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Mister D
12-05-2012, 03:15 PM
Frederick won a major victory over the Austrians at Leuthen using his oblique order of battle.

http://www.britishbattles.com/frederick/battle-leuthen.htm

The storming of the churchyard was captured in several great paintings. Mind you, I'm no art critic but I know what I like!

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KC
12-05-2012, 03:18 PM
Wow, I'm gonna have to bookmark that website when I get home.

Mister D
12-05-2012, 03:24 PM
Wow, I'm gonna have to bookmark that website when I get home.

It's pretty cool, huh? :cool2:

KC
12-05-2012, 03:31 PM
It's pretty cool, huh? :cool2:

Yeah, and I got a buddy in a British history class who could really use that for study.

Mister D
12-05-2012, 03:36 PM
But why a site called Britisg Battles has an article on a battle not involving the British...

KC
12-05-2012, 03:37 PM
But why a site called Britisg Battles has an article on a battle not involving the British...

Yeah that's odd. It's really cool how they break down the battles though. Good overview.

Peter1469
12-05-2012, 03:45 PM
But why a site called Britisg Battles has an article on a battle not involving the British...

One learns military history and tactics / strategy by studying the masters.

Mister D
12-05-2012, 03:48 PM
One learns military history and tactics / strategy by studying the masters.

Then call it Battles not British Battles! :grin:

Frederick did bite off a bit more than he could chew. Not even his genius to give Prussia ultimate victory.

Peter1469
12-05-2012, 03:53 PM
Then call it Battles not British Battles! :grin:

Frederick did bite off a bit more than he could chew. Not even his genius to give Prussia ultimate victory.

He was outnumbered.

Mister D
12-05-2012, 03:54 PM
He was outnumbered.

Badly but that was kind of his fault from what I remember.

Peter1469
12-05-2012, 03:58 PM
I wonder if all the other nations didn't join against him precisely because he was such an effective field general?

Mister D
12-05-2012, 03:59 PM
Fast forward to the Napoleonic era. I don't know what it is about Prussians storming church yards...cool painting.

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Mister D
12-05-2012, 04:01 PM
I wonder if all the other nations didn't join against him precisely because he was such and effective field general?

I don't recall exactly. That's a period I don't think I've ever really familiarized myself with.It was Prussia versus Austria and Russia at one point. Not sure who else was involved. It was the 7 Years War, I believe. The same war as the French and Indian War. Not sure whose side France was on.

Mister D
12-05-2012, 04:04 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Years'_War

Prussia's main ally was England.

Mister D
12-05-2012, 04:48 PM
This magnificent piece was written to commemorate another victory of Frederick at Hohenfriedberg in 1745.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkhOxFtj7Eo

Peter1469
12-05-2012, 05:21 PM
Moving forward in military history, I did have the pleasure of visiting Lord Admiral Nelson's and Field Marshal Aurthur Wellesely, the First Duke of Wellington's tombs at Saint Paul's Cathedral in London not long ago. They were two great British commanders!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NelsonTomb.jpg

Mister D
12-05-2012, 06:35 PM
Moving forward in military history, I did have the pleasure of visiting Lord Admiral Nelson's and Field Marshal Aurthur Wellesely, the First Duke of Wellington's tombs at Saint Paul's Cathedral in London not long ago. They were two great British commanders!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NelsonTomb.jpg

Nice.

Yes, they were but think Wellington was saved at Waterloo by the Prussians. The British perspective on Waterloo is highly distorted, IMO.

Peter1469
12-05-2012, 06:49 PM
Wellington caused Napoleon to commit giving the Prussians more freedom of movement. A nice position to have.

Mister D
12-05-2012, 06:53 PM
Wellington caused Napoleon to commit giving the Prussians more freedom of movement. A nice position to have.

No doubt! Had the Prussians not showed up that afternoon I think the Anglo-Allied army would have been scattered. That said, a victory for the French would have been ultimately meaningless. What then? France just didn't have the resources to win against yet another coalition.