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    Quote Originally Posted by jgarden477 View Post
    • BLM, Dem Socialists, & Squad Side with Cuban Commies


    1) It was former President Donald J Trump, not his Democratic counterpart, that was recorded on tape attempted to subvert the democratic electoral process in Georgia by demanding that its Republican Secretary of State engage in "creative bookkeeping" by introducing an additional 11,870 ballots to change the outcome of the 2020 Election!

    2) State legislatures with Republican majorities are currently engaged in "suppressing" the American electorate - democracies should be encouraging citizen participation in the electoral process, not discouraging them!

    3) Leaders dedicated to preserving democracy don't encourage their supporters to storm their legislative assemblies to disrupt their constitutional mandated duties of certifying the election results!
    (1) I will not defend former President Trump on this one. (He is often assaulted--rhetorically--for no good reason; but in this case, he deserves the assault.)

    (2) Voter "suppress[ion]" should not be confused with the attempt to ensure voter integrity. (Is it possible that Republicans championing these laws have impure motives? Of course that is possible. But if the ends that they are pursuing are good, that is really all we need to know.)

    (3) It is really unclear to me if Donald Trump "encourage[d]" his supporters to "storm" the Capitol--especially since he encouraged them to just go home.

    But let us assume, for sake of discussion, that he did.

    Neither this, nor any of the other objections, has anything to do with Cuba.

    It is merely a deflection.
    Last edited by pjohns; 07-19-2021 at 12:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastern Queen View Post
    One of the people who founded BLM is a Marxist...
    The three, of course, are Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi.

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    ...but the vast majority of BLM protesters don't even know what Marxism is. They just protest racism and police brutality.
    Although I seriously doubt that very many Black Lives Matter supporters have read Das Kapital (or have even a rudimentary knowledge of the workings of Marxism), they likely reside on the left side of the political spectrum.

    And they have certainly won the rhetorical battle here: To say that one disavows Black Lives Matter sounds almost like an assertion that one believes that black lives do not matter. (This, of course, is a confusion with the general philosophical principle and the left-wing organization.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    (1) I will not defend former President Trump on this one. (He is often assaulted--rhetorically--for no good reason; but in this case, he deserves the assault.)

    You should because it is untrue and he has already been cleared
    The audio was edited and WAPO apologized for the editing on the recording they released. That is why the story died.

    https://www.independentsentinel.com/...ind-the-votes/

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    You should because it is untrue and he has already been cleared
    The audio was edited and WAPO apologized for the editing on the recording they released. That is why the story died.

    https://www.independentsentinel.com/...ind-the-votes/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    They aren't actually supporting the Cuban government. They are giving them a pass and blaming the US. The blame America first crowd is growing.
    That is a distinction without a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastern Queen View Post
    One of the people who founded BLM is a Marxist, but the vast majority of BLM protesters don't even know what Marxism is. They just protest racism and police brutality.
    And no, they don't side with the "Marxist" government in Cuba.
    They may have never read Marx but they are not out on the streets of America defending personal liberties I can tell you. In that sense they know very well the kind of authoritarian WOKE society they are after. So don't play up their being naive actors because that does not exist!

    BLM promotes Racism period and that is the politics of collectivists and Marxist dictators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    They may have never read Marx but they are not out on the streets of America defending personal liberties I can tell you. In that sense they know very well the kind of authoritarian WOKE society they are after. So don't play up their being naive actors because that does not exist!
    BLM promotes Racism period and that is the politics of collectivists and Marxist dictators.
    I see. So you don't actually know what Marxism is. You just repeat talking-points and say WOKE a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    Although I seriously doubt that very many Black Lives Matter supporters have read Das Kapital (or have even a rudimentary knowledge of the workings of Marxism), they likely reside on the left side of the political spectrum.
    And they have certainly won the rhetorical battle here: To say that one disavows Black Lives Matter sounds almost like an assertion that one believes that black lives do not matter. (This, of course, is a confusion with the general philosophical principle and the left-wing organization.)
    So really, nothing to do with Marxism as a political philosophy or movement. This is just more of the Right using boogeyman words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    It's true, but why is that one of your wishes?
    Because the principles of Socialism are more moral and pragmatic than those of Capitalism.
    I'm not actually a Marxist, but Marxism would be much better than Capitalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    You have some numbers?
    How many BLM protesters have you heard or read talk about collectivization of the means of production, direct democracy, or the decommodification of essential services?

    The media just calls them "Marxist" because they know Conservatives are stupid and think "Marxism" is a scary word. You might as well call them Nazis, it essentially means the same thing to the conservatard cucks.

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