There is no logical reason that temperature data from more than 1000 years into the past is needed in order to project the climate 100 years into the future. Those projections could be made with as little as 100 years of temperature history. We have the Vostok, Antarctica ice core temperature and atmosphere history going back 420,000 years and Greenland temperature history going back more than 100,000 years. What is the point in comparing the climate now to a time in the past when the continents were in different positions, ocean and air circulations were different, the sun's output was weaker, and the earth had more and stronger volcanic eruptions?
I don't understand how people can believe that there is a climate change scam. That would mean that nearly every climate scientist and scientific organization was involved in a massive fraud.
There is plenty of evidence that the climate is warming and that this cannot be explained as a natural phenomenon. Why would climate scientists participate in a fraud and how could this
not be exposed. So far, no one has been able to put together any credible evidence for a fraud.
Last edited by skepticalmike; 09-27-2020 at 10:09 PM.
Your conflating man mad climate change with natural climate change. The climate is always changing. No I am not confusing it with the weather.
When you have fraud involved then people are turned off from hearing the same preaching that they hear from fraudsters. You see the same thing with COVID going on. Those that want to capitalize politically or monetarily certainly hurt the cause of those trying to get honest information out.
Beyond that, you really have no idea with any accuracy the age of the arctic ice. You are depending on models based on presumptions. A pollsters approach meant to get the results wanted.
Since air quality has been improving for the last 40 years then you have to explain why your claiming temperature is getting warmer. Some of your allies are saying it is the population so is your proposal mass extermination?
You (plural use) don't have any answers. You just have panic and then stupid ideas like buy carbon credits from Obama's friends/former campaign contribtors in Chicago. Meanwhile the example of Obama does not believe you because he bought a home on the sure is easy for people to understand. Al Gore did the same years ago. Flying jets to conferences adn having Al Gore land in blizzards really gave a bad image.
You know the 97% of scientists claims are fraudulent.
Most Metorologists did not believe you until the greenhouse cancel culture told them they would lose their jobs.
You know that converting power is terribly inefficient and you have no viable predominant source of energy that is not created by fossil fuels and converting fossil fuels to electricity to be transported and then converted again and again is less efficient than just burning Natural Gas and LNG directly.
When you have commercially viable alternatives and start building nuclear power plants, then more people will believe you.
Until then, it matters little what you say as "Global warming scientists" or fanatics.
Peter1469 (09-28-2020)