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Peter1469
11-03-2015, 05:53 AM
The Confessions of a Naval Intelligence Officer: The Same Forces Killed JFK, RFK, and MLK (http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/the-confessions-of-a-naval-intelligence-officer-the-same-forces-killed-jfk-rfk-and-mlk-2472332.html?currentSplittedPage=0)
Many people believe the US fell to the Establishment during the decade when JFK, MLK, and RFK were assassinated. This article claims by the same group of people.


The establishment says that John Kennedy, Robert Kennedy and Dr. Martin Luther King were all killed by lone assassins who most people labeled as mentally ill and extremist in their beliefs.

Ask yourself an important question. If you were going to carry out a high-profile assassination of well-guarded individuals, this would require a great deal of planning, don’t you think? One would have to be able to get in proximity to their target, remain undetected, conceal their weapon until the last moment and then flawlessly carry out the plot with an accuracy that’s second to none. With the high degree of planning that would have to go in to these three assassinations, why would anyone risk discovery by revealing their plans in advance by confessing in a diary which could’ve been serendipitously discovered?


Perhaps we can buy this ridiculous diary explanation in one of these assassinations.More amazingly, each diary left a convincing trail of condemning evidence as to the written, self expressed guilt of the assassin which would leave no doubt in the public’s mind that the assassin acted alone. Therefore, we are asked to believe that this scenario happened three times, in the three major assassinations of the 20th century, less than five years apart and we’re supposed to believe that this commonality of modus operandi is just a mere coincidence? Are you kidding me? Meanwhile the establishment elite gets to point the finger individually at each of the accused three assassins by pointing to these diaries.


John Kennedy was allegedly killed by Lee Harvey Oswald. Oswald supposedly wrote a diary upon his return journey from his previous defection to the Soviet Union in which he threatened the president with harm. Many handwriting analysts discredit the Oswald diary as a diary that was written in just a few sessions and not over a period of months and years as the Warren Commission claimed.


Robert Kennedy was killed by Sirhan Sirhan and the diary was later discovered and used to implicate the accused assassin in a court of law.


Dr. Martin Luther King was assassinated by James Earl Ray and he too had a diary professing his intentions to kill the civil rights activist. Interestingly, members of the King family visited James Earl Ray on many occasions in prison and publicly stated that they do not believe that James Earl Ray was the man who killed Dr. Martin Luther King.
This trifecta trail of implication through the finding of a diary is not believable and this really does demonstrate how dumb the establishment elite thinks the American people truly are that we would believe the same story three times over.

Subdermal
11-03-2015, 01:54 PM
I do agree that the same forces killed all three, and - IMO - it is the same entity which controls both political parties. This entity is quite old, and quite evil.

zelmo1234
11-03-2015, 01:56 PM
Not buying into it! too much evidence to the contrary.

Mini Me
11-04-2015, 12:13 AM
At the time of the Kennedy asasinations, W. Texas oil tycoons were mad at JFK for not signing the oil depletion allowance bill. Also, Alan Dulles of the CIA infuriated John so much that he was considering breaking up the CIA.
And the mob was mad at Bobby for prosecuting mobsters, and boss, Sam Giancano put out a hit on the Kennedys. Sam even killed Marilyn Monroe and tried to pin Bobby for it. The other thing is JFK wanted us out of Vietnam, and was thinking of breaking up the Federal Reserve!

It is part of the vast, right wing conspiracy, which, today is the Rothschild Banking Cartel and Khazarian Mafia in control.

Peter1469
11-04-2015, 04:30 AM
At the time of the Kennedy asasinations, W. Texas oil tycoons were mad at JFK for not signing the oil depletion allowance bill. Also, Alan Dulles of the CIA infuriated John so much that he was considering breaking up the CIA.
And the mob was mad at Bobby for prosecuting mobsters, and boss, Sam Giancano put out a hit on the Kennedys. Sam even killed Marilyn Monroe and tried to pin Bobby for it. The other thing is JFK wanted us out of Vietnam, and was thinking of breaking up the Federal Reserve!

It is part of the vast, right wing conspiracy, which, today is the Rothschild Banking Cartel and Khazarian Mafia in control.

JFK fired Dulles. Somehow Dulles got appointed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Dulles)to the Warren Commission.

OGIS
11-04-2015, 01:41 PM
I do agree that the same forces killed all three, and - IMO - it is the same entity which controls both political parties. This entity is quite old, and quite evil.

The Rhodes Foundation isn't that old.

The Sage of Main Street
11-04-2015, 05:00 PM
JFK and Bobby were killed as part of a deal to get the Russians to agree to backing down and losing face in the Cuban Missile Crisis. The Kennedys were both sheltered egomaniacal loose cannons who were carelessly wrecking America by their ignorant and simplistic policies.

Peter1469
11-04-2015, 05:08 PM
JFK and Bobby were killed as part of a deal to get the Russians to agree to backing down and losing face in the Cuban Missile Crisis. The Kennedys were both sheltered egomaniacal loose cannons who were carelessly wrecking America by their ignorant and simplistic policies.

There is not much, if any evidence for that theory.

Rouge elements in our government is more likely. Perhaps with the help or request from international banking elites.

OGIS
11-04-2015, 05:54 PM
JFK and Bobby were killed as part of a deal to get the Russians to agree to backing down and losing face in the Cuban Missile Crisis. The Kennedys were both sheltered egomaniacal loose cannons who were carelessly wrecking America by their ignorant and simplistic policies.

I think I read that novel.

The Sage of Main Street
11-05-2015, 04:09 PM
There is not much, if any evidence for that theory.

Rogue elements in our government is more likely. Perhaps with the help or request from international banking elites. A true Conservative wouldn't make JFK a victim. Nor would a true Liberal ever worship a spoiled conceited Preppy.

Peter1469
11-05-2015, 04:11 PM
A true Conservative wouldn't make JFK a victim. Nor would a true Liberal ever worship a spoiled conceited Preppy.

That has nothing to do with what happened to JFK.

Cletus
11-05-2015, 04:13 PM
The ultimate conspiracy theory.

Mark III
11-05-2015, 05:08 PM
This article is ridiculous. Lee Harvey Oswald had opportunity and means to kill Kennedy. Presidential assassins don't really need a motive, although his was determined to be his desire to impress his estranged wife. Oswald showed extreme consciousness of guilt after the assassination.

He did it.


People say, how could he make those shots ? The only reason we ask the question is because he did. If he had failed the question wouldn't exist. Things that seem improbable or "impossible" happen all the time.

It is what it is.

Those still wondering about the JFK killing, seek therapy.

Peter1469
11-05-2015, 05:12 PM
This article is ridiculous. Lee Harvey Oswald had opportunity and means to kill Kennedy. Presidential assassins don't really need a motive, although his was determined to be his desire to impress his estranged wife. Oswald showed extreme consciousness of guilt after the assassination.

He did it.


People say, how could he make those shots ? The only reason we ask the question is because he did. If he had failed the question wouldn't exist. Things that seem improbable or "impossible" happen all the time.

It is what it is.

Those still wondering about the JFK killing, seek therapy.

That is silly. Consider Oswald's poor marksmanship records from the Marines. Consider his ties to the CIA after.

The official story is more unbelievable than the leading conspiracy stories about JFK's removal.

Mark III
11-05-2015, 05:21 PM
That is silly. Consider Oswald's poor marksmanship records from the Marines. Consider his ties to the CIA after.

The official story is more unbelievable than the leading conspiracy stories about JFK's removal.

Oswald was not a poor marksman.

Look, Oswald's rifle was the murder weapon. If he didn't fire it, who did ?


Oswald was a lifelong loser who happened to take a job at the book depository. The time came when there was a newspaper article showing the President's route during his visit to Dallas. Oswald saw that the route was coming right past the place he now worked, and made his plan.

Whether he got a little lucky with the shot to the head or was good enough doesn't matter. Neither of those possibilities would be unusual for a plan that SUCCEEDED, which his did. If he had failed, he would have been arrested and charged with attempted murder instead of murder.

People like to go back and re-write history.


What if the radar operator at Pearl Harbor had recognized what he was seeing as a hostile formation instead of misreading it as a friendly formation ? He could have put out a warning that may have saved many hundreds of lives. But he didn't. It is what it is.

Cletus
11-05-2015, 05:23 PM
This article is ridiculous. Lee Harvey Oswald had opportunity and means to kill Kennedy. Presidential assassins don't really need a motive, although his was determined to be his desire to impress his estranged wife. Oswald showed extreme consciousness of guilt after the assassination.

He did it.


People say, how could he make those shots ? The only reason we ask the question is because he did. If he had failed the question wouldn't exist. Things that seem improbable or "impossible" happen all the time.

It is what it is.

Those still wondering about the JFK killing, seek therapy.


Agreed.

The Xl
11-05-2015, 05:42 PM
It's obvious special interests put a hit on them. John Kennedy especially had a lot of enemies in and out of the government

Cletus
11-05-2015, 05:46 PM
It's obvious special interests put a hit on them. John Kennedy especially had a lot of enemies in and out of the government

Name a President who hasn't.

Mark III
11-05-2015, 05:47 PM
It's obvious special interests put a hit on them. John Kennedy especially had a lot of enemies in and out of the government

Lone wolf political assassins have actually been quite common.

Peter1469
11-05-2015, 05:49 PM
Oswald was not a poor marksman.

Look, Oswald's rifle was the murder weapon. If he didn't fire it, who did ?


Oswald was a lifelong loser who happened to take a job at the book depository. The time came when there was a newspaper article showing the President's route during his visit to Dallas. Oswald saw that the route was coming right past the place he now worked, and made his plan.

Whether he got a little lucky with the shot to the head or was good enough doesn't matter. Neither of those possibilities would be unusual for a plan that SUCCEEDED, which his did. If he had failed, he would have been arrested and charged with attempted murder instead of murder.

People like to go back and re-write history.


What if the radar operator at Pearl Harbor had recognized what he was seeing as a hostile formation instead of misreading it as a friendly formation ? He could have put out a warning that may have saved many hundreds of lives. But he didn't. It is what it is.


JFK was hit from the front and the rear. Oswald couldn't do that. And his USMC records show average skills with a rifle.


According to his Marine score card (Commission Exhibit 239 (http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId=138307)), Oswald was tested twice:
In December 1956, after “a very intensive 3 weeks’ training period” (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.11, p.302 (http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId=20312)), Oswald scored 212: two marks above the minimum for a ‘sharpshooter’.
In May 1959, he scored 191: one mark above the minimum for a ‘marksman’.


And the rifle


It was examined by the FBI’s firearms specialist, who stated that:
Every time we changed the adjusting screws to move the crosshairs in the telescopic sight in one direction it also affected the movement of the impact or the point of impact in the other direction. … We fired several shots and found that the shots were not all landing in the same place, but were gradually moving away from the point of impact.
(Warren Commission Hearings, vol.3, p.405 (http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId=16613))





Oswald could not have killed JFK. He didn't have the skills. And the rifle was crap.

Link (http://22november1963.org.uk/lee-harvey-oswald-marksman-sharpshooter)

The Xl
11-05-2015, 05:51 PM
Lone wolf political assassins have actually been quite common.

We know you'll buy whatever ridiculous story your infallible government tells you. We get it.

Dude pissed off the federal reserve, the cia, the mafia, Lyndon Johnson, among others, but some random kid did it, who was apparently the greatest shot in history. Okay.

Cletus
11-05-2015, 05:51 PM
JFK was hit from the front and the rear.

Uh, no, he wasn't.


Oswald couldn't do that. And his USMC records show average skills with a rifle.

It wasn't a hard shot.

The Xl
11-05-2015, 05:52 PM
Name a President who hasn't.

Kennedy for all his faults, didn't always march in step with the interests who own the government. So he had to die. There is a reason why everyone who followed have been good little puppets.

Peter1469
11-05-2015, 05:52 PM
We know you'll buy whatever ridiculous story your infallible government tells you. We get it.

Dude pissed off the federal reserve, the cia, the mafia, Lyndon Johnson, among others, but some random kid did it, who was apparently the greatest shot in history. Okay.

Some random kid who was working for people with strong CIA connections.

Right.

Doctor Mary's Monkey (http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Marys-Monkey-Cancer-Causing-Assassination/dp/0977795306).

The Xl
11-05-2015, 05:54 PM
Some random kid who was working for people with strong CIA connections.

Right.

Doctor Mary's Monkey (http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Marys-Monkey-Cancer-Causing-Assassination/dp/0977795306).

Right, he was a proxy, a patsy at best.

Mark III
11-05-2015, 05:55 PM
JFK was hit from the front and the rear. Oswald couldn't do that. And his USMC records show average skills with a rifle.



And the rifle



Oswald could not have killed JFK. He didn't have the skills. And the rifle was crap.

Link (http://22november1963.org.uk/lee-harvey-oswald-marksman-sharpshooter)

I'm not going to debate a 52 year old murder, that has had millions of words written about it, on this forum. That ship sailed years and years ago.

Oswald's rifle was the murder weapon. He was at the site of the shooting. He showed extreme consciousness of guilt in the time period right after the killing. He did it.

There is no proof of a shot from the front and many experts reject that completely.


Oswald was excited when his target came into view. Some people perform worse under that excitement , and some perform better. The adrenaline evidently "upped his game" that afternoon.

Cletus
11-05-2015, 05:55 PM
Guys, it was only a 265 foot shit... 81 meters, 88 yards.

Ray Charles could have made that shot.

Peter1469
11-05-2015, 05:57 PM
Guys, it was only a 265 foot shit... 81 meters, 88 yards.

Ray Charles could have made that shot.

Untrue. Have you shot at a target from above?

Mark III
11-05-2015, 05:59 PM
We know you'll buy whatever ridiculous story your infallible government tells you. We get it.

Dude pissed off the federal reserve, the cia, the mafia, Lyndon Johnson, among others, but some random kid did it, who was apparently the greatest shot in history. Okay.

He didn't have to be the greatest shot in history.

Common
11-05-2015, 09:28 PM
The Confessions of a Naval Intelligence Officer: The Same Forces Killed JFK, RFK, and MLK (http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/11/the-confessions-of-a-naval-intelligence-officer-the-same-forces-killed-jfk-rfk-and-mlk-2472332.html?currentSplittedPage=0)


Many people believe the US fell to the Establishment during the decade when JFK, MLK, and RFK were assassinated. This article claims by the same group of people.

With RFK and MLK they caught both killers, to my knowledge neither even after spending years in prison ever said it was a conspiracy.

JFK was most certainly shady, everything about it didnt add up especially Jack Ruby being so very distraught over his death to Kill Oswald for it. That reeked of setup Ruby knew he was dieing.

Cletus
11-05-2015, 10:51 PM
Untrue. Have you shot at a target from above?

I have.

Oswald's shots have been reproduced many times by many different shooters. For some weird reason, people like to think it was some really difficult shot. It wasn't.

I know that takes some of the mystique out of it, but that is the way it is.

Green Arrow
11-06-2015, 10:10 PM
Not buying into it! too much evidence to the contrary.

Like what? The "Magic Bullet" theory alone blows the official story out of the water. You should know that, aren't you a firearms expert or something?

Cletus
11-06-2015, 10:14 PM
Untrue. Have you shot at a target from above?

It was only a 19 - 21 degree down angle.

Peter1469
11-06-2015, 10:16 PM
It was only a 19 - 21 degree down angle.

Even that is harder than no angle.

OGIS
11-06-2015, 11:45 PM
Like what? The "Magic Bullet" theory alone blows the official story out of the water. You should know that, aren't you a firearms expert or something?

Isn't that Tahuyaboy? Along with planning invasions and being a stone-assassin?

Mini Me
12-06-2015, 12:05 PM
You conspiracy doubters speak from ignorance, and not knowledge.

Read the book; "Double Cross" written by Sam Giancana, Jr. It blows the whole thing wide open!

Giancana and the Mob helped fund the kennedy candidacy, and felt betrayed when Bobby went after the mobsters!
Carlos Marcello, the New Orleans mob boss admitted that they ordered the hit! And Jack Ruby was with the mob ,and owed them money(a favor), and he had to kill Oswald, before Lee spilled his guts out about the whole deal! Lee was the perfect patsy; communist double agent for Russia and the CIA...expendable!

Giancana tried to frame Bobby when Marilyn Monroe was killed. He rammed a seconal supopository up her anus, then left, just before Bobby and Peter Lawford came into her house. This was in addition to excess alcohol she consumed.

There is a pic of another shooter on the Grassy Knoll. Looks like E.Howard Hunt, the CIA hitman and spook that did dirty biz for Nixon. Also consider that LBJ hated the kennedys, and had his own hitman on his payroll for years!

The banker crooks hated JFK, because he was making noises about folding up the Federal Reserve. And the MIC hated Jack, because he wanted us to pull out of Vietnam.

So we have them standing in like to whack the kennedys;

1) The mafia(and the FBI's J.Edgar Hoover, who hated them
2) The banker crooks
3) The CIA, after JFK fired Alan Dulles, and threatened to abolish the CIA
4) LBJ and his hatred for them
5) West Texas Oil men. The Bushes, Hunt bros., etc

Nixon once said; " Both Lyndon and I hated the Kennedy's, but only Lyndon would go so far as to whack him!"(paraphrase)

Why does H.W. Bush DENY he was in Dallas that fatefull day? (The man, who was in Naval Intelligence, and became head of the CIA). What is he covering up?

The same lowinfo's believe the shady Warren Commision Report as well as the phony 9/11 Report!

Warren Commision-stacked with Tri-lateralists and Nat. Security Council shills, like Gerald Ford, Kissinger, and other NWO puppets!