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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Again, categorically meaningless. I can do this all day.
    Something tells me you think putting the word "categorically" in front of "meaningless" actually lends weight to your completely ludicrous approach to this debate.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Something tells me you think putting the word "categorically" in front of "meaningless" actually lends weight to your completely ludicrous approach to this debate.
    Oh it does. What you are doing is taking things in different categories and saying they are different. Like dog and two. They're different categorically and to say they are different is to say something meaningless. You need to find two things in the same category. Science and religion might work because each is an area of inquiry but, as Stephen Jay Gould argued, each represents a non-overlapping magisterium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Oh it does. What you are doing is taking things in different categories and saying they are different. Like dog and two. They're different categorically and to say they are different is to say something meaningless. You need to find two things in the same category. Science and religion might work because each is an area of inquiry but, as Stephen Jay Gould argued, each represents a non-overlapping magisterium.
    Is Evolution a scientific theory or a religion? The two have separate vernacular and in my opinion are often times mutually exclusive. The Earth being 6,000 years old is a good example.

    There is no "faith" in science...
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Is Evolution a scientific theory or a religion? The two have separate vernacular and in my opinion are often times mutually exclusive. The Earth being 6,000 years old is a good example.

    There is no "faith" in science...

    Evolutionary THEORY is a theory.

    "Is Evolution a scientific theory or a religion?" is categorically meaningless.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Evolutionary THEORY is a theory.

    "Is Evolution a scientific theory or a religion?" is categorically meaningless.


    "There is no "faith" in science..." but there is, there is faith or belief in empiricism.
    Belief =/= Faith. Sorry. It just doesn't. We can argue semantics but you trying to convince me that in an OP that asserts that Evolution is a religion because there is belief in an outcome and both share that trait is simply retarded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Belief =/= Faith. Sorry. It just doesn't. We can argue semantics but you trying to convince me that in an OP that asserts that Evolution is a religion because there is belief in an outcome and both share that trait is simply retarded.
    Look up the definitions of faith and belief. At the level I'm speaking, they are interchangeable.

    I'm only arguing semantics because you're not making sense with your words. "OP that asserts that Evolution is a religion" is categorically meaningless as well. Evolution is a process, specifically of speciation. Evolutionary Theory is a scientific theory about that process.

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    Actually the study of microbiology and Genesis in the Bible is the same facts but are told as separate stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barb012 View Post
    Actually the study of microbiology and Genesis in the Bible is the same facts but are told as separate stories.
    On a certain level, to a certain degree, that's true. One could look at God's experimenting with finding Adam a helpmeet as a primitive sort of theory of evolution, or, not to pun, husbandry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Look up the definitions of faith and belief. At the level I'm speaking, they are interchangeable.

    I'm only arguing semantics because you're not making sense with your words. "OP that asserts that Evolution is a religion" is categorically meaningless as well. Evolution is a process, specifically of speciation. Evolutionary Theory is a scientific theory about that process.

    Both faith and science are grounded in confidence in axioms. One in God/gods, the other in empiricism.
    At what level are you speaking because you'd have to be going on the basis that a belief simply exists within each and that argument is categorically meaningless.

    There are two different belief systems:

    Evidenced-Based and Faith-Based. These are two entirely separate systems by definition... Discounting the vast differences in those belief systems is categorically disingenuous.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    At what level are you speaking because you'd have to be going on the basis that a belief simply exists within each and that argument is categorically meaningless.

    There are two different belief systems:

    Evidenced-Based and Faith-Based. These are two entirely separate systems by definition... Discounting the vast differences in those belief systems is categorically disingenuous.

    Science is based on belief in empiricism, in evidence, in what makes meters move.
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

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