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jgreer
10-22-2011, 01:28 PM
Let's talk about it here.

jgreer
10-22-2011, 01:31 PM
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2015518490_mexico06.html

Douglas Massey, a director of the Mexican Migration Project at Princeton, an extensive, long-term survey in Mexican emigration hubs, said his research showed interest in heading to the United States for the first time had fallen to its lowest level since at least the 1950s.

"No one wants to hear it, but the [illegal] flow has already stopped," Massey said. "For the first time in 60 years, the net traffic has gone to zero and is probably a little bit negative."

The decline in illegal immigration, from a country responsible for roughly six of every 10 illegal immigrants in the United States, is stark. The Mexican census recently discovered 4 million more people in Mexico than had been projected, which officials attributed to a sharp decline in emigration.

U.S. census figures analyzed by the nonpartisan Pew Hispanic Center also show the illegal Mexican population in the United States has shrunk and that fewer than 100,000 illegal border-crossers and visa-violators from Mexico settled in the United States in 2010

jgreer
10-22-2011, 01:32 PM
So saying millions come here illegally from Mexico every year is a LIE!

jgreer
10-22-2011, 02:14 PM
More PROOF:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/07/06/world/americas/immigration.html

Mister D
10-22-2011, 02:21 PM
So saying millions come here illegally from Mexico every year is a LIE!


No one claimed this, greer. Sorry, I didn't mean to pop your balloon. :'(

Mister D
10-22-2011, 02:22 PM
In addition, I wasn't talking about illegal immigration. I am talking immigration PERIOD. Our sputtering economy has its silver lining in that fewer migrants are being drawn here.


The decline in illegal immigration, from a country responsible for roughly six of every 10 illegal immigrants in the United States, is stark.

Right. 6 of 10 illegal immigrants and a significant number of legal immigrants. So, greer, how do you think importing poor people will affect this gap in wealth?

jgreer
10-22-2011, 02:47 PM
Well I don't think it will have much of an effect at al because we already have a huge wealth gap in this country. So what do you think? Even if you don't care about brown people you have to admit normal every day white people are suffering too if you hadn't noticed.

Mister D
10-22-2011, 03:16 PM
Well I don't think it will have much of an effect at al because we already have a huge wealth gap in this country. So what do you think? Even if you don't care about brown people you have to admit normal every day white people are suffering too if you hadn't noticed.


It's not a matter of caring about brown people. It's a matter of having created a new brown underclass in the US to complement our already existing black underclass. This is a very serious matter, greer. It does bode well for our future.

jgreer
10-22-2011, 03:36 PM
Well if your argument is against legalized immigration I guess you should be angry at the politicians and not the Mexicans. I still say that the low income Mexicans are doing jobs Americans don't want. They aren't taking away real jobs.

Once people become citizens it doesn't matter what color they are or where they came from the government owes them the same as it does everyone else. A lot of our military is brown or black too if you hadn't noticed. They shouldn't be thought of as 2nd class citizens.

Mister D
10-22-2011, 03:55 PM
Well if your argument is against legalized immigration I guess you should be angry at the politicians and not the Mexicans. I still say that the low income Mexicans are doing jobs Americans don't want. They aren't taking away real jobs.

Once people become citizens it doesn't matter what color they are or where they came from the government owes them the same as it does everyone else. A lot of our military is brown or black too if you hadn't noticed. They shouldn't be thought of as 2nd class citizens.


I'm not angry with Latin American migrants. I understand that most of them are just looking for work. That said, there is no such thing as a job Americans won't do and those employers addicted to slave labor (e.g. farmers, meat industry) need to adjust. The steady supply of cheap alien labor has made these industries stagnant in certain respects. There is a saying: Japan gets robots while we get Mexicans. Cutting that supply off will be a good thing.

In economic terms (leaving aside all the social problems and tensions caused by the massive influx of Hispanics) they are out-competing blacks but failing to compete well with whites and Asians.

MMC
10-23-2011, 06:52 AM
http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/acsbr10-15.pdf

During the last 50 years, the number of foreign born from Latin America and the Caribbean has increased rapidly, from less than
1 million in 1960 to 21.2 million in 2010.1 Currently, the foreign born from Latin America represent over half of the total foreign-born population. This brief will discuss the size, place of birth, citizenship status, and geographic distribution of the foreign born from Latin America in the United States. It presents data on the foreign born from Latin America at the national and state levels based on the 2010 American Community Survey (ACS).

In 2010, 309.3 million people lived in the United States, including 40.0 million foreign born (13 percent of the total population). In 2000, 31.1 million of the 281.4 million U.S. residents were foreign born—11 percent of the total population. Over the decade, the foreign-born population increased by 8.8 million.Over half (53 percent) of all foreign-born U.S. residents in 2010 were from Latin America (Table 1). Another 28 percent were from Asia. The next largest world region-of-birth group, the foreign born from Europe,
represented 12 percent of all foreign born—less than half the size of the foreign
born from Asia. About 4 percent of the foreign born were born
in Africa and 3 percent werefrom other regions, including Oceania and Northern America. The single largest country-of birth group was from Mexico (29
percent of all foreign born).....snip~

From the Census and INS..... looks like those Numbers you were sporting JG doesnt seem to add up. Course not like those in Princeton nor from the Hispanic Pew Center would really know. No matter how much they study.

MMC
10-23-2011, 07:15 AM
FINDINGS
In 2000, 16.1 million foreign
born from Latin America lived
in the United States. Over the
last 10 years, the foreign-born
population from Latin America
increased by 5.1 million,
reaching 21.2 million in 2010.
The majority of the foreign born
from Latin America were from
Central America (70 percent),
followed by the Caribbean
(18 percent), and South America
(13 percent) (Table 2). Mexico
accounted for more than half
(55 percent) of the foreign born
from Latin America. El Salvador
and Cuba each represented
more than 5 percent. Among the
foreign born from the Caribbean,
those born in Cuba (30 percent)
and the Dominican Republic (24
percent) represented the largest
proportion of all foreign born.
Over three-fourths of all foreign
born from Central America were
born in Mexico (79 percent).
Colombia represented the largest
share of the foreign born from
South America (23 percent).
Although the foreign born
from Latin America were found
across the country, most were
concentrated in only a few states.
In 2010, 26 percent (or 5.5
million) of the foreign born from
Latin America lived in California,
14 percent (or 3.0 million) in
Texas, 13 percent (or 2.8 million)

Central America represented more
than half of the Latin American
foreign born (Table 3). The foreign
born from Mexico represented
about 9 out of 10 foreign born
from Latin America in New
Mexico, Arizona, and Idaho. The
foreign born from the Caribbean
represented about one-third of
the Latin American foreign born
in seven states. Two of these
states—Florida (55 percent) and
New York (49 percent)—each
have Latin American foreign-born
populations of 2 million or more.

In 2010, 32 percent of the foreignborn
population from Latin America
were naturalized citizens (Table 4).
The foreign-born population from
Central America had the lowest
percent naturalized of all regions
of birth (24 percent). Of those born
in the Caribbean, 54 percent were
naturalized citizens. About 44
percent of the foreign born from
South America were naturalized
citizens. Among the country-ofbirth
groups shown, Jamaica (61
percent) and Cuba (56 percent) had
the highest percent naturalized. By
comparison, Mexico (23 percent)
and Honduras (21 percent) were
among the countries with the
lowest percent naturalized.

SOURCE AND ACCURACY
Data presented in this report are
based on people and households
that responded to the ACS in
2010. The resulting estimates
are representative of the entire
population. All comparisons
presented in this report have taken
sampling error into account and
are significant at the 90 percent
confidence level unless otherwise
noted. Due to rounding, some
details may not sum to totals.
For information on sampling and
estimation methods, confidentiality
protection, and sampling and nonsampling errors, please see the
“2010 ACS Accuracy of the Data”
document located at
<www.census.gov/acs/www
/Downloads/data_documentation
/Accuracy/ACS_Accuracy
_of_Data_2010.pdf>.

The charts also show the break-down by state.....so much for only a Hundred thousand entering the country or none at all. Perhaps whoever it was from Princeton that made such a statement should be completely discreditied as an educator. To Bad it was Eric Dyson. I would luv to tear that asswipe up on Television. Please Dyson use some big words you don't even know how to use them in the right context. But he is suppose to be a professor. Let me guess. Liberal Arts. Right. ::)

Heya Dyson.....that dusty, hard calous hands. That comes from holding a real job and not afraid of a little dirt and swet. Obviously something which you know nothing of. I notice he pimps Obama.....yet fails to ever come to Chicago where his Ego will get put into proper perspective. DYSON = SHEEPLE! Now theres a big word for you to understand Dyson. When You look up the definiton. Just look into a mirror. http://politirant.com/Smileys/oldrant/rant.gif

MMC
10-24-2011, 10:21 AM
Seems the census kinda knows what it is talking about. Which includes INS. Again regardless of the numbers coming in presently. The impact has already been noted by the Fed. As well as both Political Parties.

Conley
10-24-2011, 10:24 AM
Yes, the numbers are damning. There's no way around it. The economic impact and the sheer number of immigrants. At this point what can be done? It is clear the pols in DC won't lift a finger. The only way I can see them stepping up border security is god forbid another terror attack on U.S. soil. Otherwise they will continue to turn a blind eye.

waltky
09-18-2018, 08:03 PM
Residents complain about smell after 157 unidentified bodies discovered in morgue trailer in Mexico... Residents complain about smell after 157 unidentified bodies discovered in morgue trailer in Mexico 18 Sept.`18 - Mexican investigating after residents complained of a foul smell coming from a refrigerated truck reportedly found 157 unidentified bodies in the back of the trailer near the city of Guadalajara.
Neighbors’ complaints about the truck caused authorities to change its location a few times. It went from a morgue parking lot to another government-run lot, before it finally wound up in a field behind a housing development. The bodies were stored in the truck due to overcrowding at morgues. State and local authorities have struggled as an unprecedented number of bodies pile up from Mexico's rising tide of violence. Officials recorded 16,339 homicides across Mexico in the first seven months of this year, an increase of 17 percent from the same period of 2017. Morgues in several of the country's states have run out of room. "This is a demonstration of insensitivity on the part of some public servants," said Roberto Lopez Lara, the Jalisco state interior secretary. He said the truck would be moved back to the morgue and an investigation would be carried out to see who made the decision.
http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/world/2018/09/18/residents-complain-about-smell-after-157-unidentified-bodies-discovered-in-morgue-trailer-in-mexico/_jcr_content/par/featured_image/media-0.img.jpg/931/524/1537293369469.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 Residents complained about the smell of a refrigerated truck that contained 157 bodies that was parked near the city of Guadalajara. While refrigeration can slow the decomposition of bodies, many of the corpses had been recovered from clandestine graves in the state and are already rotted, officials said. Javier Perlasca, an inspector for the state human rights commission, said that "this was a mistake...and it is bothering the neighbors" as well as causing pain for victims' families. "It is time to end these comings and goings that only outrage and hurt people," Perlasca said, adding the bodies should be given a decent burial. Reuters reported that authorities in Jalisco were working on making a new facility that would hold 700 bodies. The facility was expected to be completed within the next month and a half. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/09/18/residents-complain-about-smell-after-157-unidentified-bodies-discovered-in-morgue-trailer-in-mexico.html

Cannons Front
09-19-2018, 07:14 AM
Residents complain about smell after 157 unidentified bodies discovered in morgue trailer in Mexico... Residents complain about smell after 157 unidentified bodies discovered in morgue trailer in Mexico 18 Sept.`18 - Mexican investigating after residents complained of a foul smell coming from a refrigerated truck reportedly found 157 unidentified bodies in the back of the trailer near the city of Guadalajara.

Come on now lets not exaggerate...... according to Mexican officials there are no where near 157 bodies, only around 100........ Geesh always inflating.........LOL