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KC
10-12-2012, 04:48 PM
Does anyone else really like old timey propaganda? Old posters, political campaign advertisements, buttons and other fun stuff from history.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq388zqiAn1qcr6iqo1_500.jpg

KC
10-12-2012, 04:56 PM
719

KC
10-12-2012, 04:59 PM
720

KC
10-12-2012, 05:06 PM
Good ol' American partisan racism.

721

KC
10-12-2012, 05:16 PM
722

KC
10-12-2012, 05:22 PM
723

GrumpyDog
10-12-2012, 05:56 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41-opHIGpmL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Uh.. the Atheist does not question whether God is dead.. uh.. because the Atheist DOES NOT ACKNOWLEDGE that there ever was any existence of any Gods.

Okay, so now.. the SKEPTIC.. he is the one who is not certain.. so .. uh.. he needs a guide? to understand why the Atheist thinks that God is Dead.. uh..WHAT THE...??

The Skeptic, in effect being the Agnostic, is not certain either way, so, he is not certain that Atheism, is any more or less valid than Theism is. So the guide to Atheism, should not have any such statement that "God is this that or the other", since the purpose of the guide, is to inform the Skeptic of what the basic premise of Atheism is.

And the basic premise of Atheism is: NO GODS EXIST.

So as soon as the Skeptic reads the sub title "God is not Dead" right below the main title of a book trying to explain Atheism, .. the skeptic will react by being highly suspicious that this book is probably a lot of propaganda.
No Skeptic will probably want to buy the book once he realizes the paradox

which means
that the author was a true moron for writing such a book in the first place, since he obviously does not understand Skeptics any more than he understands Atheists. So the author is de facto, the WORST person to consult as a "Guide" by anyone who is trying to understand Atheism.

UNLESS... the author of the book was actually thinking of writing a guide on Atheism for Dummies, and thought perhaps that the word "Skeptic" was a more polite term to use.

Or.. the book is a Comics guide to understanding why the Skeptic would need a guide to Atheism written by a Moron.

Trinnity
10-12-2012, 06:01 PM
Good ol' American partisan racism.

721Wow....

Chris
10-12-2012, 06:50 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41-opHIGpmL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Uh.. the Atheist does not question whether God is dead.. uh.. because the Atheist DOES NOT ACKNOWLEDGE that there ever was any existence of any Gods.

Okay, so now.. the SKEPTIC.. he is the one who is not certain.. so .. uh.. he needs a guide? to understand why the Atheist thinks that God is Dead.. uh..WHAT THE...??

The Skeptic, in effect being the Agnostic, is not certain either way, so, he is not certain that Atheism, is any more or less valid than Theism is. So the guide to Atheism, should not have any such statement that "God is this that or the other", since the purpose of the guide, is to inform the Skeptic of what the basic premise of Atheism is.

And the basic premise of Atheism is: NO GODS EXIST.

So as soon as the Skeptic reads the sub title "God is not Dead" right below the main title of a book trying to explain Atheism, .. the skeptic will react by being highly suspicious that this book is probably a lot of propaganda.
No Skeptic will probably want to buy the book once he realizes the paradox

which means
that the author was a true moron for writing such a book in the first place, since he obviously does not understand Skeptics any more than he understands Atheists. So the author is de facto, the WORST person to consult as a "Guide" by anyone who is trying to understand Atheism.

UNLESS... the author of the book was actually thinking of writing a guide on Atheism for Dummies, and thought perhaps that the word "Skeptic" was a more polite term to use.

Or.. the book is a Comics guide to understanding why the Skeptic would need a guide to Atheism written by a Moron.

Too many confuse atheism with antitheism. A- means without, anti- against. Anarchy, amoral, apathy, atypical

Deadwood
10-12-2012, 07:04 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41-opHIGpmL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Uh.. the Atheist does not question whether God is dead.. uh.. because the Atheist DOES NOT ACKNOWLEDGE that there ever was any existence of any Gods.

Okay, so now.. the SKEPTIC.. he is the one who is not certain.. so .. uh.. he needs a guide? to understand why the Atheist thinks that God is Dead.. uh..WHAT THE...??

The Skeptic, in effect being the Agnostic, is not certain either way, so, he is not certain that Atheism, is any more or less valid than Theism is. So the guide to Atheism, should not have any such statement that "God is this that or the other", since the purpose of the guide, is to inform the Skeptic of what the basic premise of Atheism is.

And the basic premise of Atheism is: NO GODS EXIST.

So as soon as the Skeptic reads the sub title "God is not Dead" right below the main title of a book trying to explain Atheism, .. the skeptic will react by being highly suspicious that this book is probably a lot of propaganda.
No Skeptic will probably want to buy the book once he realizes the paradox

which means
that the author was a true moron for writing such a book in the first place, since he obviously does not understand Skeptics any more than he understands Atheists. So the author is de facto, the WORST person to consult as a "Guide" by anyone who is trying to understand Atheism.

UNLESS... the author of the book was actually thinking of writing a guide on Atheism for Dummies, and thought perhaps that the word "Skeptic" was a more polite term to use.

Or.. the book is a Comics guide to understanding why the Skeptic would need a guide to Atheism written by a Moron.


A little too much free time on your hands?

KC
10-12-2012, 10:56 PM
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41-opHIGpmL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Uh.. the Atheist does not question whether God is dead.. uh.. because the Atheist DOES NOT ACKNOWLEDGE that there ever was any existence of any Gods.

Okay, so now.. the SKEPTIC.. he is the one who is not certain.. so .. uh.. he needs a guide? to understand why the Atheist thinks that God is Dead.. uh..WHAT THE...??

The Skeptic, in effect being the Agnostic, is not certain either way, so, he is not certain that Atheism, is any more or less valid than Theism is. So the guide to Atheism, should not have any such statement that "God is this that or the other", since the purpose of the guide, is to inform the Skeptic of what the basic premise of Atheism is.

And the basic premise of Atheism is: NO GODS EXIST.

So as soon as the Skeptic reads the sub title "God is not Dead" right below the main title of a book trying to explain Atheism, .. the skeptic will react by being highly suspicious that this book is probably a lot of propaganda.
No Skeptic will probably want to buy the book once he realizes the paradox

which means
that the author was a true moron for writing such a book in the first place, since he obviously does not understand Skeptics any more than he understands Atheists. So the author is de facto, the WORST person to consult as a "Guide" by anyone who is trying to understand Atheism.

UNLESS... the author of the book was actually thinking of writing a guide on Atheism for Dummies, and thought perhaps that the word "Skeptic" was a more polite term to use.

Or.. the book is a Comics guide to understanding why the Skeptic would need a guide to Atheism written by a Moron.

Are you sure this is the right thread?

KC
10-12-2012, 10:58 PM
Wow....

To think that at one time it was an advantage for the Dems to show such outright racism.

GrumpyDog
10-13-2012, 03:52 AM
Are you sure this is the right thread?

Well, it was religion, rant, or this thread. Since there is little difference in rant, religion, or propaganda, and propaganda being the newest subject of the 3, naturally, gravitated towards the new thread, did I.

shaarona
10-13-2012, 03:58 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LQRC_ddX2jk/Thz89TInrWI/AAAAAAAAA3E/xk1O9ERrm2s/s1600/lg3516%2Bdevils-harvest-reefer-madness-poster.jpg

GrumpyDog
10-13-2012, 10:03 AM
http://greatdaneservicedog.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/102248597.jpg

Mister D
10-13-2012, 10:16 AM
I'm really into radical right propaganda images. This is a recruitment poster for the Belgian Waffen SS. I have an original application at home for this division but these color posters are hard to find and expensive. They are out there though. I've seen them for sale.


http://metaldetectingworld.com/ww2_military_relics/german_poster_waffen_ss.jpg


I managaned to come across quite a few images (all from propaganda newspapers) and various recruitment materials for the Galician SS. The Waffen SS created a Ukrainian division in 1943 and Ukrainain nationalists flocked to what was called SS Galicia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Ukra inian)

I have this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/Dyvizia_Galychyna.svg/210px-Dyvizia_Galychyna.svg.png

These sleeve shields were cloth and mine looks unissued. A lot of insignia meant for recently raised (desperately raised...)Waffen SS troops was just lying around after the war. GIs took many home but I forget where I acquired mine, actually.

Captain Obvious
10-13-2012, 11:20 AM
http://images.politico.com/global/2012/10/1201012_carney_ap_605.jpg

Conley
10-13-2012, 10:03 PM
I have this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/Dyvizia_Galychyna.svg/210px-Dyvizia_Galychyna.svg.png

These sleeve shields were cloth and mine looks unissued. A lot of insignia meant for recently raised (desperately raised...)Waffen SS troops was just lying around after the war. GIs took many home but I forget where I acquired mine, actually.

That looks Swedish to me...I guess there's only so many things you can do with those colors, crowns, and lions :laugh:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Armoiries_Suède_moderne.svg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Armoiries_Suède_ancien.svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Sweden

KC
10-14-2012, 12:51 PM
I have this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/Dyvizia_Galychyna.svg/210px-Dyvizia_Galychyna.svg.png

These sleeve shields were cloth and mine looks unissued. A lot of insignia meant for recently raised (desperately raised...)Waffen SS troops was just lying around after the war. GIs took many home but I forget where I acquired mine, actually.

Wait, you actually have one of these banners?

KC
10-14-2012, 08:26 PM
Clearly the Japanese in WWII wanted nothing more than to kill pretty American housewives.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_OS205iap6fc/S7PxuQP4EZI/AAAAAAAAAA8/sXkxrMFbe7A/s1600/1942x~This_is_the_Enemy_US_[2][1].jpghttp://images.huffingtonpost.com/2010-12-20-wwiipropagandacrazy.jpg

Deadwood
10-14-2012, 08:32 PM
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=I.4947094400533580&pid=1.9

Deadwood
10-14-2012, 08:33 PM
http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=I.4738221564166430&pid=1.9

Deadwood
10-14-2012, 08:39 PM
http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4546391153705254&pid=1.9

KC
10-14-2012, 10:49 PM
http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4546391153705254&pid=1.9

Are there any larger versions of this? I'm really curious what this one is but I can't make out the details too well.

Mister D
10-15-2012, 07:55 AM
Wait, you actually have one of these banners?

It's a sleeve shield that was sewn on the right (?) arm. I have several swastika banners though. I'm an avid collector but I haven't bought anything ever since I bought the house. Been about two years or so.

Mister D
10-15-2012, 07:57 AM
That looks Swedish to me...I guess there's only so many things you can do with those colors, crowns, and lions :laugh:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Armoiries_Suède_moderne.svg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Armoiries_Suède_ancien.svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Sweden

lol Yeah, I guess lions and crowns are pretty popular. Eagles too. :grin:

Mister D
10-15-2012, 10:54 AM
http://www.greatdreams.com/war/WWII-propaganda.png

GrumpyDog
10-15-2012, 10:57 AM
http://www.philo5.com/images/textesFB/050310LesJesus09.jpg


http://www.awitness.org/journal/mel_gibson_passion_white_christ.html

Mister D
10-15-2012, 11:00 AM
Wrong thread again...

Mister D
10-16-2012, 12:49 PM
http://knightsandsteel.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/knights_and_steel18.jpg

You too! Your Comrades Await You in the French Divison of the Waffen-SS.

KC
10-16-2012, 12:53 PM
http://knightsandsteel.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/knights_and_steel18.jpg

You too! Your Comrades Await You in the French Divison of the Waffen-SS.


Thanks for providing a translation, D. I always wonder what these are saying, and sometimes Professor Google isn't very useful.

Mister D
10-16-2012, 12:55 PM
It's for the 33rd Waffen SS which was called Charlemagne. I think so anyway. There was also a SS Brigade called Frankreich which was dissolved and served as a cadre for Charlemagne in 1944.

KC
10-17-2012, 12:21 AM
http://varifrank.com/images/RUL09933.jpg

How have you helped the front?

Mister D
10-17-2012, 07:40 AM
This thread is making me want to make another militaria purchase...:undecided:

KC
10-17-2012, 10:02 AM
This thread is making me want to make another militaria purchase...:undecided:
I'd like to collectstuff like that but it seems so expensive. More recently I started collecting pins, especially campaign pins.

Mister D
10-17-2012, 10:20 AM
I'd like to collectstuff like that but it seems so expensive. More recently I started collecting pins, especially campaign pins.

Not true! I started collecting when I started college. Must have been 1998? Anyway, it really depends on your interests. Sure, if you like SS daggers or Hitler's private silverware it's going to be expensive but I like propaganda, documents, flags, and soft headgear. I was into Nazi memorabilia for a long while but my favorite is actually early WW1 French uniforms.

http://britishbattles.homestead.com/files/europe/france/VNICE_1914_french_inf.jpg

I love those early war uniforms. I have several kepis and a pair of those red pants. Weird, I know. :grin: Just start collecting whatever catches your eye. I never really stuck with a particular period or genre.

KC
10-17-2012, 10:33 AM
Not true! I started collecting when I started college. Must have been 1998? Anyway, it really depends on your interests. Sure, if you like SS daggers or Hitler's private silverware it's going to be expensive but I like propaganda, documents, flags, and soft headgear. I was into Nazi memorabilia for a long while but my favorite is actually early WW1 French uniforms.

http://britishbattles.homestead.com/files/europe/france/VNICE_1914_french_inf.jpg

I love those early war uniforms. I have several kepis and a pair of those red pants. Weird, I know. :grin: Just start collecting whatever catches your eye. I never really stuck with a particular period or genre.

Do you mostly find your stuff online?

Mister D
10-17-2012, 10:39 AM
Usually. I was active on Ebay for a long time and it was great because my interests kind of insulated me from fakes. I wasn't buying things that are worth faking. Plus, I developed a feel for WW2 era paper.

Now I usually browse online shops like these:

http://advanceguardmilitaria.com/

http://www.germanmilitaria.com/

Beevee
10-17-2012, 11:24 AM
http://www.sterlingtimes.org/memorable_images53.htm

YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU

KC
10-17-2012, 02:52 PM
http://www.sterlingtimes.org/memorable_images53.htm

YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU

I find it crazy how many posters during WWI & WWII depict a male, usually of authority, pointing at the viewer and telling them to take responsibility for their country.

Beevee
10-17-2012, 03:06 PM
I find it crazy how many posters during WWI & WWII depict a male, usually of authority, pointing at the viewer and telling them to take responsibility for their country.

I doubt it would work these days.

My response would be 'After you'.

Mister D
10-17-2012, 03:07 PM
I doubt it would work these days.

My response would be 'After you'.

Right. That's nothing to be proud of.

KC
10-17-2012, 03:11 PM
I doubt it would work these days.

My response would be 'After you'.

You're probably right. Today I doubt it would work. We can look to the sixties to find out why. But it's easy to say what we would have done in those people's shoes while ignoring the reality they faced. At the outset of WWI there was a ton of social pressure to participate.

roadmaster
10-17-2012, 03:57 PM
Times were different back then and also the draft didn't stop until 1973.

Beevee
10-17-2012, 04:32 PM
Right. That's nothing to be proud of.

Wait a minute. You think I would care about my pride if it contributed to saving my life when the filth that represents politicians these days make a ton of cash on the lives of those placed at risk?

roadmaster
10-17-2012, 04:36 PM
Wait a minute. You think I would care about my pride if it contributed to saving my life when the filth that represents politicians these days make a ton of cash on the lives of those placed at risk?

Are you saying if a real threat to your country happens that you would not step up?

Beevee
10-17-2012, 04:53 PM
Are you saying if a real threat to your country happens that you would not step up?

Bloody right I wouldn't. At 72 I would be more of a hindrance than a help.

roadmaster
10-17-2012, 05:00 PM
Bloody right I wouldn't. At 72 I would be more of a hindrance than a help.

Not sure about that. The older the wiser and most of us older ones would at least stand our ground in our own country. I was not talking about going to another country to fight.

Beevee
10-17-2012, 05:23 PM
Not sure about that. The older the wiser and most of us older ones would at least stand our ground in our own country. I was not talking about going to another country to fight.

The only country likely to invade Canada is America.

So, it would be best that I keep my distance and let the rest of the Canadian population do a far better job than I could. (Wink - because the icon doesn't work for me)

KC
10-17-2012, 05:24 PM
The only country likely to invade Canada is America.


We don't need to-- you guys will sell us that tar sand oil without a war!

Beevee
10-17-2012, 05:30 PM
We don't need to-- you guys will sell us that tar sand oil without a war!

Sounds like 'You are either with us or against us'

Now, where have I heard that remark before?

KC
10-17-2012, 05:44 PM
Sounds like 'You are either with us or against us'

Now, where have I heard that remark before?

I think it was the American head of government whose Ministry of Homeland Security issued this poster.

http://prepography.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Know-Your-Place-Shut-Your-Face.jpg

Disclaimer: This poster is not real propaganda.

Beevee
10-17-2012, 05:51 PM
I think it was the American head of government whose Ministry of Homeland Security issued this poster.http://prepography.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Know-Your-Place-Shut-Your-Face.jpg

Disclaimer: This poster is not real propaganda.

But it could apply to a few former Presidents.

KC
10-17-2012, 05:54 PM
My thoughts exactly.

President Lincoln is one notable example.

Beevee
10-17-2012, 05:58 PM
My thoughts exactly.

President Lincoln is one notable example.

So if you would apply it to the first Republican President, would you apply it to all former Republican Presidents?

KC
10-17-2012, 06:02 PM
So if you would apply it to the first Republican President, would you apply it to all former Republican Presidents?

Not without doing some research. I don't particularly care for many of America's presidents. Starting with Jackson I find few examples of really great presidents.

Lincoln gets a bad wrap for suspending the writ of Habeas Corpus.

GrumpyDog
10-17-2012, 08:57 PM
http://timeswampland.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/boehnerchart.jpg

IGetItAlready
10-17-2012, 09:02 PM
Does anyone else really like old timey propaganda? Old posters, political campaign advertisements, buttons and other fun stuff from history.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq388zqiAn1qcr6iqo1_500.jpg

I love this kind of shit! Even when it's anti-American. It illustrates a dedication to nation and country that we in America have apparently long forgotten...to my great dismay.

KC
10-17-2012, 09:09 PM
I love this kind of shit! Even when it's anti-American. It illustrates a dedication to nation and country that we in America have apparently long forgotten...to my great dismay.

Couldn't agree more. You can learn so much about the times through the old propaganda posters.

IGetItAlready
10-17-2012, 09:10 PM
http://timeswampland.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/boehnerchart.jpg

762

IGetItAlready
10-17-2012, 09:13 PM
762

Not sure how to make this diagram big enough to read but you can find it under


Barack Obama, Cloward-Piven, and the Radical Left (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/cloward-piven-chart.pdf)

at http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1511

roadmaster
10-18-2012, 06:04 AM
We don't need to-- you guys will sell us that tar sand oil without a war!

LOL, got that one right.

roadmaster
10-18-2012, 06:06 AM
The only country likely to invade Canada is America.

So, it would be best that I keep my distance and let the rest of the Canadian population do a far better job than I could. (Wink - because the icon doesn't work for me)

Well it would be the North not the South of the US. Too cold for us.:grin:

Mister D
10-18-2012, 10:21 AM
The only country likely to invade Canada is America.

So, it would be best that I keep my distance and let the rest of the Canadian population do a far better job than I could. (Wink - because the icon doesn't work for me)

My state's national guard could conquer Canada.

KC
10-18-2012, 04:06 PM
My state's national guard could conquer Canada.

My coworker talks about how she once worked as a bartender on a Canadian military base. My initial reaction:

"Canada has a military?!"

:grin:

KC
10-18-2012, 04:26 PM
Canadian war time propaganda:

http://www3.nfb.ca/fm455w/Collections/Photos/WWII/Rubrique3_Le_front_interieur/Section1_Les_femmes_et_la_guerre/3-1-1_19890086-512.jpg

Captain Obvious
10-18-2012, 06:05 PM
Rags?

KC
10-18-2012, 06:23 PM
Rags?

They're Canadians.

For all I know maybe they use em as weapons.

:grin:

Mister D
10-19-2012, 02:53 PM
I always thought this was funny. It's a classic anti-Reagan poster

http://www.politicalgraphics.org/album/29graphics_gipper/015_PG_09470r.jpg

coolwalker
10-19-2012, 03:03 PM
776 Everyone loves a Booby Trap! 777 There is of course the snob one.

Mister D
10-19-2012, 03:10 PM
Another Nazi poster aimed at subject Soviet populations.

http://robertlindsay.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/free_caucasusfrombolsheviktyranny.jpg

“Free Caucasus From Bolshevik Tyranny.”

KC
10-19-2012, 03:39 PM
Another Nazi poster aimed at subject Soviet populations.

http://robertlindsay.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/free_caucasusfrombolsheviktyranny.jpg

“Free Caucasus From Bolshevik Tyranny.”

Wonderful. I love ironic posters.

Mister D
10-19-2012, 03:41 PM
Wonderful. I love ironic posters.

Believe it or not, not a few volunteered for service with the Wehrmacht.

KC
10-19-2012, 03:41 PM
776 Everyone loves a Booby Trap!

There are a lot of these anti prostitution posters in WWII. They're fun, I'll post a few sometime.

Mister D
10-19-2012, 03:48 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YYMeAu4i7gA/SxOD7xTMUxI/AAAAAAAAHIE/QAEMcSDXc3Q/s1600/foreign-soldiers-german-nazi-army-wehrmacht-ww2-second-world-war-amazing-incredible-dramtic-pics-pictures-photos-image-japanese-fighters.jpg

Mongoloid volunteers.

Mister D
10-20-2012, 09:40 AM
Crazy story I read recently: a member of the French SS (the Charlemagne, I believe, but it might have been an earlier formation) was captured on the Eastern Front, escaped from a POW camp in the far east of the USSR, reached a Mongol tribe, and fought with the tribe against the Soviet state. He even married a Mongol woman. When the Soviets finally brought the Mongol rebels into line he was captured yet again and repatriated to France where he died in the 1970s. :shocked:

KC
10-20-2012, 10:32 AM
Crazy story I read recently: a member of the French SS (the Charlemagne, I believe, but it might have been an earlier formation) was captured on the Eastern Front, escaped from a POW camp in the far east of the USSR, reached a Mongol tribe, and fought with the tribe against the Soviet state. He even married a Mongol woman. When the Soviets finally brought the Mongol rebels into line he was captured yet again and repatriated to France where he died in the 1970s. :shocked:

That sounds like a movie. Cast the SS soldier as Tom Cruise a la The Last Samurai and have him meet some hot mongol chick and you've got a blockbuster

Mister D
10-23-2012, 08:29 AM
That sounds like a movie. Cast the SS soldier as Tom Cruise a la The Last Samurai and have him meet some hot mongol chick and you've got a blockbuster

I prefer no name actors. Remember that 1981 film Excalibur? I was about 6 or 7 when that came on HBO. I must have watched it a dozen times. I still like that movie and I'm not a movie fan. I think it's because I don't associate the actors in that film with anything but that film.

Deadwood
10-23-2012, 08:41 AM
http://www.sterlingtimes.org/memorable_images53.htm

YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU



Lord Kitchener was a fascinating character. My home town was named after him...and, it was years later that I discoveered that he was the inventor of concentrations camps, during the Boer war, in fact

Deadwood
10-23-2012, 08:51 AM
Sounds like 'You are either with us or against us'

Now, where have I heard that remark before?


That's been standard for so many presidents and leader's world wide it's almost a joke. As a boomer I used to access to a lot of WWII propaganda. Both FDR and HST used it and Johnson played that hand again and again in the face of growing student protest in the Viet Nam war.

As a war protester I saw how it divided families.

The US is more than free to invade Canada. We'd love to have the pay for medicare.

Deadwood
10-23-2012, 08:56 AM
My coworker talks about how she once worked as a bartender on a Canadian military base. My initial reaction:

"Canada has a military?!"

:grin:

I had much the same attitude, that was until the body bags started coming home from Kandahar. Canadian troops suffered the highest per capita losses in Afghanistan.


http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2008/11/11/7372241.htm

Mister D
10-23-2012, 09:09 AM
Lord Kitchener was a fascinating character. My home town was named after him...and, it was years later that I discoveered that he was the inventor of concentrations camps, during the Boer war, in fact

I think the Pals Battalions of WW1 were his idea. That was dropped after the Somme.

Deadwood
10-23-2012, 09:18 AM
I think the Pals Battalions of WW1 were his idea. That was dropped after the Somme.

I am not sure if I know what you mean. What is the Pals Battalions?

Mister D
10-23-2012, 09:21 AM
I am not sure if I know what you mean. What is the Pals Battalions?

The government would hold neighborhood specific recruiting drives and all the volunteers would be grouped into the same units. The idea being that men would be more likely to enlist if they served alongside their friends and relatives. The problem was that when a particular unit suffered heavy losses it meant that a particular neighborhood suffered disproportionately.

KC
10-23-2012, 01:38 PM
I had much the same attitude, that was until the body bags started coming home from Kandahar. Canadian troops suffered the highest per capita losses in Afghanistan.


http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2008/11/11/7372241.htm

The link is broken for me, but all the same that is sad to hear. I wish that none of our allies had went along side us to fight in Afghanistan, but I honor their losses all the same.

Deadwood
10-23-2012, 01:58 PM
As well, Canadian citizens opened their homes to air travelers stranded by the air space shut down after 911. We fed them and housed several thousand them in our homes. 90% of them were Americans.

The US government has never officially thanked those Canadians nor the country for their contribution in Afghanistan. In fact G.W. Bush ignored the fact when he said Britain and Tony Blair was "America's best friend" and Obama was miffed that Canada did not renew its combat roll. It is said he and Stephen Harper are NOT on speaking terms.

KC
10-23-2012, 02:02 PM
As well, Canadian citizens opened their homes to air travelers stranded by the air space shut down after 911. We fed them and housed several thousand them in our homes. 90% of them were Americans.

The US government has never officially thanked those Canadians nor the country for their contribution in Afghanistan. In fact G.W. Bush ignored the fact when he said Britain and Tony Blair was "America's best friend" and Obama was miffed that Canada did not renew its combat roll. It is said he and Stephen Harper are NOT on speaking terms.

American/British Politicians get a mutual benefit from highlighting our "special relationship." I guess it just gives the electorate the warm fuzzies or something.

On the other had when we think of Canada the only things that come to mind are hockey, beer and medical coverage. Maybe we should start thinking more about our friends up North, not just our ones across the Atlantic.

Mister D
10-30-2012, 09:05 PM
http://img.scoop.co.nz/stories/images/0412/58d7bf70abaedfc29043.jpeg

Conley
10-30-2012, 09:40 PM
"Jug-end-her-burgen"

Ok, well if you insist!

Kinky...

:grin:

Melnyk
09-06-2015, 08:25 AM
Hi Alain

I am an author of a book on the Galician Division and am 3 weeks away from a second book on the same subject which has taken me 25 years to pout together. I would be very interested to know what material you have come across on this unit - especially if its original. I would be pleased to help you with any inquiries about this unit which is the field of my expertise

best wishes

Mike Melnyk

Mister D
09-06-2015, 10:37 AM
Hi Alain

I am an author of a book on the Galician Division and am 3 weeks away from a second book on the same subject which has taken me 25 years to pout together. I would be very interested to know what material you have come across on this unit - especially if its original. I would be pleased to help you with any inquiries about this unit which is the field of my expertise

best wishes

Mike Melnyk

Hi Mike,

I will try to take some digital photos and post them later this week. What is the title of your first book?

Mister D
09-26-2015, 06:14 PM
I guess this guy disappeared. Unfortunately, the digital camera I borrowed just capture the text and images clearly enough.