Should the Hole be Closed

[Captdon]

I care enough to say I don't care. This isn't a tough concept. The "I don't care" crowd is actually an important data set. It will have a large influence on the decision making. For example if you have 10% of the rabid hacks on the right caring and 10% of the rabid left hacks caring that accounts for 20% of the membership. But if you have 80% of the members saying they don't care then the decision becomes easy.

This is 101 stuff by the way.

What decision? Members don't decide a thing here. Where do you think you are?

[Captdon]

Why would you suggest that? I joined the military when I was 18. So per this country's laws I was old enough to kill someone but not old enough to make an informed decision on what legal drugs or intoxicants I put into my body? I mean tobacco is legal at 18 isn't it?

I suggest you take a strong look at your opinions and decide whether they need adjusting.

I agree with you to the point that if 18 is old enough to die for your country, it's old enough for everything else.

[Orion Rules]

This seems to go back years, sometime in 2017 from Adelaide. Who is Adelaide? I walk the thin line between love and hate. But one thing is clear, I believe you are responsible for your self. Anything short of being responsible for your self is begging. I have more respect for illegal immigrants than I do for US citizens who piss on themselves and claim they are incompetent.

The Hole

With great regret, it has become necessary for intervention in the Hole based on increasingly and extremely reprehensible behavior by a few members. Some of the comments and behaviors go far beyond what would be considered “bad faith” and as such, the moderation team feels the need to intervene.

Examples of behavior that fall under “extremely reprehensible behavior” include celebrating suicide, advocating violence, harassment, attacking family members, and anything else that goes beyond the pale. To use a legal definition this will be applied to behavior, "that (goes) beyond all possible bounds of decency and that it can be considered as utterly intolerable in a civilized community."

A system of suspension and loss of privileges will be put into place immediately following this announcement. Anyone considered to be posting in the above manner will be suspended from the Hole for 2 weeks. If that individual gains access again only to repeat the behaviors, they will be suspended from the Hole for 4 weeks. If that final suspension results in more of the same, a permanent ban from the Hole will go into effect. It will be an escalated action.

It is also necessary to convey that the moderation team is extremely disappointed with how the Hole is being used. For years, it was a place to let off steam or to post humorous material that would not be allowed outside of the Hole. Increasingly, it has devolved into a pissing contest that often spills out onto the main forum because the vitriol has become so toxic. It is disappointing that we have to intervene now, when the Hole has functioned fine for years, but we believe this is the best way to preserve the original intent going forward.

Questions should be directed to any moderator via PM. This is the first and only warning.

Really, you judge between love and hate? In this case, you should at least be able to regard her decision as right. More than yours, at least half of the time. How is that for the rhyme? I Kings 9, Numbers 33, maybe in the next world it will still be Aaron.

[nathanbforrest45]

An 18 year old is old enough to pick up a weapon and use it because he was told to do so by someone he considers his superior. 18 year old's have no impulse control and will merely follow orders period. He is also full of piss and vinegar and doesn't believe he will die in combat. In essence he is easily molded. His independent decision making ability is non existent at best. You cannot equate following orders to making rational decisions about his drug and alcohol use

[Peter1469]

An 18 year old is old enough to pick up a weapon and use it because he was told to do so by someone he considers his superior. 18 year old's have no impulse control and will merely follow orders period. He is also full of piss and vinegar and doesn't believe he will die in combat. In essence he is easily molded. His independent decision making ability is non existent at best. You cannot equate following orders to making rational decisions about his drug and alcohol use

I was 17 when I joined. I assumed there would be a war in my first enlistment. There was. Iraq invaded Kuwait.

[Lummy]

I was 17 when I joined. I assumed there would be a war in my first enlistment. There was. Iraq invaded Kuwait.

Out of patriotism or need? Was that war and your military service what you thought it would be?

[alexa]

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[stjames1_53]

buh bye

[Tahuyaman]

Well, I think it should be shut down. It only promotes bad behaviors. Nothing good happens from that.