News Flash, Gun Nuts: There is No "Right to Rebel"

[zelmo1234]

Gun ownership rights has been a contentious issue for along time and the reason imho is that both sides are overbearing and ridiculous about what they want.

Liberals: Want gun ownership abolished and gun purchase illegal. Sorry Liberals never happen there are MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of guns out there and if you ban them you wont be able to confiscate the millions of the, it will just revive the old import illegal firearms trade.
There was a time there was gun rooms in all major cities secret rooms where you could buy anything you wanted.

Far Right:The are totally absurd in their claims that background checks somehow infringe on gun ownership a background check does not stop a SINGLE american with a clean record and who is not insane from owning a gun.
They are ridiculous in their position about background checks and it makes the entire gun buying owning debate much worse. If they allowed background checks it would take much of the argument out of the equasion.

No one is going to stop gun ownership in america, you might as well forget it and move on to your next want.

They were for background checks you could ahve that tomorrow, but that is not what the bill was about?

So you are mistaken in the rights opposition to background checks. The bill was poisoned by Dems!

[zelmo1234]

it never had any purpose in america.

there is a reason the constitution defines what treason is and allows for martial law in certain circumstances.

the NRA used to be sane. now it isn't... I would say that if the 75% of its membership that IS sane stopped giving them money, the NRA would get sane again, too. But the reality is that most of the money the NRA gets comes from gun manufacturers

Actually it is about 60% and the money comes to the NRA in the form of advertising in their 3 magizines! WOW imagine that gun companies advertizing in hunting shooting and home protections magizines? Who would have thought!

[Common]

The state of Florida is enjoying the lowest crime rate in 42 yrs, since they passed the stand your ground law and have the most concealed weapon permits in the country. Gun shows are everywhere, I bought a gun saturday at a gun show.

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/05/16...t-in-42-years/

Overall crime dropped 6.5% from 2011 to 2012. Two categories of crime went up, homicides went up 2% which does not mean murder with guns and Forced sex crimes went up, florida because its a warm state attracts legions of pedophilles.

[Mr Happy]

The state of Florida is enjoying the lowest crime rate in 42 yrs, since they passed the stand your ground law and have the most concealed weapon permits in the country. Gun shows are everywhere, I bought a gun saturday at a gun show.

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/05/16...t-in-42-years/

Overall crime dropped 6.5% from 2011 to 2012. Two categories of crime went up, homicides went up 2% which does not mean murder with guns and Forced sex crimes went up, florida because its a warm state attracts legions of pedophilles.

You really should read your own links before spouting $#@! (the bold part). From YOUR link:

"Baily attributes the continued drop to improvements in technology and information sharing that has seen a sharp rise in the number of DNA and fingerprint matches, saying solving more crimes means there are fewer criminals on the loose."

[zelmo1234]

YES but are you saying that your country is not up on technology, because after you ban most guns, you had a huge spike in crime and your rates are just starting to return to where they were before the Gun ban!

While we in this country at the sime time ended our assualt weapons ban, and many states became shall issue conceal carry states and the numbers skyrocketed!

Here is a little crime statistic that you won't read about in the paper! I live in A rural area, one of our law abiding citizens was in a samll gas station in the middle of no where. 3 people come into the store and quickly go to 3 areas of the store, he came out of the restroom at the same time that they entered! they are milling around waiting for him to leave.

Being trained to pick up on thngs like this. He walks over to the counter and starts talking to the gal about how she should start carrying a gun like he has and reveals his concealed pistol, (which is illegal)! He positions himself to confront the 3 if what he suspects starts to go down, and the one says come on guys lets go!

Tehy call the police, and tell the tale. they actually were smart enoung to get a discription of the car and the license number! The police scold the permit holder but tell him that they are not going to prosicute because he just saved the girls life! Three hours later a state poice officer spots the same car in another party store parkinglot, and calls for back up! he pulls in to pretend to get gas while he waits for them to arrive.

they arrest the three, who have comitted dozens of robberies and in many cases killied the clerk in the stores!

but you won't here about it on the news! By the By, do you thing that these find individuals would ahve given up their guns if they passed laws making them illegal?

[Mr Happy]

YES but are you saying that your country is not up on technology, because after you ban most guns, you had a huge spike in crime and your rates are just starting to return to where they were before the Gun ban!

While we in this country at the sime time ended our assualt weapons ban, and many states became shall issue conceal carry states and the numbers skyrocketed!

Here is a little crime statistic that you won't read about in the paper! I live in A rural area, one of our law abiding citizens was in a samll gas station in the middle of no where. 3 people come into the store and quickly go to 3 areas of the store, he came out of the restroom at the same time that they entered! they are milling around waiting for him to leave.

Being trained to pick up on thngs like this. He walks over to the counter and starts talking to the gal about how she should start carrying a gun like he has and reveals his concealed pistol, (which is illegal)! He positions himself to confront the 3 if what he suspects starts to go down, and the one says come on guys lets go!

Tehy call the police, and tell the tale. they actually were smart enoung to get a discription of the car and the license number! The police scold the permit holder but tell him that they are not going to prosicute because he just saved the girls life! Three hours later a state poice officer spots the same car in another party store parkinglot, and calls for back up! he pulls in to pretend to get gas while he waits for them to arrive.

they arrest the three, who have comitted dozens of robberies and in many cases killied the clerk in the stores!

but you won't here about it on the news! By the By, do you thing that these find individuals would ahve given up their guns if they passed laws making them illegal?

One of the annoying things about being on the internet is that you can't say things slowly to people so it sinks in...but I'll say it AGAIN any way.

Even BEFORE the ban there were $#@! all guns down here anyway. Farmers and collectors were about the only people who had them.

Oh, and credible link to stats pre 1996 and post 1996 with regard to crime and how it relates to lack of guns. Take your time....

[Ivan88]

The 10 Commandments is one of the earliest declarations for the rights of man. He has a right not to be murdered, robbed or hassled or lied against, and society in general has a duty to uphold his rights and to honor Truth, Mercy and Faith, the weightier matters of the Law. It is all based on love of your fellow man rather than coveting what he has and trying to kill or rob him.

Under such a system, a man has full right to be armed against anyone trying to violate those 10 Commandments.

After the American Revolution, which wasn't lawful, the public servants rebelled against the American people and gradually imposed ever more stringent regulations and taxes upon them.
This rebellion continued with Lincoln's Civil War scam & Communist Revolution that greatly increased the power of rebellious public "servants' over their alledged masters.
We are still under this regime of rebellious public servants.