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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    The thread is about the West.
    So why are you talking about Hollywood?

    The facts are facts.

    You can rethink your knowledge of history.

    Sorry for bursting your bubble.
    You couldn't pop a water balloon let alone my "bubble". Stop derailing the thread.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    No understanding of the west is complete without inclusion of Terry Anderson's The Not So Wild, Wild West: Property Rights on the Frontier. Blurb from Amazon.com reads

    Mention of the American West usually evokes images of rough and tumble cowboys, ranchers, and outlaws. In contrast, The Not So Wild, Wild West casts America's frontier history in a new framework that emphasizes the creation of institutions, both formal and informal, that facilitated cooperation rather than conflict. Rather than describing the frontier as a place where heroes met villains, this book argues that everyday people helped carve out legal institutions that tamed the West.

    The authors emphasize that ownership of resources evolves as those resources become more valuable or as establishing property rights becomes less costly. Rules evolving at the local level will be more effective because local people have a greater stake in the outcome. This theory is brought to life in the colorful history of Indians, fur trappers, buffalo hunters, cattle drovers, homesteaders, and miners. The book concludes with a chapter that takes lessons from the American frontier and applies them to our modern "frontiers"―the environment, developing countries, and space exploration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Yeah not as much fun. I'll be honest I'm kinda like the dude that goes to a Star Wars convention dressed up as Darth Vader with regards to Western History.

    Example? I am a competitive gunfighter. I'm afraid to post my name or really any of the videos I have given this place can divolve into a cesspool but I compete across the country in competitive gunfighting.

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    Hint... I was one of those shooters...
    Are you allowed to make modifications to your revolver?
    If so, what mods have you done?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminO View Post
    Are you allowed to make modifications to your revolver?
    If so, what mods have you done?
    You can do little things like filing down the sight and some polishing of the trigger mechanism to lighten it up a little but the type of shooting I do the gun must be stock (except the grips).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Awe. Nice of you to join and add to this discussion....nothing whatsoever... Not only is your statement categorically false it has nothing to do with the topic.

    You can rethink your contribution to this Forum and this thread now.
    Nothing to do with the topic? It's your post about Earp. Maybe you should read you posted. Still, mea culpa, I went to the wrong site, Now, Quick Draw. you've had your High Noon moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Nothing to do with the topic? It's your post about Earp. Maybe you should read you posted. Still, mea culpa, I went to the wrong site, Now, Quick Draw. you've had your High Noon moment.
    Interesting fact. No one cares about your interesting facts which aren't actually facts at all... Quit trolling the thread...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Oh boy.

    Well, western history, such as it is, starts long before there was a "west" or a "history" to speak of.

    And it begins largely with the Germanic peoples who inhabited northern, western, and central Europe.

    Probably their "history" as a people formally began with their first contact with the Roman empire.

    Ironically, western civilization was in many ways a byproduct of Germanic resistance to being civilized by the Romans. Many of the values we now associate with western civilization - freedom, democracy, independence - were inherited from the Germanic tribal peoples that preceded it.

    The English common law, which forms the legal foundation for much of the western world, descended directly from Germanic customary laws that emerged in a tribal context.

    And you cannot mention these tribal Germanic peoples without also mentioning their pagan religion.
    I had an uncle that was a history teacher and read Zane Grey and the rest. There were never any shootouts where each guy would "draw". They were more than likely to sneak up on a guy and shoot'em in the back of the head ala Wild Bill Hickok. The fame and romance of the west came from dime novels. My uncle's claim to fame was that he once worked at a Texas gas station that was knocked over by Bonnie and Clyde.

    And! Wyatt Earp is buried in the city of Colma here in the Bay Area.

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