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Chris
11-02-2017, 06:17 PM
OK, so I think he gets some details wrong, details he got from the left, but the main message right: The alt-right is an alternative to the right just as the left is. He focuses on areas of similarity, identity politics, atheism, and collectivism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHXL00wY3nY

Chris
11-03-2017, 07:44 AM
Another similarity: They shout each other down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3cZWPg1C0w

Safety
11-03-2017, 08:27 AM
The alt-right, or alternative right, is a loosely defined group of people with far-right ideologies who reject mainstream conservatism in favor of white nationalism. White supremacist[1] Richard Spencer initially promoted the term in 2010 in reference to a movement centered on white nationalism and did so according to the Associated Press to disguise overt racism, white supremacism, neo-fascism and neo-Nazism.[2][3][4] The term drew considerable media attention and controversy during and after the 2016 United States presidential election.[5]

Alt-right beliefs have been described as isolationist, protectionist, antisemitic and white supremacist,[6][7][8] frequently overlapping with Neo-Nazism,[9][10][11][12] nativism and Islamophobia,[13][14][15][16][17] antifeminism, misogyny and homophobia,[9][18][19][20][12] right-wing populism[21][22] and the neoreactionary movement.[6][23] The concept has further been associated with several groups from American nationalists, neo-monarchists, men's rights advocates and the 2016 presidential campaign of Donald Trump.[13][22][23][24][25]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right

Safety
11-03-2017, 08:30 AM
And just to clear any misunderstandings that may arise in some that think alt-left is a real phenomenon....


The difference between alt-right and alt-left is that one of them was coined by the people who comprise the movement and whose movement is clearly ascendant; the other was coined by its opponents and doesn’t actually have any subscribers.

https://www.snopes.com/2017/08/17/is-the-alt-left-a-real-thing/

Chris
11-03-2017, 08:30 AM
The alt-right, or alternative right, is a loosely defined group of people with far-right ideologies who reject mainstream conservatism in favor of white nationalism. White supremacist[1] Richard Spencer initially promoted the term in 2010 in reference to a movement centered on white nationalism and did so according to the Associated Press to disguise overt racism, white supremacism, neo-fascism and neo-Nazism.[2][3][4] The term drew considerable media attention and controversy during and after the 2016 United States presidential election.[5]

Alt-right beliefs have been described as isolationist, protectionist, antisemitic and white supremacist,[6][7][8] frequently overlapping with Neo-Nazism,[9][10][11][12] nativism and Islamophobia,[13][14][15][16][17] antifeminism, misogyny and homophobia,[9][18][19][20][12] right-wing populism[21][22] and the neoreactionary movement.[6][23] The concept has further been associated with several groups from American nationalists, neo-monarchists, men's rights advocates and the 2016 presidential campaign of Donald Trump.[13][22][23][24][25]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right



people with far-right ideologies who reject mainstream conservatism

Then they are, as the OP video explains, not the right, not conservative, but the left.


White supremacist[1] Richard Spencer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGhXo_a5NAM

Chris
11-03-2017, 08:31 AM
And just to clear any misunderstandings that may arise in some that think alt-left is a real phenonomon....



https://www.snopes.com/2017/08/17/is-the-alt-left-a-real-thing/


Who named then is hardly a distinction.

Safety
11-03-2017, 08:32 AM
Then they are, as the OP video explains, not the right, not conservative, but the left.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGhXo_a5NAM

Sure, in other words, a conservative that doesn't like another conservative's words, suddenly that person is not conservative....

CINO?

:rofl:

Chris
11-03-2017, 08:36 AM
Sure, in other words, a conservative that doesn't like another conservative's words, suddenly that person is not conservative....

CINO?

:rofl:


That's not logical, or factual. He said he was a socialist. He said he hates the right.


This thread is not about the name, alt-right, but about the similarities of those who are said to be alt-right and the left. Those similarities were stated in the OP as "identity politics, atheism, and collectivism." Spencer epitomizes those characteristics.

Safety
11-03-2017, 08:40 AM
That's not logical, or factual. He said he was a socialist. He said he hates the right.


This thread is not about the name, alt-right, but about the similarities of those who are said to be alt-right and the left. Those similarities were stated in the OP as "identity politics, atheism, and collectivism." Spencer epitomizes those characteristics.

And there are people who say they are a lizard, it doesn't make it true.

Chris
11-03-2017, 01:56 PM
Here's an example of just how similar the two are in the tactics of identity politcs: How Internet Trolls Just Beat The Mainstream Media (https://bilanreport.com/2017/11/02/how-internet-trolls-just-beat-the-mainstream-media/)--and not just the media but SJWs.


Recently, 4Chan users began a national campaign to “nuke the reputability of far left campuses and media”. To do so, an anonymous user on the forum based site recruited other users to hang posters and flyers stating “it’s okay to be white” around local high school and college campuses.

On Halloween night, signs saying “it’s okay to be white” in aesthetically pleasing fonts began appearing across the United States and Canada at universities such as Tulane, Harvard, and Alberta.

Essentially, it worked. Overnight massive controversy arose over the signs, with some calling them “microregressions” and others going so far as to adress them as “hate crimes”.

Moreover, the campaign caught the attention of the Washington Post, Boston Globe, and an array of local news sites and have sparked “police inquiry” over the signs. This is precisely what they wanted and reporting by reputable news groups and attention given to it by academia sheds light on the power of perception which 4Chan exerts.

...

Here's a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhUvf1tKzp4

Another:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E0ZCFFBGPU

Mister D
11-03-2017, 08:56 PM
What is the alt-right? Ask someone who identifies with such or, better still, read the work of the intellectuals associate with the movement.