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    Anti-trump IS right wing AND left wing

    This trump crackpottery has gotten so bad that trumpers actually think they are Conservatives! What a freaking joke! Anti free trade. Anti defense. Anti allies. Pro Russian.Now if the right wing wants to claim they are no longer the Conservative wing, then you can call anti-trump left. But the very notion of right and left comes from the conservative-liberal spectrum. So that would be a total construct.

    The fact is, trumpers are not right wing or Conservative. On the most basic level, Conservative by definition means you resist change. Trump was all about trashing the system. You can't trash the system and claim to be a Conservative. In fact trump represents the greatest threat to classic American values ever seen. He lies and abuses power without even batting an eye. It is because I am a Conservative that I see trump for what he is. And trumpers are actually liberals trying to bring down the system.But the fact is, Conservatives and classic Liberals all oppose trump.

    Trumpism is a new brand of liberalism - the ideology of abuse. It is all about winning at any cost.
    Last edited by TrueAmerican; 09-19-2020 at 08:40 AM.
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    Or is discussing pssy grabbing a traditional "family" American value?

    Is it traditional to attack war heroes and even gold-star parents? Is this where trump shows his traditional values?
    I'm ditching tPF. This is nothing but a right wing crackpot troll farm.

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    Trump needs to learn about traditional behaviors from Obama like how to act in a gay bath house, or banging the interns in the Oval office like Clinton, or corruption for political gain like Biden, Obama and Clinton.

    Very traditional values one and all
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    Trump has never claimed to be a conservative.

    Conservatives never claimed Trump was a conservative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueAmerican View Post
    This trump crackpottery has gotten so bad that trumpers actually think they are Conservatives! What a freaking joke! Anti free trade. Anti defense. Anti allies. Pro Russian.Now if the right wing wants to claim they are no longer the Conservative wing, then you can call anti-trump left. But the very notion of right and left comes from the conservative-liberal spectrum. So that would be a total construct.

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    The fact is, trumpers are not right wing or Conservative. On the most basic level, Conservative by definition means you resist change. Trump was all about trashing the system. You can't trash the system and claim to be a Conservative. In fact trump represents the greatest threat to classic American values ever seen. He lies and abuses power without even batting an eye. It is because I am a Conservative that I see trump for what he is. And trumpers are actually liberals trying to bring down the system.But the fact is, Conservatives and classic Liberals all oppose trump.

    Trumpism is a new brand of liberalism - the ideology of abuse. It is all about winning at any cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueAmerican View Post
    This trump crackpottery has gotten so bad that trumpers actually think they are Conservatives! What a freaking joke! Anti free trade. Anti defense. Anti allies. Pro Russian.Now if the right wing wants to claim they are no longer the Conservative wing, then you can call anti-trump left. But the very notion of right and left comes from the conservative-liberal spectrum. So that would be a total construct.

    The fact is, trumpers are not right wing or Conservative. On the most basic level, Conservative by definition means you resist change. Trump was all about trashing the system. You can't trash the system and claim to be a Conservative. In fact trump represents the greatest threat to classic American values ever seen. He lies and abuses power without even batting an eye. It is because I am a Conservative that I see trump for what he is. And trumpers are actually liberals trying to bring down the system.But the fact is, Conservatives and classic Liberals all oppose trump.

    Trumpism is a new brand of liberalism - the ideology of abuse. It is all about winning at any cost.

    Trumpism is a new brand of liberalism - the ideology of abuse. It is all about winning at any cost.
    True says something true. Except it's not a new brand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueAmerican View Post
    This trump crackpottery has gotten so bad that trumpers actually think they are Conservatives! What a freaking joke! Anti free trade. Anti defense. Anti allies. Pro Russian.Now if the right wing wants to claim they are no longer the Conservative wing, then you can call anti-trump left. But the very notion of right and left comes from the conservative-liberal spectrum. So that would be a total construct.

    The fact is, trumpers are not right wing or Conservative. On the most basic level, Conservative by definition means you resist change. Trump was all about trashing the system. You can't trash the system and claim to be a Conservative. In fact trump represents the greatest threat to classic American values ever seen. He lies and abuses power without even batting an eye. It is because I am a Conservative that I see trump for what he is. And trumpers are actually liberals trying to bring down the system.But the fact is, Conservatives and classic Liberals all oppose trump.

    Trumpism is a new brand of liberalism - the ideology of abuse. It is all about winning at any cost.

    Trump is essentially a common sense third party guy. The neocons hate him for the reasons you spell out , especially this whole make less war business. His and Bush admins "accomplished" the same things: Spending and debt records , corporate welfare, constant war, intrusion into rights and grow government.
    In 2016 the people wanted something different but thye were not quite ready to stray completely from the Donkephant. The repubs put up Trump the dems could not have found a more Washington insider type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueAmerican View Post
    Or is discussing pssy grabbing a traditional "family" American value?

    Is it traditional to attack war heroes and even gold-star parents? Is this where trump shows his traditional values?
    If it's not about him, he has no values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral Ackbar View Post
    Trump needs to learn about traditional behaviors from Obama like how to act in a gay bath house, or banging the interns in the Oval office like Clinton, or corruption for political gain like Biden, Obama and Clinton.

    Very traditional values one and all
    You forgot the women he sexually assaulted as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanne778 View Post
    You forgot the women he sexually assaulted as well.
    And you forgot the alleged part.
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