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Agent Zero
12-12-2017, 10:13 AM
As I predicted...

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/dec/12/2017-lie-year-russian-election-interference-made-s/

2017 Lie of the Year: Russian election interference is a 'made-up story'By Angie Drobnic Holan (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/staff/angie-drobnic-holan/) on Tuesday, December 12th, 2017 at 6:30 a.m.
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Tampa Bay Times illustration by Ron BorresenA mountain of evidence points to a single fact: Russia meddled in the U.S. presidential election of 2016.
In both classified and public reports (https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf), U.S. intelligence agencies have said Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered actions to interfere with the election. Those actions included the cyber-theft of private data, the placement of propaganda against particular candidates, and an overall effort to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process.

Agent Zero
12-12-2017, 10:14 AM
Share The Facts

Donald Trump
President


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This Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story.
an interview – Thursday, May 11, 2017

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Agent Zero
12-12-2017, 10:16 AM
Note: The vote was the reader's choice

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/dec/12/2017-lie-year-readers-poll-results/


President Donald Trump calling "the Russia thing" a "made-up story (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/may/12/donald-trump/trump-calls-trump-russia-story-made-/)" has overwhelmingly won the reader competition for most significant falsehood of 2017. It is the same falsehood selected by PolitiFact for Lie of the Year.
The first runner-up was a claim about health care from Rep. Raul Labrador, R-Idaho, who said, "Nobody dies (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/may/08/raul-labrador/raul-labradors-claim-no-one-dies-lack-health-care-/) because they don’t have access to health care." Third place went to a statement from Sean Spicer, who as Trump’s press secretary claimed that Trump had "the largest audience (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/jan/21/sean-spicer/trump-had-biggest-inaugural-crowd-ever-metrics-don/) to witness an inauguration, period."

Agent Zero
12-12-2017, 10:19 AM
Trump continually asserts that Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election is fake news, a hoax or a made-up story, even though there is widespread, bipartisan evidence to the contrary.When the nation’s commander-in-chief refuses to acknowledge a threat to U.S. democracy, it makes it all the more difficult to address the problem. For this reason, we name Trump’s claim that the Russia interference is a hoax as our Lie of the Year for 2017.
Readers of PolitiFact also chose the claim as the year's most significant falsehood by an overwhelming margin.

hanger4
12-12-2017, 10:26 AM
From collusion to meddling, how quaint. When does the full force of the media come down on the US for meddling in foreign elections ??

Agent Zero
12-12-2017, 10:38 AM
From collusion to meddling, how quaint. When does the full force of the media come down on the US for meddling in foreign elections ??
They don't. They appropriately defer to the investigators.



Investigations should go forward until all the facts come out about Russia’s role in the election, said Benjamin Wittes, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and editor in chief of Lawfare, a national security blog.
"It’s possible that the president obstructed justice. It’s also possible the president behaved wildly inappropriately without obstructing justice," Wittes said. "And it’s important to find out exactly what happened."

hanger4
12-12-2017, 11:16 AM
They don't. They appropriately defer to the investigators.Except when they don't and post unsubstantiated allegations, rumors and innuendo. Do you ever hear what you say ??

The Xl
12-12-2017, 11:25 AM
Lol at politifact. It's like, well, it has fact in the title, so anything they said must be true!

Its just another politically motivated outlet with yet another politically motivated "opinion"

resister
12-12-2017, 11:42 AM
Lol at politifact. It's like, well, it has fact in the title, so anything they said must be true!

Its just another politically motivated outlet with yet another politically motivated "opinion" The twin of snopes.

Agent Zero
12-12-2017, 01:28 PM
Lol at politifact. It's like, well, it has fact in the title, so anything they said must be true!

Its just another politically motivated outlet with yet another politically motivated "opinion"
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/dec/12/lie-year-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keep-it/

Kalkin
12-12-2017, 01:42 PM
I nominate this for lie of the year:


I believe I predicted his presidency would be over around Aug 8th. Given my accuracy record so far, that may be another accurate guess.

Well, maybe not a lie, but certainly a bone-headedly wrong prediction.

Adelaide
12-12-2017, 02:54 PM
I nominate this for lie of the year:



Well, maybe not a lie, but certainly a bone-headedly wrong prediction.

Thread banned by OP.

Peter1469
12-12-2017, 06:15 PM
Moscow has interfered in US elections and in many other national elections since 1919.

The US has interfered in the Soviet / Russian election since the Cold War until today. And with the elections of other nations. We caused revolutions in Ukraine for one. We assassinated many political leaders in South America. Obama funded an effort to depose Bibi in Israel.

All nations are having their elections manipulated by outside powers.

Agent Zero
12-12-2017, 06:51 PM
Moscow has interfered in US elections and in many other national elections since 1919.

The US has interfered in the Soviet / Russian election since the Cold War until today. And with the elections of other nations. We caused revolutions in Ukraine for one. We assassinated many political leaders in South America. Obama funded an effort to depose Bibi in Israel.

All nations are having their elections manipulated by outside powers.

I take it you didn't read the write-up? Welcome to the 21st Century.


Countries have meddled in each other’s internal politics before. But 2016 was different.New cyber tools had come online, with Facebook putting robust sharing options in the hands of its users. In previous presidential cycles, online organizing had been innovative or unusual. In 2016, the sharing of political information online was widespread, cheap and easy to execute.

resister
12-12-2017, 07:06 PM
I take it you didn't read the write-up? Welcome to the 21st Century.

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