rioters as "youths".

.LONDON (AP) — Police arrested 160 people during a weekend of riots and looting that erupted in a disadvantaged London neighborhood just five miles (eight kilometers) from the site of next year's Olympic Games.

Groups of masked and hooded young people looted shops, attacked police officers and set fire to vehicles in violence that has raised questions about security ahead of the 2012 Olympics and revealed pent-up anger against the city's police.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-arrest-over-160-weekend-london-riots-080340043.html


I saw footage of this earlier.....they had fires all over the place. buisnesses destroyed and they really tore up that neighborhood. Going after the cops. Did they say how many were injured?


Sounds familiar, no?

The article mentions that 35 policemen were injured but says nothing about the "youths".


What should they be called instead of youths? Seems like most people who destroy property are young punks, but then again I'm an old bastard who hates the younger generations. ;D


These riots have a strongly racial character to them. Granted, I'm sure lily white teenager anarchists are also taking to the streets in their ninja masks... ::)

Now I see what MMC was talking about. Get this: "Phillips claimed rioters were motivated by distrust of the police, and drew a link between the rage on London's street and insurgent right-wing politics in the United States. "In America you have the tea party, in England you've got this," he said".

http://news.yahoo.com/britain-burns-riots-spread-uk-cities-013736610.html

Puleeeese. This Mr. Phillips is obviously ignorant of the American tea parties none of which, as far as I know, have formed mobs and rioted.


Yeah D.....thats exactly what I was talking about. This goes on all over Europe. They always try to make some sort of comparison to us. Thing is the UK was one of the First Countries that started all the Invasion of Privacy legislation for their Country. Which is why they were the first to put Cameras up in Public Areas as a deterrent to Crime. They always look to blame us in some sort of way.

Mister D
08-09-2011, 08:59 AM
Tottingham is a mutlicultural sewer. The European press tries to draw attention away from the failure of liberal and socialist ideas in part by referring to rioters as "youths".

.LONDON (AP) — Police arrested 160 people during a weekend of riots and looting that erupted in a disadvantaged London neighborhood just five miles (eight kilometers) from the site of next year's Olympic Games.

Groups of masked and hooded young people looted shops, attacked police officers and set fire to vehicles in violence that has raised questions about security ahead of the 2012 Olympics and revealed pent-up anger against the city's police.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-arrest-over-160-weekend-london-riots-080340043.html


I saw footage of this earlier.....they had fires all over the place. buisnesses destroyed and they really tore up that neighborhood. Going after the cops. Did they say how many were injured?


Sounds familiar, no?

The article mentions that 35 policemen were injured but says nothing about the "youths".


What should they be called instead of youths? Seems like most people who destroy property are young punks, but then again I'm an old bastard who hates the younger generations. ;D


These riots have a strongly racial character to them. Granted, I'm sure lily white teenager anarchists are also taking to the streets in their ninja masks... ::)

Now I see what MMC was talking about. Get this: "Phillips claimed rioters were motivated by distrust of the police, and drew a link between the rage on London's street and insurgent right-wing politics in the United States. "In America you have the tea party, in England you've got this," he said".

http://news.yahoo.com/britain-burns-riots-spread-uk-cities-013736610.html

Puleeeese. This Mr. Phillips is obviously ignorant of the American tea parties none of which, as far as I know, have formed mobs and rioted.


Yeah D.....thats exactly what I was talking about. This goes on all over Europe. They always try to make some sort of comparison to us. Thing is the UK was one of the First Countries that started all the Invasion of Privacy legislation for their Country. Which is why they were the first to put Cameras up in Public Areas as a deterrent to Crime. They always look to blame us in some sort of way.


We haven't seen anything like this since LA in 1992

Mister D
08-09-2011, 10:31 AM
Looks like they will be cracking down.

http://news.yahoo.com/uk-cop-says-plastic-bullets-possible-riots-130838886.html

A senior London police officers says it is possible that U.K. authorities will use plastic bullets to quell rioting.

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Stephen Kavanagh said Tuesday such bullets are "one of tactics" being considered. Plastic bullets have never been used before during British disturbances.

MMC
08-09-2011, 10:35 AM
Yeah even when they had the blackout in New York they were about looting buisnesses, not starting all kinds of fires.....the only reason they did not compare it to the Arab uprisings is due to the Sunni Muslims they have in their country. IMO that is!

Wow plastic bullets huh.....why not use water hoses and put out the fires at the same time.

Conley
08-09-2011, 10:45 AM
Looks like they are keeping it going.....3 days now. Plus it has spread to 3 other cities. Liverpool, Bristol, and Birmingham.

http://news.yahoo.com/britain-burns-riots-spread-uk-cities-013736610.html

LONDON (AP) — A wave of violence and looting raged across London and spread to three other major British cities on Tuesday, as authorities struggled to contain the country's worst unrest since race riots set the capital ablaze in the 1980s.

Police called in hundreds of reinforcements — and made a rare decision to deploy armored vehicles in some of the worst-hit districts — but still struggled to keep pace with the chaos unfolding at flashpoints across London, in the central city of Birmingham, the western city of Bristol and the northwestern city of Liverpool.

The riots appeared to have little unifying cause — though some involved in the violence claimed to oppose sharp government spending cuts, which will slash welfare payments and cut tens of thousands of public sector jobs through 2015.

Others appeared attracted simply by the opportunity for violence. "Come join the fun," shouted one youth, racing along a street in the east London suburb of Hackney, where shops were attacked and cars torched.

Prime Minister David Cameron reversed an earlier decision and cut short his summer vacation in Italy, heading home for a meeting of the national crisis committee on Tuesday morning.

WTF how can they claim this is like the Tea Party In the US??? Stating they compare it to right-wing activsm. The US has the TEA-party and they have this. What a joke.....how about England using all those cameras to go after those that were leading the way.


Sounds to me like they are saying it's the opposite of the tea party at least in terms of motivation. As per the OP: "though some involved in the violence claimed to oppose sharp government spending cuts, which will slash welfare payments and cut tens of thousands of public sector jobs through 2015". I agree that this is just hooliganism.


To me that quote comparing the tea party sounded like it was comparing the anger of both movements. So, basically bullshit.

"Phillips claimed rioters were motivated by distrust of the police, and drew a link between the rage on London's street and insurgent right-wing politics in the United States. "In America you have the tea party, in England you've got this," he said."

edit: oops, should have read the whole thread before posting :-X

Conley
08-09-2011, 10:48 AM
Tottingham is a mutlicultural sewer. The European press tries to draw attention away from the failure of liberal and socialist ideas in part by referring to rioters as "youths".

.LONDON (AP) — Police arrested 160 people during a weekend of riots and looting that erupted in a disadvantaged London neighborhood just five miles (eight kilometers) from the site of next year's Olympic Games.

Groups of masked and hooded young people looted shops, attacked police officers and set fire to vehicles in violence that has raised questions about security ahead of the 2012 Olympics and revealed pent-up anger against the city's police.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-arrest-over-160-weekend-london-riots-080340043.html


I saw footage of this earlier.....they had fires all over the place. buisnesses destroyed and they really tore up that neighborhood. Going after the cops. Did they say how many were injured?


Sounds familiar, no?

The article mentions that 35 policemen were injured but says nothing about the "youths".


What should they be called instead of youths? Seems like most people who destroy property are young punks, but then again I'm an old bastard who hates the younger generations. ;D


These riots have a strongly racial character to them. Granted, I'm sure lily white teenager anarchists are also taking to the streets in their ninja masks... ::)



There are tons of white hooligans over there...what do they call them, chavs right? They're the same ones that always cause trouble at soccer matches and generally fuck shit up. Uneducated, unemployed, and angry...they have all kinds of problems over there right now.

Mister D
08-09-2011, 10:56 AM
Tottingham is a mutlicultural sewer. The European press tries to draw attention away from the failure of liberal and socialist ideas in part by referring to rioters as "youths".

.LONDON (AP) — Police arrested 160 people during a weekend of riots and looting that erupted in a disadvantaged London neighborhood just five miles (eight kilometers) from the site of next year's Olympic Games.

Groups of masked and hooded young people looted shops, attacked police officers and set fire to vehicles in violence that has raised questions about security ahead of the 2012 Olympics and revealed pent-up anger against the city's police.

http://news.yahoo.com/police-arrest-over-160-weekend-london-riots-080340043.html


I saw footage of this earlier.....they had fires all over the place. buisnesses destroyed and they really tore up that neighborhood. Going after the cops. Did they say how many were injured?


Sounds familiar, no?

The article mentions that 35 policemen were injured but says nothing about the "youths".


What should they be called instead of youths? Seems like most people who destroy property are young punks, but then again I'm an old bastard who hates the younger generations. ;D


These riots have a strongly racial character to them. Granted, I'm sure lily white teenager anarchists are also taking to the streets in their ninja masks... ::)



There are tons of white hooligans over there...what do they call them, chavs right? They're the same ones that always cause trouble at soccer matches and generally fuck shit up. Uneducated, unemployed, and angry...they have all kinds of problems over there right now.


Like I said, I have no doubt that some native Britons joined the fray but the riots started over a racially tinged incident involving the police. That's exactly what happened in France too.

MMC
08-09-2011, 10:57 AM
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:D ;) ;D

Conley
08-09-2011, 10:58 AM
Oh, I thought your ::) denoted sarcasm. Kids today just suck, no matter what color. ;D

Mister D
08-09-2011, 11:02 AM
Oh, I thought your ::) denoted sarcasm. Kids today just suck, no matter what color. ;D


Oh, I see the confusion. I was just ridiculing anarchists. They look ridiculous and most of them are out there because they think it's cool to dress up like ninjas and break shit that doesn't belong to them. I wonder how they'd feel if the mobs torched mommy and daddy's house? As son as these "hooligans" (good term) heard about the race riot they started causing trouble as well.

Conley
08-09-2011, 05:57 PM
At least one guy's enjoying this. Rupert Murdoch must be happy to be off the front page.

Mister D
08-09-2011, 07:09 PM
At least one guy's enjoying this. Rupert Murdoch must be happy to be off the front page.
.

No doubt.

I'll be paying closer attention tomorrow. These disturbances have become very serious. It's becoming increasingly similar to what happened in France and I want to see how the British media will spin this.

Conley
08-09-2011, 07:13 PM
Did any change come about from what happened in France? Besides the common folk becoming more angered by the immigrant population, I mean. Did the government do anything, or maybe was there a shift in the subsequent elections?

Mister D
08-09-2011, 08:28 PM
Did any change come about from what happened in France? Besides the common folk becoming more angered by the immigrant population, I mean. Did the government do anything, or maybe was there a shift in the subsequent elections?


The phony right had been forced to co-opt the far right's platform to some extent before the riots. The mayhem, IMHO, only increased the zeal with which the phony right (Sarkozy etc.) made populist appeals with regard to such things as banning Islamic garb in schools, securing the border, and creating further restrictions on migration/immigration. Now I don't know if this is heartfelt or just calculated populism but it has had an effect for sure.

Conley
08-09-2011, 09:06 PM
Thanks for the summary. As you said, it will be interesting to see how the UK reacts.

MMC
08-10-2011, 01:39 AM
Thanks for the summary. As you said, it will be interesting to see how the UK reacts.


They now have reacted as the Authorities launched their attempts to gain control. Now the riots have spread even more.