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Alyosha
01-02-2015, 08:59 AM
http://higherperspective.com/2014/12/colorado.html#u5DGjcezELrOcse6.99


In 2012, Colorado and Washington state legalized the recreational use of marijuana, much to the dismay of anti-pot advocates. They frequently alleged that it would make it easier for children to acquire, that more people would use it, that there would be more people driving while high, and that it would be an all around bad deal for these states.

In Colorado, it’s safe to say that the doomsayers were 100% wrong. Sales of recreational marijuana continue to rise with more than $34 million worth sold in August alone (http://www.thecannabist.co/2014/10/09/august-pot-taxes-sales-colorado-jumped-10-theyre-slowing/21187/). That means that the state raised $3.4 million for building and maintaining schools in the state. At the rate the state is going, some $30 million will be brought in from pot taxes alone. That’s some serious dough!


Even better, crime has suddenly and sharply dropped in the state, providing evidence that clearly counters the idea that crime would rise with the plant’s legalization. Overall crime has dropped by 15% (http://naturalsociety.com/colorado-crime-rates-14-6-since-legalizing-marijuana/), and murder is down by nearly half. The government is planning to allocate some of the state tax money from pot to improving infrastructure and employing more people, even now as the unemployment rate continues to drop.

Read more at http://higherperspective.com/2014/12/colorado.html#PEeK8tsFfTdcmmsH.99

donttread
01-02-2015, 09:27 AM
http://higherperspective.com/2014/12/colorado.html#u5DGjcezELrOcse6.99

Nobody who has a clue would of ever predicted an increase in crime over the legalization of pot. Just scare tactics. Remember big pharma and seagrams are partial owners of the American government

Alyosha
01-02-2015, 09:44 AM
Well, we all know why the drug war exists. In the beginning it had a lot to do with the alcohol lobby and Big Pharm but according to Scahill and Greenwald, who I believe for reasons of my own, our spook agencies would have their budgets slashed if the drug war didn't exist.

Can't have that, noooo.

del
01-02-2015, 09:46 AM
http://higherperspective.com/2014/12/colorado.html#u5DGjcezELrOcse6.99


. Overall crime has dropped by 15% (http://naturalsociety.com/colorado-crime-rates-14-6-since-legalizing-marijuana/), and murder is down by nearly half.

drop in the murder rate, while certainly good to see, probably has zip to do with legalization. i'd guess that other than the obvious cessation of arrests for possession, none of it has anyhting to do with legalization

correlation doesn't imply causation

Alyosha
01-02-2015, 09:49 AM
drop in the murder rate, while certainly good to see, probably has zip to do with legalization. i'd guess that other than the obvious cessation of arrests for possession, none of it has anyhting to do with legalization

correlation doesn't imply causation



Nope, but people said the sky would fall and there would be reefer madness if this happened. It did not.

I would imagine if enough people are high, fewer people are angry. Also, pot dealers are heroin dealers are crack dealers, etc. So when people don't need to see a dealer, and dealers lose money, they (like other businesses) pick up and move.

PolWatch
01-02-2015, 10:07 AM
A lot of people in my generation believe the reefer madness theory. Reality has little to do with ideas set in stone 50 years ago.

Don
01-02-2015, 11:52 AM
A lot of people in my generation believe the reefer madness theory. Reality has little to do with ideas set in stone 50 years ago.

You are right. We were told that marijuana was a very dangerous drug. When we found out it wasn't we wondered if they were also lying about drugs that were dangerous. There was a good episode of South Park where the dangers of pot smoking were exaggerated. At the end the boys learned something..... Smoking pot wasn't a danger in that it would make you into an axe murdering monster or cause you to go on to heroin. It just made you not care so much about being motivated to excel in life.

Captain Obvious
01-02-2015, 11:55 AM
This is the pot industries claim, I wonder if other unrelated sources carried it.

Alyosha
01-02-2015, 12:00 PM
This is the pot industries claim, I wonder if other unrelated sources carried it.


http://media2.policymic.com/7c7b030b708649841d159fe5cac20399.png

http://i0.wp.com/naturalsociety.com/wp-content/uploads/marijuana_charts_colorado.png?resize=400%2C556


http://www.denvergov.org/police/PoliceDepartment/CrimeInformation/CrimeStatisticsMaps/tabid/441370/Default.aspx

Alyosha
01-02-2015, 12:01 PM
I'll assume the police department's website is good enough.

Captain Obvious
01-02-2015, 12:02 PM
http://media2.policymic.com/7c7b030b708649841d159fe5cac20399.png

http://i0.wp.com/naturalsociety.com/wp-content/uploads/marijuana_charts_colorado.png?resize=400%2C556


http://www.denvergov.org/police/PoliceDepartment/CrimeInformation/CrimeStatisticsMaps/tabid/441370/Default.aspx

The correlation.

Captain Obvious
01-02-2015, 12:03 PM
I'll assume the police department's website is good enough.

As long as it's not the FBI's

:biglaugh:

Alyosha
01-02-2015, 12:03 PM
The correlation.

The police predicted the opposite would happen, and they were wrong. That's the point of this.

Alyosha
01-02-2015, 12:05 PM
Personally, I love how people only care about correlation when it's a subject that they disagree with you on. It's okay to discuss correlation between minimum wage and crime or number of guns sold, but talk about pot and suddenly we have to have 10 years of scientific study.

Captain Obvious
01-02-2015, 12:18 PM
Personally, I love how people only care about correlation when it's a subject that they disagree with you on. It's okay to discuss correlation between minimum wage and crime or number of guns sold, but talk about pot and suddenly we have to have 10 years of scientific study.

I'm neither here nor there with post use/sales/legalization. Used to be against it, now I'm indifferent, if states want to legalize it then I support that process.

I'm just skeptical about people who take potentially highly biased reporting form the industry source as fact.

That's all, no hidden agendas on my part.

The Xl
01-02-2015, 02:14 PM
I'm sure their is some significant traction here.

I know, I know causation correlation and blah blah, but it logically makes sense that crime is down. Non violent arrests for users and people possessing would naturally be down, as it is legal now, and violent drug related crime would logically go down because the clean market is taking away from the underground drug market.

Private Pickle
01-02-2015, 05:24 PM
It is time that people stop pretending that weed is some kind of horrible drug that makes black people rape white people. This is America. I could care less whether you smoke weed or don't. Whether you marry a guy or a girl or both. Whether you carry a gun or not.

As long as you don't infringe on the rights of others you are good. Now if the government would realize the same and stop infringing on the rights of it's people we will have a country the fathers intended.

del
01-02-2015, 05:27 PM
Personally, I love how people only care about correlation when it's a subject that they disagree with you on. It's okay to discuss correlation between minimum wage and crime or number of guns sold, but talk about pot and suddenly we have to have 10 years of scientific study.

if that's addressed to me, i'll only say that if you think the legalization of pot has anything to do with the drop in the murder rate, you should rethink it.

Cthulhu
01-03-2015, 06:53 PM
The police predicted the opposite would happen, and they were wrong. That's the point of this.
Cops are never wrong, judges either.

*eye roll*.

/rant.


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