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    Quote Originally Posted by zelmo1234 View Post
    It all comes down to the Green movment is determined to force a technology on the people of the USA, before iti si reliable and cost effective. Even when you look and see the cars like the volt, and solar power generations stations are more enviromentally unfriendly through the manufacturing porocess, and because the plug in electricity is likely to be generated from coal than their fossil fuel alternatives.

    The green movment like in the 70's has little reguard for the effects that is has on other people! Now saying that their desire is driven by a rational plan to improve the planet, but they tend to disreguard the facts. They care little for the jobs that it would force overseas, and the unemployment it would cause. They could care less that it has a financial effect on others. which would most likely explain why many or I should say most of the people in the movment come from upper income families and they have little need for income as they can count on family wealth to support them.

    They care little that the jobs they would force overseas would mean more world pollution, as long as they can be seen as reducing polution in their area. which leads me to beleive that they really do not beleive in global warming either, or they would understand that sending jobs to china where there is little in the way of enviroment restrictions would be counter productive.

    This is what will cause the poor and middle class to reject green energy so strongly that it will be once again defunded and sent to the wood shed for decades. Which will once again delay the technology that will one day make green energy the cheap alternative to fossil fuels. Energy policy will turn in the next 5 years toward massive production of fossil fuel energy, clean coal, and natural gas. All to remove the governemnt imposed burden of high energy prices. President Obama stated it perfectly when he said the price of fossil fuel energy must necessarily skyrocket for green energy to have a chance. It has, and green energy is still 3 times more expensive!

    Instead of wasting billions in subsidies to companies that have no customers, we must put this into reasearch and development, through the university systems to develope the technology that will drive the conversion to green energy! unless this becomes the policy of the future, green energy is doomed!
    You have a lot of very strong opinions on things you know very little about, though you do seem to have internalized the negative propaganda quite well.

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    When green energy is viable without subsidies then the market will choose it.

    I was just watching a report tonight on Taiwan. They are closing down there last nuclear power stations. That makes them 95% dependent on LNG imports for all their total power. Their LNG mostly comes from from Australia. Their oil/gas would have to pass through the Chinese blockades. The USA has no LNG plants on the West Coast.

    A Chinese blockade shuts them down completely and sets them back 100 years. There will be no semiconductor exports. Green energy sits at 8.7% of all electricity.

    The Green party is a Ship of Fools.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    When green energy is viable without subsidies then the market will choose it.


    I was just watching a report tonight on Taiwan. They are closing down there last nuclear power stations. That makes them 95% dependent on LNG imports for all their total power. Their LNG mostly comes from from Australia. Their oil/gas would have to pass through the Chinese blockades. The USA has no LNG plants on the West Coast.

    A Chinese blockade shuts them down completely and sets them back 100 years. There will be no semiconductor exports. Green energy sits at 8.7% of all electricity.

    The Green party is a Ship of Fools.
    What energy is unsubsidized, o seer in the Fool’s cap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jes'fuchinwitcha View Post
    What energy is unsubsidized, o seer in the Fool’s cap?
    What are those Oil and Natural Gas Subsidies again can you post a link

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelmo1234 View Post
    What are those Oil and Natural Gas Subsidies again can you post a link
    Are you lazy, or just incompetent?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil_fuel_subsidies

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    Quote Originally Posted by jes'fuchinwitcha View Post
    What energy is unsubsidized, o seer in the Fool’s cap?
    Solar panels.
    Wind Turbines

    EV sales.
    Installation of the charging station being paid for by the government.


    All Green Energy is doing is creating more debt because it cannot pay for itself.

    The promises have never met the propaganda.
    Let's go Brandon !!!

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