Asphyxiation not the cause of George Floyd's death: Autopsy

[Tahuyaman]

@Peter1469 - Do you think it's likely he'll plead down?

I don’t think they will let him. That would lead to more riots. A guilty plea or verdict and being maxed out is the only alternative here.

[carolina73]

I don’t think they will let him. That would lead to more riots. A guilty plea or verdict and being maxed out is the only alternative here.

He would be smart then to fight it and then get it thrown out on appeal. I don't think anyone was calling this event premeditated so 1 and 2 are out. Overcharging is a mistake. It only takes 1 juror and then you have nothing.
If he gets the max then he will appeal and it will be reduced in a couple of years.

[Peter1469]

@Peter1469 - Do you think it's likely he'll plead down?

If the prosecution offers it which I doubt.

[Tahuyaman]

He would be smart then to fight it and then get it thrown out on appeal. I don't think anyone was calling this event premeditated so 1 and 2 are out. Overcharging is a mistake. It only takes 1 juror and then you have nothing.
If he gets the max then he will appeal and it will be reduced in a couple of years.

They have not overcharged him and there needs to to be grounds for an appeal. It’s not automatic as in death penalty cases.

[Tahuyaman]

If the prosecution offers it which I doubt.

Like I said, that would cause more riots.

[CenterField]

If the prosecution offers it which I doubt.

Are you a lawyer, Peter? You are very well informed regarding the Law. Your opinions are helpful in clarifying many legal points.

[FindersKeepers]

Are you delusional or something? The outrage here is because a bunch of goons were choking a man to death for 8 minutes while he pleaded them to stop. His criminal history has zero relevance, he was subdued when all this took place.

That's the way I feel.

At the point a suspect is cuffed and subdued, keeping an entire body's weight on his neck, via a knee is unconscionable.

His criminal history is a matter for the courts -- officers have no right to delve into that realm. That is outside their scope of duty.

[Peter1469]

Are you a lawyer, Peter? You are very well informed regarding the Law. Your opinions are helpful in clarifying many legal points.

Yes to each sentence.

[Peter1469]

That's the way I feel.

At the point a suspect is cuffed and subdued, keeping an entire body's weight on his neck, via a knee is unconscionable.

His criminal history is a matter for the courts -- officers have no right to delve into that realm. That is outside their scope of duty.

Right. You may use a knee between the shoulder blades while cuffing the perp, but once he is cuffed there is no reason to stay in that position.

[CenterField]

Yes to each sentence.

Good, nice to have you here!