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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    For just some of it, I'll refer you back to post #23 because it took me a good while to write. I've spent a lot of time talking about Trump on this thread tonight and it's past 1 AM here and I'm ready to be done with doing so for one night and get some sleep.

    Whatever happened to you, wasn't Trump's fault and, whatever old wounds were opened by Whatever it was Trump said or did at any time in his life, is also not his fault.

    Trump can't be held responsible for your fragile state of mind.

    So, what you are claiming Trump did to you, happened years before he even took office?

    It sure sounds to me, you can use some good counseling.

    I mean no disrespect, it's sometimes beneficial to just talk and, have someone listen.

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    Do you want a Christians point of view. Because these are not

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadmaster View Post
    Do you want a Christians point of view. Because these are not

    Who claimed they were Christian points of view?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    On a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being totally without unfair bias, prejudice, discrimination, or hate of any kind, and 10 being like a supporter of genocide, how bigoted am I in your view? Just like in general, based on anything/everything (e.g. concerning people's race, sex, class, age, mental health, disability, gender non-conformity, worldview, whatever). How would you rate my overall level of bigotry as a person?

    I'm doing this type of poll on a few different forums to see how different sorts of people perceive me. Just curious!

    I gave you a five (5). You seem pretty middle of the road. (Normal)
    Everyone alive has some bigotry in them, even if they do not acknowledge it.
    ..but I prefer to call it BIAS.

    BIAS is what you have personally seen with your own eyes and experienced in your own life.

    When I was dating, several women were BIASED against men who drank heavily. It was because they had seen it all before, and did not wish to repeat those experiences.

    BIAS is also an electronic term, and refers to how a device operates. All pretty much the same.

    We all operate under a certain bias.

    So, @IMPress Polly I would say you are a centrist and pretty normal.

    This means everyone will misunderstand what you say on the internet because you are not a radical one way or another.

    ...but I get you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Well interesting so far! Over on a more left-leaning forum, I'm averaging a 6 so far in an analogous poll.

    Personally, I perceive myself as more like a 3 on the aforementioned scale. I mean I'm not perfect. I definitely judge Muslims on sight (to myself) and possess what I consider a rational fear of them. And while I try to keep it in check, in my darker moments I do sometimes have a bit of a thing about wishing I could somehow live totally separately from men. So there are some things like that that I struggle with. But ya know, much as I criticize gender identity and critical race theory and such like this sometimes, I don't wish harm on trans-identified people at all (or even perceive them as the principal trans activists for that matter; certainly not the ones that scare me anyway) and generally fall to the left of Biden when it comes to issues of racial justice and the policies I support. I'm also currently dating a really cool Latina, and it's made me more conscious of like when people casually mock the Spanish language and the way that it seems like the vast majority of news stories we see about Hispanic people revolve around illegal border crossings and stuff and not very much good stuff. She's not an aggressive person about that stuff at all, but I feel offended for her sometimes, ya know? I notice it more now. Guess I'd just summarize by saying that I know I've got my faults, but I'm not sure I'm that bad. I certainly don't mean to be if I am.

    I perceive the average tPF contributor as like a 5 to a 7 on the aforementioned scale, somewhere in there, although I think FinderKeepers' self-score seems relatively accurate. I mean I think you peeps are well-meaning...but I also think most of you really do have some very real, deep-seeded issues with black people (like what was with half the forum adopting the Confederate battle flag as their avis back when, for instance?) and have an issue with me liking women that you're mostly just too polite to voice anymore. Stuff like that. Just my perception of it. Could be totally wrong!
    I gave you a 4 because of your bigotry of free markets and liberty.

    I am probably pretty high on the scale because of my bigotry of all statists and idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    You felt "traumatized and abused" by the fact that Trump was President?

    Why?
    A lot of people did. That is why Psychology Today wrote an article about TDS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Calm yourself, padawan. My own counsel will I keep on who is to be trained! A Jedi must have the deepest commitment; the most serious mind.

    Don't flatter yourself. I still think you're basically a bunch of delusional xenophobes; most of you anyway. But I do feel that surviving the Trump era has made me a stronger person with more perspective on life in a sense. I've weathered a lot of abusive, narcissistic relationships in my life, and surviving the Trump era was a matter of learning to approach politics the same way I've learned to approach those sorts of relationships in general. The main thing is to not take mistreatment personally because there's nothing you can do to change that person's behavior for the better. The second thing is to know when it's time to step away because one can only take so much before they simply need some space to recharge.

    Learning not to take politics less personally and to take lots of time away from it has been an immense help and has brought me a lot more peace and calm! These coping strategies have been enough to make things livable for me here. It hasn't been enough to make things livable for me on progressive forums, by contrast, so I don't hang around those anymore. I don't think progressives have generally recovered from the trauma of the Trump presidency. The thing about trauma and abuse is that these things often reproduce themselves in their survivors. Rape makes more rapists. Hate begets more hate. Racism makes racists of people. People become their abusers. That's their final victory over you; the people who abuse you absorb your soul and remake you in their own image. I feel that that's what's happening on the left at this time. We all just survived a very traumatizing, abusive event that went on for years, and the survivors are becoming much like their oppressors in response. They're behaving like trauma survivors. They're becoming more narcissistic and intolerant and controlling and really can't be satisfied. Too much so for me right now. Emotions are running high and the left hasn't moved on from the last four years so quickly as I've managed to, I suspect in part because I'm pretty used to these kinds of relationships and know how to survive them with half my sanity intact from a lifetime of experience and most people really don't.

    The bottom line is that politics are devolving into a form of abuse. That needs to stop. We all need to take $#@! less seriously and learn to look for the good things in other people.
    @IMPress Polly...ya know I luvz ya...but let me say this one thing about the above post.

    No one "survives" a presidential term. They see them come and they see them go. Once every four to eight years. That is all there is to it.

    I was born in in 1955. Not once did any ass-warmer of the White House throne affect my life in any way.

    I have lived under both Democrats and Republican presidents, and there was no "surviving".

    There WAS surviving Hurricane Carla in 1963.
    There WAS surviving the tanker wars of the 80's.
    There WAS surviving the Lebanon incursion in the 80's.
    There WAS surviving the Balkans breakup and trying to stop ethnic cleansing.
    There WAS surviving roaming bands of militias in the Balkans and Romania and hunting them down.
    There WAS surviving the VA cutting me off cold turkey from 90mg of morphine a day to ZERO.

    All of the above could have killed me, but i survived.

    Living through a presidential era is not surviving. You can hate them, and once they are out of office you can pop the cork and celebrate, but this is NOT surviving. There was ZERO threat to your life, and any other perceived threats were made up by the media or in your own mind....but this is NOT the reality of the situation.

    No doubt many conservative will also say they "survived" the Biden era in a few years. I will tell them the very same thing.

    ***********************************

    OFF TOPIC NOTE: My phone just dinged right now at 0503 in the morning saying my required stimulus check of $1,689.92 may be sent to me. It came from phone number (917) 224-2210. This is between 1000 and 1300 in Africa, Europe, and Russia. They must think us Americans are dumber than dirt to try this obvious scam.

    Hopefully, in a few decades or so, we can all say we survived the Great ROBOCALL Scams of the 21st century. But it is the phone companies who are generating them, so I doubt they will stop even decades from now.

    I think I could be a zillionaire if i brought back analog phone service.

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    SATIRICAL EDIT:
    You COULD SAY I survived....

    No air conditioning in my home or school
    Only black & white TV
    Only three TV stations
    AM radio only
    Mowing lawns, edging, and sweeping up for only $4 per job
    Having to sit through Lawrence Welk's TV show.
    Asbestos all in the school and the house
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    You really need an explanation? Really? Like you never saw the Twitter account or listened to even one speech?

    It would take days just to list all the $#@! I could here, so let's keep things simple by just starting out with one aspect, which is that Trump was not a sexist, he was a cartoon. The guy literally owned beauty pageants and strip clubs and was recorded plainly admitting to an entire, highly believable lifestyle of voyeurism and sexual assault that literally hundreds of women stepped forward to confirm their experience with, and somehow got (technically) elected anyway despite having exactly zero qualifications for the job he was seeking. And the man's family fortune came from a brothel his grandfather owned in New York. President. Best candidate for the job. And was one seriously expected to miss the fact that this was the man chosen to run against the one who'd have been the first female president or just write that up to coincidence as if it weren't an intentional choice meant to signal the extremity of conservatives' collective hostility to the whole idea of there ever being a woman president? The Democrats nominate a woman for the first time and the Republicans respond not just with a man, but specifically with a $#@!ing cartoon misogynist you couldn't make up 'by coincidence'. Not a coincidence. Under no other circumstances could such a man as that been elected president.

    Guy gets (technically) elected and acts very much like he possesses the corresponding attitude indeed, picking a bunch of wife beaters to staff his cabinet and supporting every pedophile and sexual predator he comes across with an R by their name (e.g. Roy Moore, personally nominated Brett Kavanaugh, etc.) and becomes the first sitting president to personally attend the annual march for forced motherhood. And also does not renew the Violence Against Women Act. Even pays off porn stars so they won't disclose their affairs with him that were had while he was married to his brainless fashion model trophy wife decades his junior.

    I know a few things about working in strip clubs and brothels and I know what the attitudes of the owners are. Yes, that this man managed to win somehow, but even more so under the aforementioned circumstances, reopened old wounds. It was painful beyond belief. People here will recall that I left the VIPs here on tPF and had to quit posting for months in response. That's how painful it was and how intensely it felt like everyone, my whole country, hated me for being me and also pretty much everything I ever stood for for that matter. If it hadn't been for the Women's March the following January, I honestly don't know what I'd have done. It was really, really intense depression. And I mean Trump's not exactly the consoling type either, ya know? He's the type who likes to pour salt on wounds because that's how he gets his rocks off, so that's what he did at every turn. That the 2017 Women's March turned out to be the biggest single-day demonstration in American history and polled with the support of some 60% of the women of this country was absolutely the factor that stabilized me emotionally. Just like I needed that basic reassurance that this wasn't most people, that my country didn't hate me, that women didn't hate women that much. I just needed the catharsis and validation of it to know that I wasn't crazy after all for feeling the way I did or alone in my pain; that lots of other women, most in fact, felt similarly. From there my prevailing emotion went from extreme depression to anger, and that was a better state to be in. Right now, at this point, I would say that I'm in a place of calm and better understanding. I wasn't ready to be understanding of the 2016 election for a while. I just needed space to be allowed to be in pain and to vent and protest. For a good while, I would even just turn off any report that criticized Democrats, close out any window that included such criticisms, and avoid any and all left wing infighting like it was the coronavirus not because I liked Democrats (I didn't even vote for Hillary Clinton!), but because it was like contextually a validation of this monster in my eyes. That's called trauma and it was real and I was far, far, FAAAAR from alone in experiencing it.

    And here I have just barely scratched the surface of the kind of abuse and trauma that our former president (I just love saying that phrase: former president) visited upon much of this nation. I haven't touched on any policies and promises besides those dealing specifically with women here even! Just the beginning.

    Different people respond to trauma differently. Some don't have the tools necessary to cope. Some take more time to heal than others. Most people in fact never truly heal, but only improve.
    Are you kids really that weak in stamina where tweets and speeches actually traumatize you ?

    As you already said YES, then you are in for a very, very rough life indeed.

    ...but living life will toughen you up and you can reach down into your inner strength in times of need and survive. That instinct is always there when we need it.

    Believe me, darlin'...you will experience much, much worse things that will traumatize you than tweets and speeches as you live your life.

    Tweets and speeches are nothing.

    When a REAL threatening situation occurs, just know your ancestors are hovering over you to lend a hand in any way they can. So are your guardian angels.

    Know too, in that time, you may have to toss aside your humanity and become mad dog mean to get to the other side alive. You do what you gotta do, girl. The onus is on them for making you have to go there. You won't be proud of it, but you will be alive to continue to do good in this very beautiful world. Just put it behind you where it belongs and step out into the sunlight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    You really need an explanation? Really? Like you never saw the Twitter account or listened to even one speech?

    It would take days just to list all the $#@! I could here, so let's keep things simple by just starting out with one aspect, which is that Trump was not a sexist, he was a cartoon. The guy literally owned beauty pageants and strip clubs and was recorded plainly admitting to an entire, highly believable lifestyle of voyeurism and sexual assault that literally hundreds of women stepped forward to confirm their experience with, and somehow got (technically) elected anyway despite having exactly zero qualifications for the job he was seeking. And the man's family fortune came from a brothel his grandfather owned in New York. President. Best candidate for the job. And was one seriously expected to miss the fact that this was the man chosen to run against the one who'd have been the first female president or just write that up to coincidence as if it weren't an intentional choice meant to signal the extremity of conservatives' collective hostility to the whole idea of there ever being a woman president? The Democrats nominate a woman for the first time and the Republicans respond not just with a man, but specifically with a $#@!ing cartoon misogynist you couldn't make up 'by coincidence'. Not a coincidence. Under no other circumstances could such a man as that been elected president.

    Guy gets (technically) elected and acts very much like he possesses the corresponding attitude indeed, picking a bunch of wife beaters to staff his cabinet and supporting every pedophile and sexual predator he comes across with an R by their name (e.g. Roy Moore, personally nominated Brett Kavanaugh, etc.) and becomes the first sitting president to personally attend the annual march for forced motherhood. And also does not renew the Violence Against Women Act. Even pays off porn stars so they won't disclose their affairs with him that were had while he was married to his brainless fashion model trophy wife decades his junior.

    I know a few things about working in strip clubs and brothels and I know what the attitudes of the owners are. Yes, that this man managed to win somehow, but even more so under the aforementioned circumstances, reopened old wounds. It was painful beyond belief. People here will recall that I left the VIPs here on tPF and had to quit posting for months in response. That's how painful it was and how intensely it felt like everyone, my whole country, hated me for being me and also pretty much everything I ever stood for for that matter. If it hadn't been for the Women's March the following January, I honestly don't know what I'd have done. It was really, really intense depression. And I mean Trump's not exactly the consoling type either, ya know? He's the type who likes to pour salt on wounds because that's how he gets his rocks off, so that's what he did at every turn. That the 2017 Women's March turned out to be the biggest single-day demonstration in American history and polled with the support of some 60% of the women of this country was absolutely the factor that stabilized me emotionally. Just like I needed that basic reassurance that this wasn't most people, that my country didn't hate me, that women didn't hate women that much. I just needed the catharsis and validation of it to know that I wasn't crazy after all for feeling the way I did or alone in my pain; that lots of other women, most in fact, felt similarly. From there my prevailing emotion went from extreme depression to anger, and that was a better state to be in. Right now, at this point, I would say that I'm in a place of calm and better understanding. I wasn't ready to be understanding of the 2016 election for a while. I just needed space to be allowed to be in pain and to vent and protest. For a good while, I would even just turn off any report that criticized Democrats, close out any window that included such criticisms, and avoid any and all left wing infighting like it was the coronavirus not because I liked Democrats (I didn't even vote for Hillary Clinton!), but because it was like contextually a validation of this monster in my eyes. That's called trauma and it was real and I was far, far, FAAAAR from alone in experiencing it.

    And here I have just barely scratched the surface of the kind of abuse and trauma that our former president (I just love saying that phrase: former president) visited upon much of this nation. I haven't touched on any policies and promises besides those dealing specifically with women here even! Just the beginning.

    Different people respond to trauma differently. Some don't have the tools necessary to cope. Some take more time to heal than others. Most people in fact never truly heal, but only improve.

    never truly heal.....from a politicians speech ... or a tweet. Truly traumatized from both.

    I would have never believed it, if i had not read it with my own eyes.

    You need to step out and away from all your screens if they are affecting you this way.

    ...but you DID say that in your very first post, so yeah.

    The internet is not a very nice place to spend much time. Mostly haters occupy it now.

    Glad you saw the problem and the solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    Or that some people were routinely othered and attacked by the last president while others (like yourself) were not and so did not suffer from it.

    Narcissists tend to divide their subjects into proverbial golden children who can do no wrong because they bring him praise and scapegoats who are blamed and punished for everything because they don't bring him praise. You peeps here were the golden kids of the Trump presidency. Of course you weren't offended or hurt by it.

    You can ask anyone here. I was NEVER a Trump supporter, but I voted for him twice.

    Only because, I felt, Hillary and Biden were worse.

    The worst thing about the 2016 election was that one of them was going to win.

    How sad was that ?

    **********************

    Still, I was not too overly concerned...and NEVER traumatized because i know nothing they do will ever affect me personally.

    That is the joy of have a new regime every four to eight years. No one is in long enough to really screw everything up beyond repair.

    ********************

    ...but...to be fair...I live in Texas, and we DO have a certain insulating quality from Washington inherent in us and our government.

    This is why we insisted on our own power grid.
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