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    Fall Gardening

    Getting ready to protect part of your garden from frost to get the full harvest?

    Try making a schedule 40 Grey PVC based pole set up (last for many years), using 90 degree sweeps to make the roofs, this is the SAFE and STRONG way to make the walls and the roof support, there is no tension built on it, which is why "Hoop" style greenhouse are dangerous, amazed that "experts" push this type of short lived hazard.

    I have a couple of raised 4 feet wide by 25 long garden beds, with Bean and peas starting their blooming phase, since the average frost is only 3 weeks away, it means it will be very cool at night long before that happens, which would stunt the beans growth, therefore I will make a set up when completed, will be 3 feet tall, 4 feet wide. Will sink the 1 foot long 1" or 1 1/4" Grey schedule 40 PVC pipe into the ground OUTSIDE of the garden boards. to accommodate the 3/4" grey PVC pipe insertion.

    Here is a photo of simple set up, but they make it dangerous and uses the wrong kind of PVC pipe, it is for visual effect only, to show what it would look like having one set up using far better material, using sweeps to eliminate the built up tension of severely bending pipe, which is crazy thing to do.



    No pipe cement is needed, just some duck tape instead, that way you can take the while thing down without cutting or breaking anything, cover the inground pope with end caps to keep dirt and water out.

    Tee and 4 way tees connects pipes for the roofline and the walls between the "hoops" for strength and wind resistance, just push measured pipes and sweeps together, then some duck tape to prevent them from separating over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunsettommy View Post
    Getting ready to protect part of your garden from frost to get the full harvest?
    Try making a schedule 40 Grey PVC based pole set up (last for many years), using 90 degree sweeps to make the roofs, this is the SAFE and STRONG way to make the walls and the roof support, there is no tension built on it, which is why "Hoop" style greenhouse are dangerous, amazed that "experts" push this type of short lived hazard.

    I have a couple of raised 4 feet wide by 25 long garden beds, with Bean and peas starting their blooming phase, since the average frost is only 3 weeks away, it means it will be very cool at night long before that happens, which would stunt the beans growth, therefore I will make a set up when completed, will be 3 feet tall, 4 feet wide. Will sink the 1 foot long 1" or 1 1/4" Grey schedule 40 PVC pipe into the ground OUTSIDE of the garden boards. to accommodate the 3/4" grey PVC pipe insertion.
    Here is a photo of simple set up, but they make it dangerous and uses the wrong kind of PVC pipe, it is for visual effect only, to show what it would look like having one set up using far better material, using sweeps to eliminate the built up tension of severely bending pipe, which is crazy thing to do.


    No pipe cement is needed, just some duck tape instead, that way you can take the while thing down without cutting or breaking anything, cover the inground pope with end caps to keep dirt and water out.

    Tee and 4 way tees connects pipes for the roofline and the walls between the "hoops" for strength and wind resistance, just push measured pipes and sweeps together, then some duck tape to prevent them from separating over time.
    I've been using hoops with row cover for a number of years, spring and fall.

    I use a black pipe (for gas I believe), which flexes well enough, use spikes inserted (pre drilled holes) into the 2x4 upper frame of the raised beds to slip the pipe over to make the hoop. Row cover is laid over and held in place with spring clamps. The hoops are also used to temporarily protect seedlings from the deer with netting until we get the fence built.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunsettommy View Post
    Getting ready to protect part of your garden from frost to get the full harvest?

    Try making a schedule 40 Grey PVC based pole set up (last for many years), using 90 degree sweeps to make the roofs, this is the SAFE and STRONG way to make the walls and the roof support, there is no tension built on it, which is why "Hoop" style greenhouse are dangerous, amazed that "experts" push this type of short lived hazard.

    I have a couple of raised 4 feet wide by 25 long garden beds, with Bean and peas starting their blooming phase, since the average frost is only 3 weeks away, it means it will be very cool at night long before that happens, which would stunt the beans growth, therefore I will make a set up when completed, will be 3 feet tall, 4 feet wide. Will sink the 1 foot long 1" or 1 1/4" Grey schedule 40 PVC pipe into the ground OUTSIDE of the garden boards. to accommodate the 3/4" grey PVC pipe insertion.

    Here is a photo of simple set up, but they make it dangerous and uses the wrong kind of PVC pipe, it is for visual effect only, to show what it would look like having one set up using far better material, using sweeps to eliminate the built up tension of severely bending pipe, which is crazy thing to do.



    No pipe cement is needed, just some duck tape instead, that way you can take the while thing down without cutting or breaking anything, cover the inground pope with end caps to keep dirt and water out.

    Tee and 4 way tees connects pipes for the roofline and the walls between the "hoops" for strength and wind resistance, just push measured pipes and sweeps together, then some duck tape to prevent them from separating over time.
    Why the Grey PVC? Gray is generally for electrical. Because it is stiffer? Lasts longer in the sun?

    I'm doing this before Thanksgiving to replace my old Aluminum frame greenhouse that has seen too many hurricanes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    Why the Grey PVC? Gray is generally for electrical. Because it is stiffer? Lasts longer in the sun?

    I'm doing this before Thanksgiving to replace my old Aluminum frame greenhouse that has seen too many hurricanes.

    Grey PVC last a LOT longer in the sun, Electricians use it because it is REQUIRED for electrical wiring installations, better to use Schedule 40 as it is much stiffer than 200 class pipe.


    I was a city Maintenance Irrigator for 18 years, know a bit about Irrigation, Pipes, timers and so on. Know a bit about gardening too, was the City gardener before I was promoted.
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    We went south for the winter, but I planted garlic and onions. I read where they grow well over our Pacific North West winters I’ll find out in April.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    We went south for the winter, but I planted garlic and onions. I read where they grow well over our Pacific North West winters I’ll find out in April.
    NOT in Eastern Washington!

    I would pull them, hang them in a cool place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    We went south for the winter, but I planted garlic and onions. I read where they grow well over our Pacific North West winters I’ll find out in April.
    They should grow fine without you there to tend to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunsettommy View Post
    NOT in Eastern Washington!

    I would pull them, hang them in a cool place.
    No. I’m from the Olympic peninsula area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    No. I’m from the Olympic peninsula area.
    OK, that is a warmer area.

    In my area it can go below zero, which can make them get mushy from freezing damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunsettommy View Post
    OK, that is a warmer area.

    In my area it can go below zero, which can make them get mushy from freezing damage.
    Eastern Washington is hotter than hades during the summer, but very cold winters. I would call it a severe climate.

    My area is fairly mild all year long.

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