Power always thinks it has a great soul, and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak. And that it is doing God service when it is violating all His laws.
--John Adams
MisterVeritis (05-15-2022)
The more usual argument is you (generic) believe in God, I (generic) believe in science as found in this (big bang) or that (evolution) theory. I have evidence on my side, you have no evidence, therefore you're full of stuff and nonsense, you are ignorant, you are stupid, you are dumb, you are foolish and unlearned, you make me laugh. and so on. That is the theme of this thread. But it's a double strawman that both misrepresents religion and misrepresents science.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
Scientist is defined by someone that studies science. Nothing more. There is no implied correctness associated with that person or group. People rarely hire a scientist. They hire engineers, physicists, chemists, biologists...because just scientist would infer being an expert in everything.
So there are 7 major creation theories out there and at least 6 are wrong plus the religious theories. But none of those theories have to be correct.
Widely accepted theories have been tossed in the trash pile throughout history including many times on the origins of the universe.
Speculative physics cannot be used in the same sentence as truth, fact or any word that provides certainty or authority.
So when someone says that others do not know what science means then I see that as someone trying to project false authority.
Last edited by carolina73; 05-15-2022 at 07:10 PM.
Let's go Brandon !!!
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Peter1469 (05-16-2022)
Originally Posted by OLD GUY IN FLORIDA
I already gave you an answer. I believe God created the mechanism by which change and or creation occurs.
I believe in both God and science. Far too many people think its an either/or scenario. If you believe in God you can't believe in science and vice versa. I totally reject that notion. I also believe we do not have all the answers and some of the answers we do have are actually incorrect.
Using the Standard Model (relativity) alone, sure. Once we truly understand quantum physics and how it works with the Standard Model..., we may see more.
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Devotion to the truth is the hallmark of morality; there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking.”
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Devotion to the truth is the hallmark of morality; there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking.”
― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
Peter1469 (05-16-2022)