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    no diffculty expressing thoughts Safety you claimed bird watchers were like Antifa not a organization but yet there are many organizations that are bird watchers .
    I was only offering you the chance to start over and alter your statement as YOU did before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletbob View Post
    did you think Antifa was against white extremist in black neighborhoods looting and committing arson assaults and destruction in permanently black neighborhoods marching with black lives protesters and committing crimes i crimes attacking cops walking with those black lives matter groups ?

    and are they not a terrorist group ? or are they version of the care bears ?
    I have posted why it will be difficult to declare them a terrorist group, do you have a rebuttal for that?
    “Conscientiously believing that the proper condition of the negro is slavery, or a complete subjection to the white man, and entertaining the belief that the day is not distant when the old Union will be restored with slavery nationally declared to be the proper condition of all of African descent, and in view of the future harmony and progress of all the States of America, I have been induced to issue this address, so that there may be no misunderstanding in the future”

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletbob View Post
    no diffculty expressing thoughts Safety you claimed bird watchers were like Antifa not a organization but yet there are many organizations that are bird watchers .
    I was only offering you the chance to start over and alter your statement as YOU did before.
    Read back, I clearly stated that bird watching is an activity, not an organization. While there may be organizations that participate in bird watching, bird watching is not the organization. The same is true for Antifa.
    “Conscientiously believing that the proper condition of the negro is slavery, or a complete subjection to the white man, and entertaining the belief that the day is not distant when the old Union will be restored with slavery nationally declared to be the proper condition of all of African descent, and in view of the future harmony and progress of all the States of America, I have been induced to issue this address, so that there may be no misunderstanding in the future”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    Read back, I clearly stated that bird watching is an activity, not an organization. While there may be organizations that participate in bird watching, bird watching is not the organization. The same is true for Antifa.
    Antifa its a loosely warped group that show up in mass to take part in riots its not like they just show up by accident,
    your thinking is very flawed Safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletbob View Post
    Antifa its a loosely warped group that show up in mass to take part in riots its not like they just show up by accident,
    your thinking is very flawed Safety.
    Who is their leader? Who funds them? What is their recruitment strategy?
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    Antifa is not one group Safety but many that work together for a common goal ,they are anarchist.
    Much like when terriost use sleeper cells .
    They have no central leader but many local leaders.
    No central leader. Again this is a common tatic learned by restince fighters as when one gets caught or as a terriosts cell is busted they can only give up so many people.
    As for funding I dont know Im guess mostly self funded after all a face mask a baseball bat and gasoline dont cost that much.

    You can deny they are a group all you like but clearly they show up for riots all over the nation and burn loot and steal assult the police and others expecially if their victims are outnumbered or eldery .
    They are well know for destruction of propery defacing. Building both private and public .
    Thats terriosm acts .
    Will you deny they do these things ?

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    perhaps Safety can tell us if Antifa has been involved in any of the following

    this is the definition of a terrorist group be it foreign or domestic.



    The calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear.


    the floor is yoursSafety

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletbob View Post
    Antifa is not one group Safety but many that work together for a common goal ,they are anarchist.
    Much like when terriost use sleeper cells .
    They have no central leader but many local leaders.
    No central leader. Again this is a common tatic learned by restince fighters as when one gets caught or as a terriosts cell is busted they can only give up so many people.
    As for funding I dont know Im guess mostly self funded after all a face mask a baseball bat and gasoline dont cost that much.

    You can deny they are a group all you like but clearly they show up for riots all over the nation and burn loot and steal assult the police and others expecially if their victims are outnumbered or eldery .
    They are well know for destruction of propery defacing. Building both private and public .
    Thats terriosm acts .
    Will you deny they do these things ?
    Thank you for making my point. Antifa is a group of like-minded people, not an organization. You can make no declaration of labeling a group "domestic terrorists" when they have no leadership, no set agenda, or if they are not a threat to national security. If that were the case, white nationalists would also be labeled as domestic terrorists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletbob View Post
    perhaps Safety can tell us if Antifa has been involved in any of the following

    this is the definition of a terrorist group be it foreign or domestic.



    The calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear.


    the floor is yoursSafety

    What is Antifa's goal?

    By your definition, every race riot that occurred since the civil war would be considered domestic terrorism. The Confederacy would be considered "domestic terrorists", no?
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    Its not my definition Safety its the goverments the same definition used by Clinton Bush O bung hole and Trump to Define what a terrorist organization is.

    As for what Antifas goal is thats much more complicated of a issue.
    The entire Antifa movement is based on being anarchist. However they seem to vary a bit from group to group just as the Muslim terriost groups do.
    As I said before they are a loose nit group with local leaders and various ideologies.
    Many are communist some are anti goverment some are anti fascist and some are just anti American anti goverment.
    So as to what their goals are its varied from local group to group. They do show up in force from different areas areas to riot and are well known for assults on the police the eldery and any group they out number .
    You have surely seen it in the news unprovoked attacks defacing property destruction of property arson .
    And while they do have different goals to some extent they are all anarchist.
    Perhaps you can show some examples of them raising money to help children or the crippled or elderly or the hungery .
    All I have seen of them is attacking and assulting people many eldery arson destruction of property and anti American actions , along with involvement in riots every chance they get Nationwide.
    I dont think you could call them the care bears now could you.
    I know I am just a uneducated hillbilly who never passed the 9th grade but even I can see they are a danger to our nation .

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