Due to the Corona Virus, I would like to be a Brain Surgeon but skip the whole education thing. LOL
Imagine hiring a law firm and having them assign someone that did not even pass the BAR Exam to your case. Your fired.
Due to the Corona Virus, I would like to be a Brain Surgeon but skip the whole education thing. LOL
Imagine hiring a law firm and having them assign someone that did not even pass the BAR Exam to your case. Your fired.
DGUtley (04-14-2020)
carolina73 (04-14-2020)
I think the last bar exam I took was in a little dive in Bremen called "Why Not?". The hardest part of the exam came right after I put my cigar out on the forehead of an annoying Turk.
“Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.” - Barry Goldwater
FindersKeepers (04-14-2020)
Forget where I heard this, but "Law school teaches you to think; the bar examine teaches you how to practice law" seems accurate based on the lawyers I know.
It is really unfortunate how the pandemic has impacted students, but it would also be really irresponsible to allow "lawyers" to practice law without passing the bar exam for their state. It actually surprises me that students of the law would be the ones arguing for this.
I am going into a different field with a huge professional exam required for licensure in addition to anywhere from 1500 to 5000 supervised hours, depending on the state. The point of the exam is to demonstrate a basic in-depth understanding of everything from psychological theories, to ethics, to research methods and statistics. It is specific to a state/province. Because of my specialization, I will also have the equivalent of the first year of a JD (MLS) and the first year of a PharmD (MSc) in coursework and original research, which requires passing additional exams. This will be the culmination of... 12 years of university-level courses, and 3 years of practica and internships. Add the postdoc fellowship... I still won't be qualified for $#@! until I sit for my licensing exams.
I cannot even fathom skipping that step for licensure, regardless of how much training someone has and from where. These exams basically prove that you have the aptitude necessary to perform, and this seems more important with the law since laws vary from state to state.
If you look at how many people can pass the bar (or the EPPP/EPPP-2 for my field), it's pretty startling to realize that it's not just a formality. A lot of people fail or have to test repeatedly. Professional schools and doctoral programs keep track of this data because it can actually be how their program will be ranked later - a program with 80% licensure will rank higher than a program with 60% licensure, for example.
I will just give you a very simple example: I had a total cholesterol of 250 in the past. But 110 of that was HDL- which is very good and very rare to be that high. My doctor said I had to take statins. I asked why, my HDL is the cause of the high total number. He said that doesn't matter, the checklist says 250 is high and to prescribe a statin. I fired the fool and got a better doctor.
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