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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    Pic here: https://img.particlenews.com/image.p...8et_0OyqrzUd00

    Story, video and two more pics here: https://www.abc27.com/news/excessive...e-police-dude/

    The words of a Denver police officer caught on body cam may come back to haunt him if Justin Lecheminant’s lawsuit ever goes before a jury.
    Soooo, where's the badge cam footage?

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    Private prisons play a part in the over criminalization of America, but the desire to subsidize cops, judges, lawyers, prosecutors and others in the system is the main culprit. They financially prey on the population

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Private prisons play a part in the over criminalization of American, but the desire to subsidize cops, judges, lawyers, prosecutors and others in the system is the main culprit. They financially prey on the population
    If they play a part it's a nominal one but I'm skeptical. There doesn't appear to be any evidence that this is true. The proportion of inmates in private prisons has actually declined and states with a relatively large number of private prisons do not show the increase in prison population you'd expect if this were true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Private prisons play a part in the over criminalization of America, but the desire to subsidize cops, judges, lawyers, prosecutors and others in the system is the main culprit. They financially prey on the population

    The main culprit is people committing crimes. There is no desire to subsidize cops, judges lawyers, prosecutors or others - unless it's by the people committing the crimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    The main culprit is people committing crimes. There is no desire to subsidize cops, judges lawyers, prosecutors or others - unless it's by the people committing the crimes.
    Europeans have long marveled at the criminal subcultures in the US and the peculiar American tendency to glamorize them. I'm not sure what exactly happened or when but there came along this "mass incarceration" narrative that completely ignores the actual rate of crime.
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    The public wants the laws to protect society.
    The legislature enacts the laws.
    SCOTUS said that due process required that the accused was entitled to counsel - they must be paid.
    Then they were costing too much.
    Prisons cost a lot.
    The lawyers doing criminal defense work are largely over-worked and underpaid.
    The judges are slammed with criminal drug cases.

    If we let everybody out and had no criminal justice system, they'd be crying 'Where's the lawyers, judges, prosecutors and prisons - we need them'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    I can understand objecting to private prisons in principle. I'm open to that but the actual stats contradict the idea that private prisons drive "mass incarceration".
    I believe it is an issue in certain states:
    https://www.axios.com/private-prison...9d5ac2883.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    I believe it is an issue in certain states:
    https://www.axios.com/private-prison...9d5ac2883.html
    The only issue the cited article presents is inadequate security. I'm not sure if that's accurate or not but the actual stats contradict the idea that private prisons drive "mass incarceration". I'm not sure what it is but prison myths have a powerful attraction to certain types of people. They just can't let them go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    The only issue the cited article presents is inadequate security. I'm not sure if that's accurate or not but the actual stats contradict the idea that private prisons drive "mass incarceration". I'm not sure what it is but prison myths have a powerful attraction to certain types of people. They just can't let them go.
    Here is an interesting article: https://www.sentencingproject.org/pu...ivate-prisons/
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