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    Hate Crime Hoaxes are More Common Than You Think

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    A political scientist found that fewer than 1 in 3 of 346 such allegations was genuine.
    https://www.manhattan-institute.org/...than-you-think

    While Smollett's is the latest big story, the professor of this study looked at 346 reported "hate crimes" and found that fully two-thirds were false. The professor also wrote a book entitled "Hate Crime Hoax: How the Left is Selling a Fake Race War".
    In Smollett's case, liberal media pushed the hoax as being true, and from the beginning I think anyone who read the entire account knew something was fishy. I was certainly skeptical because the "facts" didn't add up.

    If the professor's data is accurate, why is this happening? I scanned some of the book reviews. Most of the positive reviews were "verified purchases" but not one of the negative reviews were, which indicates the negative reviewers didn't bother to read the book (or, they might have picked it up at a bookstore).
    I'm interested in hearing ideas about what's triggering these hoaxes (if you believe the professor) and what will stop them. I didn't read the book so I can't judge its authenticity, but if he's accurate -- what's going on here? Why would anyone want to make it appear as though race relations are worse in this country than they really are? We heard Smollett did it for money -- hoping for a better-paying spot on his TV show -- but what about the rest?
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    If you had a law that was so broad to cover a bunch of things, you use it. All you have to do to any circumstance is add an element of race. Like he called me this, gay is the same just say the F word was used.

    Of course it doesnt apply if its one person of color to another or one gay person to another. Straight White Males come to mind
    ALL LIVES MATTER..my life your life, our childrens lives, all childrens lives. To try and make it only SOME lives matter, divides us and fosters hatred and violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    If you had a law that was so broad to cover a bunch of things, you use it. All you have to do to any circumstance is add an element of race. Like he called me this, gay is the same just say the F word was used.

    Of course it doesnt apply if its one person of color to another or one gay person to another. Straight White Males come to mind
    I've noticed this, too. If we (as a society) want to get rid of derogatory and bigoted terms, we should get rid of them across the board -- no exceptions. Otherwise, we just keep them alive and circulating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    If you had a law that was so broad to cover a bunch of things, you use it. All you have to do to any circumstance is add an element of race. Like he called me this, gay is the same just say the F word was used.

    Of course it doesnt apply if its one person of color to another or one gay person to another. Straight White Males come to mind
    That doesnt pump up the democrat base, apparently hate does
    ALL LIVES MATTER..my life your life, our childrens lives, all childrens lives. To try and make it only SOME lives matter, divides us and fosters hatred and violence.

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    I think in many cases, probably even a majority, it's far more personal on the part of the hoaxer than anything having to do with politics or political advocacy. It's the basic human need for getting attention and sympathy from others, along with a desire to be - in whatever small way - famous.

    Then, too, in the case of some African-Americans, I believe that despite the pervasive racism, real or perceived, that they may feel - may have felt for their entire lives - they nevertheless have a difficult time pointing to an incident that makes them, personally, a victim of racist behavior - something more blatant and dramatic than being followed by security in a store, or having people cross the street to avoid them. Exaggerating the details of something that actually happened, or fabricating an incident out of whole cloth, provides some degree of fame and sympathy, while relieving that pressure to provide a concrete example of racism for them to cite.
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    I think some of these are argle-bargle but here's a list of supposed fake hate crimes: http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/
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    "Hate crimes" being meaningless redundancy contrived by Clinton but owned proudly and exclusively by democrats in their collapsing political sanity. Hoaxes begetting hoaxes.
    http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/120290-Vodafone-denies-5G-coronavirus-connection

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    Im going to role play ! Ole' ole' ..uh wrong "role", idiot. Sorry. "Peace to da brothers"! Yo! Good evening mofo's , Smollett here. Im a half ass bit player in a show that be in what..uh oh what be called an anomoly. Hey hey hey MEGA dude! Get dat rope and pretend you be hangin me hey hit me hit me. Dayum not dat hard sheeet
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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
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    https://www.manhattan-institute.org/...than-you-think

    While Smollett's is the latest big story, the professor of this study looked at 346 reported "hate crimes" and found that fully two-thirds were false. The professor also wrote a book entitled "Hate Crime Hoax: How the Left is Selling a Fake Race War".
    In Smollett's case, liberal media pushed the hoax as being true, and from the beginning I think anyone who read the entire account knew something was fishy. I was certainly skeptical because the "facts" didn't add up.

    If the professor's data is accurate, why is this happening? I scanned some of the book reviews. Most of the positive reviews were "verified purchases" but not one of the negative reviews were, which indicates the negative reviewers didn't bother to read the book (or, they might have picked it up at a bookstore).
    I'm interested in hearing ideas about what's triggering these hoaxes (if you believe the professor) and what will stop them. I didn't read the book so I can't judge its authenticity, but if he's accurate -- what's going on here? Why would anyone want to make it appear as though race relations are worse in this country than they really are? We heard Smollett did it for money -- hoping for a better-paying spot on his TV show -- but what about the rest?
    Not more common than I thought, I've always known most were faked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    I think in many cases, probably even a majority, it's far more personal on the part of the hoaxer than anything having to do with politics or political advocacy. It's the basic human need for getting attention and sympathy from others, along with a desire to be - in whatever small way - famous.
    I have to agree. While the fall-out may be along political lines, unless the person is an activist -- and I've never known that to be a factor -- he or she likely craves the attention and sympathy that comes when people think they were actually victimized. Like the boy who cried wolf and brought the townsfolk running to his defense.

    Then, too, in the case of some African-Americans, I believe that despite the pervasive racism, real or perceived, that they may feel - may have felt for their entire lives - they nevertheless have a difficult time pointing to an incident that makes them, personally, a victim of racist behavior - something more blatant and dramatic than being followed by security in a store, or having people cross the street to avoid them. Exaggerating the details of something that actually happened, or fabricating an incident out of whole cloth, provides some degree of fame and sympathy, while relieving that pressure to provide a concrete example of racism for them to cite.
    I can see that, too. When someone is expecting a certain reaction (racism), they may be more likely to perceive that they're being discriminated against. This reminds me of some of the reactions of African-Americans to law enforcement. With so many smart phones around today, we get to see a lot of altercations as they unfold or soon after. While blacks really have suffered discrimination to some extent by law enforcement, not every traffic stop is an intentional racist event. Reminds me of the Michael Brown shooting in Ferguson a few years back. For some blacks, it immediately felt like a race-based shooting, and even when all the evidence was made public, many still thought the young man was an innocent soul gunned down by a ruthless white supremacist. I guess it all comes down to where a person is coming from, perspective-wise.
    "What happens is of little significance compared with the stories we tell ourselves about what happens. Events matter little, only stories of events
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