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MMC
08-08-2011, 10:18 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/arab-nations-condemn-syria-crackdown-mounts-141646104.html

BEIRUT (AP) — Arab nations joined the international chorus of condemnation against President Bashar Assad's regime Monday, with Bahrain, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia pulling out their ambassadors as a besieged Syrian city came under fresh artillery fire.

"Any sane Arab, Muslim or anyone else knows that this has nothing to do with religion, or ethics or morals; spilling the blood of the innocent for any reasons or pretext leads to no path to ... hope," King Abdullah said in a statement.

Bahrain, a U.S. ally that hosts the Navy's 5th Fleet, recalled its ambassador to Syria "for consultation," Foreign Minister Khalid bin Ahmed Al Khalifa announced on his official Twitter feed Monday. Bahraini officials couldn't immediately be reached for further comment. Kuwait also recalled its ambassador to Syria, Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Sheik Mohammad Sabah al-Salem Al Sabah said in a brief statement carried by the state news agency KUNA. He said Gulf foreign ministers planned to meet soon to discuss the situation in Syria.

Condemnation of the Syrian government spread to the Internet, where the hacking group known as Anonymous claimed credit for vandalizing the Syrian military's website. The site quickly became unavailable, but screenshots circulated online showed the group's trademark headless suit and a message addressed to the Syrian people saying that "the world stands with you against the brutal regime."

Uh oh.....The King of All Sunni Is Crying out and Calling back his Ambassador. notice how the birds of a feather flock together. Thoughts?

MMC
08-08-2011, 10:29 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-tanks-pound-city-saudi-king-condemns-violence-003509309.html
Reuters – 55 mins ago.....

AMMAN (Reuters) - President Bashar al-Assad extended a tank onslaught in Syria's Sunni Muslim tribal heartland on Monday, residents said, in a crackdown on dissent that prompted an extraordinary warning from Saudi Arabia that he should stop the violence or risk defeat.

The Saudi criticism was the sharpest the oil giant has directed against any fellow Arab state since pro-democracy uprisings began to sweep across the Middle East in January, toppling autocrats in Tunisia and Egypt, kindling civil war in Libya and rattling entrenched elites throughout the region.

"What is happening in Syria is not acceptable for Saudi Arabia," Abdullah said in a written statement read out on Al Arabiya satellite television."Syria should think wisely before it's too late and issue and enact reforms that are not merely promises but actual reforms," said the Saudi king, an absolute ruler whose country has no elected parliament. "Either it chooses wisdom on its own or it will be pulled down into the depths of turmoil and loss."

Syrian tanks and troops poured into the eastern Sunni city of Deir al-Zor in the latest stage of a campaign to crush centers of protest against 41 years of repressive rule by the Assad family and domination by his Alawite minority community.

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan, who cultivated close ties with Assad but has sharply criticized the crackdown, said Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu would visit Syria Tuesday.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spoke to Davutoglu Sunday, the State Department said, asking him to "reinforce" Washington's position that Syria must immediately return its military to barracks and release all prisoners of concern.

The US telling another Sovereign Country they must return their Military to their barracks? What the Sunni don't like gettting picked on.....eh. Tuesday Clinton met with ex-patriots of the Sunni from the Rebellion from 29 yrs ago? Thoughts?

MMC
08-08-2011, 10:30 AM
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BLOODY CRACKDOWN in SYRIA . (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzrfztJC5ls#)

MMC
08-08-2011, 10:39 AM
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MMC
08-08-2011, 10:56 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Syrian_Air_Force_bases

List of Syrian Military Airforce Bases.....Afis - 35°58′20″N 36°46′59″E / 35.97222°N 36.78306°E / 35.97222; 36.78306 (Afis)
Al Qusayr - 34°34′9″N 36°34′22″E / 34.56917°N 36.57278°E / 34.56917; 36.57278 (Al Qusayr)
An Nasiriya - 33°55′5″N 36°51′57″E / 33.91806°N 36.86583°E / 33.91806; 36.86583 (An Nasiriya)
As Suwayda - 32°42′19″N 36°24′46″E / 32.70528°N 36.41278°E / 32.70528; 36.41278 (As Suwayda)
Dumayr - 33°36′35″N 36°44′56″E / 33.60972°N 36.74889°E / 33.60972; 36.74889 (Dumayr)
Hamah - 35°7′6″N 36°42′40″E / 35.11833°N 36.71111°E / 35.11833; 36.71111 (Hamah)
Jirah - 36°5′48″N 37°56′11″E / 36.09667°N 37.93639°E / 36.09667; 37.93639 (Jirah)
Khalkhalah - 33°3′41″N 36°33′8″E / 33.06139°N 36.55222°E / 33.06139; 36.55222 (Khalkhalah)
Marj As Sultan - 33°9′6″N 36°8′31″E / 33.15167°N 36.14194°E / 33.15167; 36.14194 (Marj As Sultan)
Marj Ruhayyil - 33°17′6″N 36°27′29″E / 33.285°N 36.45806°E / 33.285; 36.45806 (Marj Ruhayyil)
Minakh - 36°31′19″N 37°2′12″E / 36.52194°N 37.03667°E / 36.52194; 37.03667 (Minakh)
Qabr as Sitt - 33°0′5″N 36°8′0″E / 33.00139°N 36.133333°E / 33.00139; 36.133333 (Qabr as Sitt)
Saiqal - 33°40′57″N 37°12′50″E / 33.6825°N 37.21389°E / 33.6825; 37.21389 (Saiqal (Tsaykal))
Shayrat - 34°29′30″N 36°54′35″E / 34.49167°N 36.90972°E / 34.49167; 36.90972 (Shayrat)
Tiyas - 34°31′22″N 37°37′49″E / 34.52278°N 37.63028°E / 34.52278; 37.63028 (Tiyas)


Attack Su-24, Su-22, Mi-24
Fighter MiG-29, MiG-23
Interceptor MiG-25
Trainer MBB 223 Flamingo, Aero L-39 Albatros, MFI-17 Mushshak
Transport Il-76, An-26, Mi-17, Mi-8, Gazelle

Note: they also have the New Russian Mig. SU 35

MMC
08-08-2011, 11:16 AM
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Threats_to_Israel/Syria.html

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Syria has reportedly received $1 billion from Iran in 2007-8 to buy surface-to-surface missiles, rockets, anti-tank missiles and anti-aircraft systems. According to Haaretz (March 21, 2008), “Israel has learned that Syria is buying more missiles than tanks, on the assumption that attacking the Israeli home front would deter Israel on the one hand, and help to determine the war on the other.”

A Syrian delegation visiting Moscow in May 2008 was reportedly seeking a variety of new weapons systems that Israel views as threatening. Israel is particularly concerned with a Syrian request for long-range S-300 surface-to-air missiles that could threaten IAF jets flying on the Israeli side of the Golan Heights. Syria also reportedly wants MiG 29 fighter jets and the Iskander surface-to-surface missile system, which is a longer range and more accurate missile than the ballistic missiles currently in Syria's arsenal. The Syrian navy, which currently has no submarines, is apparently also looking to purchase two Amur-1650 submarines from Russia. The dramatic increase in military spending and effort to significantly upgrade its military capability is one more reason Israelis are skeptical about Syrian intentions.

Syria was already known to conduct nuclear research at three facilities located at Dayr, Al Hajar and Dubaya. “In 2004, Syria continued to develop civilian nuclear capabilities, including uranium extraction technology and hot cell facilities, which may also be potentially applicable to a weapons program,” the report said. As a signatory to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, Syria is required to submit to IAEA safeguards and inspections. In January 2007, the United States froze the assets of three Syrian entities involved in the development of nonconventional weapons.

According to Gregory Schulte, former U.S. envoy to the IAEA, Syria may be operating more nuclear sites.

Under a mutual defense pact signed between Syria and Iran in 2005, Syria agreed to allow the deployment of Iranian weapons on its territory. On June 15, 2006, Syria’s defense minister, Hassan Turkmani, signed an agreement with his Iranian counterpart for military cooperation against what they called the “common threats” presented by Israel and the United States. “Our cooperation is based on a strategic pact and unity against common threats,” said Turkmani. “We can have a common front against Israel’s threats.” In December 2009, Syria and Iran signed an additional defense agreement aimed to face “common enemies and challenges.” In praising the agreement, Iranian Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi said, “it is natural for a country like Syria - which has an inhumane and menacing predator like Israel in its neighborhood - to be always prepared [against possible foreign aggression].”

You can read the Article as it tells all that the West knows that the Syrians have. Way more than Qadhafi.....Think the Saudi's want to take this on? The Sunni? They will have their asses handed to them on the goats they should be herding. Do you see how many missiles they have.....thats what we know of. Not what they got.

MMC
08-09-2011, 12:35 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-defense-minister-replaced-164346437.html
AP – 7 hrs ago.....

BEIRUT (AP) — Syrian President Bashar Assad replaced his defense minister Monday with the army chief of staff in the midst of a brutal military crackdown on a 5-month-old uprising, the state-run news agency said.

He was replaced by Gen. Dawoud Rajha, a 64-year-old Christian, SANA said. The agency did not say who will succeed Rajha as chief of staff. His deputy is Maj. Gen. Assef Shawkat, who is married to Assad's sister, Bushra.

The international community already has imposed sanctions on the regime — including on Habib and Rajha — and demanded an immediate end to the attacks. France, Italy and Germany renewed their condemnation Monday.

The bloodshed has drawn sharp condemnation from abroad, and Arab nations joined the growing international chorus against Assad's regime Monday, with Bahrain, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia recalling their ambassadors.

Thoughts?

MMC
08-20-2011, 11:25 AM
Obama calls on Syria's President to step down.....Obama calls on Syria's Assad to step down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHCe-41yaFU#ws)

Both Clinton and Obama have called now for Assad to resign.....yet Clinton uses the word transition. So that the Syrian people can transiton thru to what?

MMC
08-20-2011, 02:43 PM
In June, around 300 opposition figures, including some from the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood, gathered in Turkey to promote democratic change in Syria and elect a consultative council.

While acknowledging their differences, they agreed to work together, rejected foreign interference and stressed that the peaceful revolt did not target any sect -- an attempt to reassure Alawites fearful of persecution in a post-Assad era.....snip~

This is how it began.....This is what I was talking about D. With the Sunni and the MB. From Egypt and Libya all the way to Syria. >:(

hellraiser
08-20-2011, 02:50 PM
we are all brothers, muslims too

what is muslim brotherhood? they bad people?

MMC
08-20-2011, 03:02 PM
we are all brothers, muslims too

what is muslim brotherhood? they bad people?


They are responsible for leading this revolt against Assad. They were responsible 29yrs ago against Assad's father. They are responsible for the UP-Risings in Egypt and Libya.

You say you are all brothers. Does this include the Shia? Why is it then the Shia are up-rising in all the Sunni led Countries. Like Yemen, Bahrain, Oman. Of Course Iraq too. Why isnt the UN cracking down on the Saudis for invading Bahrain with Troops? Why are they not telling Selah to get out of Yemen? Why isnt he being put up for crimes against humanity for what he has done to the Shia and their Shieks? The Shia are Muslim.....why should the Sunni allowed to be starting revolts yet they can kill those Shia that do so in their Countries?

hellraiser
08-20-2011, 03:22 PM
no i mean christian muslim jews we are all brothers.

i am not against the shia but i know shias do bad just like sunnis. both sides have bad men.

we will help syria like we helped in libya see already they are closer to peace and justice now the war is almost over

MMC
08-21-2011, 04:14 AM
no i mean christian muslim jews we are all brothers.

i am not against the shia but i know shias do bad just like sunnis. both sides have bad men.

we will help syria like we helped in libya see already they are closer to peace and justice now the war is almost over


Peace and Justice? What Justice HR? What is justice? What is the definition of justice? As for Peace HR. One cannot have Peace without War.

Where is the justice coming in if the MB and the Sunni want to take control of the Country of Syria? Don't take it the wrong way. No one is saying that what Assad is doing is the proper or correct way on how to go about changing his perception amongst the Sunni. Personally I do not think there is anything he can do. While the Sunni may say it is not due to their religion and that it is due to economics and class as to why they are revolting. What changes if they take power in the government?

The Sunni.....will use democracy to promote their class to the top and then the Shia will be what? The Minority. The real Syrians even more of a minority.

MMC
08-23-2011, 12:07 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-opposition-members-form-national-council-141144418.html
AP – 2 hrs 50 mins ago.....

BEIRUT (AP) — A Syrian dissident says some members of the opposition have formed a national council with the aim of presenting a united front for the fragmented movement opposing President Bashar Assad.

Obeida al-Nahhas spoke to The Associated Press by phone from Istanbul, Turkey, where a group of regime opponents have been meeting for several days. He refused to discuss details of the council, saying they are still being worked out.

The Syrian uprising began more than five months ago. Assad's regime has been shaken but is in no imminent danger of falling. The protest movement has been working to form a united voice, but infighting has slowed the process.

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A Syrian girl shouts in support of Syrian President Bashar Assad after he gave an interview on state-run TV, in Omawiyeen Square, Damascus, Syria, Sunday, Aug. 21, 2011. Assad said Sunday his regime was in no danger of collapse and warned against any foreign military intervention in his country as the regime tries to crush a 5-month-old popular uprising. (AP Photo/Muzaffar Salman.....snip~

Conley
08-23-2011, 12:18 PM
I wonder how much of these protests are just kids who are angry at the man. They're the ones in the streets, while every old pol or banker with an axe to grind meets in some swanky location and is trying to plot how to topple Assad to get a bigger piece of the pie. It must be really hard to organize these 'revolutions' and try to figure out what exactly you're fighting for. :D

MMC
08-28-2011, 05:33 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-forces-deploy-iran-boosts-regime-123610603.html

BEIRUT (AP) — Syrian security forces fanned out in flashpoint cities nationwide Saturday to crush protests against President Bashar Assad as the country's powerful ally Iran warned of an unprecedented regional crisis if there is a power vacuum in Damascus. Syria is an important geopolitical linchpin. It borders five other nations, has close ties to Iran and powerful militant groups, and controls water supplies to Iraq, Jordan and parts of Israel. The country also has a potentially volatile mix of religious groups and sects.

The European Union imposed sanctions Wednesday against an elite unit of Iran's Revolutionary Guard, saying the Quds Force is providing equipment and other support to help crush the revolt.
The sanctions broadened the international pressure against Syria by directly targeting its key ally Iran.

Although the crackdown has led to broad condemnation and sanctions, Assad is in no immediate danger of falling. Economic sanctions will chip away at the regime, although a new U.S. ban on Syrian oil is not a significant blow on its own as the U.S. has few business dealing with Syria. A possible oil embargo by the European Union's 27 member states could significantly slash the Damascus government's revenues, however.

On Friday, Syria's ally Russia introduced a rival U.N. resolution on Syria that called for Assad's government to halt its violence against protesters and expedite reforms, but made no mention of the sanctions sought by the U.S. and European nations.
"This is a situation where continued activity by the Security Council might be helpful, if it is pushing the parties in the right direction," Russian Ambassador Vitaly Churkin said.Russia's draft resolution calls on the Syrian government to "expedite the implementation of the announced reforms in order to effectively address the legitimate aspirations and concerns of Syria's people.".....snip~

Looks Like Assad is checking on his deployment of troops. As he had his Army fan out all across the Country. This was after he removed his Security Chief. But notice this weeks sanctions have nothing to do with Syria really as it was more focus at the Iranian Guards. Shouldn't the EU have to present some sort of Evidence that the Iranian Guards are doing what the EU says? Especially if they want US support.

MMC
09-27-2011, 07:59 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/syria-forces-storm-town-fight-defectors-residents-055827536.html

AMMAN (Reuters) - Syrian forces backed by tanks and helicopters stormed into the central town of Rastan on Tuesday to crush army deserters who are fighting back after months of mostly peaceful protests against President Bashar al-Assad, residents said.

Hundreds of soldiers who have refused orders to fire on protesters have formed the Khaled Bin al-Walid battalion, named after the Arab conqueror of Syria, in Rastan. The force, led by Captain Abdelrahman Sheikh, has some tanks. Colonel Riad al-Assad, the most senior military defector, is active in the area.

Syria, under economic pressure from the turmoil and from Western sanctions now focusing on the oil sector, took the drastic step of banning most imports last week to lessen demand for the dollar and preserve dwindling foreign currency reserves.....snip~

Their one problem now is that Residents are reporting that Assad's Troops are indeed being attacked. That there have been defections. Just Like with Gadhafi. Will the World now step in for the Arab once again?

waltky
10-26-2012, 03:49 PM
Jihadi's rush into Syrian conflict...
:huh:
Syrian war boils over onto U.S. allies; outside jihadists rush in
Thursday, October 25, 2012 - Syria’s protracted civil war is spilling across its borders, creating breeding grounds for extremists, sharpening sectarian schisms and threatening to destabilize U.S. allies in the Middle East.


The war has attracted jihadists from across the region, including Libya, where rebels overthrew Moammar Gadhafi’s regime a year ago and where al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb has sought to put down roots. “If al Qaeda-related groups gain a foothold in Syria, that is very bad news for everybody,” said Danielle Pletka, vice president of foreign and defense policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute. “And if governments that have long been allies of the U.S. – [I’m] thinking here of a country like Jordan – end up being destabilized, that is also potentially very harmful for the United States,” she said. “There are so many wild cards.”

In just the past month, a mortar shell fired by the Syrian military killed five civilians in Turkey, provoking a Turkish attack on Syrian targets; a top Lebanese intelligence official was assassinated in Beirut by a car bomb blamed on Syria; and a Jordanian soldier was killed in a border clash with armed men trying to cross over from Syria. “Fallout from the Syrian civil war is one of the most important strategic issues facing the United States today,” said Daniel L. Byman, deputy director of the Saban Center for Middle East Policy at the Brookings Institution. “The conflict has the potential to destabilize key regional states, like Iraq, and to assist terrorist groups, like Hezbollah and al Qaeda. It also implicates the interests of powerful friends like Israel and Turkey,” Mr. Byman said. “As the conflict intensifies, these problems are likely to grow worse, not better.”

Syrian President Bashar Assad’s regime agreed Thursday to a four-day cease-fire effective from Friday to mark the Muslim holiday of Eid-al-Adha. The Syrian army, however, reserved the right to respond to rebel attacks during this period. Rebels reported heavy fighting in the western cities of Al Rastan and Aleppo in interviews over Skype on Thursday. Syrian activists say more than 33,000 people have been killed since the start of the uprising against the Assad regime in March of last year. The United Nations estimates that more than 20,000 people have died.

Foment in Lebanon (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/25/syrian-war-boils-over-onto-us-allies-outside-jihad/)