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    From Atheism To Faith In God ~ The Unbelieving Scientist And The Creationist

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    From Atheism to Saving Faith In God

    Scientist: I sometimes wonder if our "Natural Selection" can actually carry the heavy
    load we have placed upon it?


    Creationist: I too have some doubts. I don't always fully understand the Creation Story
    in Genesis. Some of your fellow scientists have accused me of believing in a "talking
    snake"

    Scientist: Well, they ought not to have accused you of that. Obviously the snake was
    metaphorical language, everybody knows snakes cannot talk.

    Creationist: Thanks I'm glad you understand that. The snake represented Evil and
    delivered the message that Evil always delivers.

    Scientist: What message is that?

    Creationist: That humans can be their own God.

    Scientist: I don't understand. What do you mean "be their own God"?

    Creationist: Its easy to understand. The snake, that is Evil, told Eve that if she ignored
    God's commands and did what she wanted to do, that she would become like God.

    Scientist: What was the exact words and where is that found?

    Creationist: The exact words were "you will be like God" and its found in Genesis 3:5

    Scientist: You believe Christ saved us from Evil, is that correct?

    Creationist: Yes that's right, the Lord Jesus saved us from Evil, the Evil that will destroy
    our souls if we do not have a Savior to deliver us from the strength and power of Evil.

    Scientist: I don't understand that. Explain to me how Jesus can deliver us from Evil and
    prevent us from being destroyed by it.

    Creationist: Jesus took your punishment on the Cross.

    Scientist: I don't understand that. That makes no sense to me.

    Creationist: Its not difficult to understand, Evil is not only severely punishable but it will also
    destroy the total person if it is not stopped and reversed.

    Scientist: You said Evil is punishable?

    Creationist: That is correct. The Bible teaches that God will punish all men who do evil.

    Scientist: Well, I know that all men have done at least some Evil.

    Creationist: That is correct and God will punish men for all their Evil if they do not believe
    in His Son the Lord Jesus who took their punishment in their place.

    Scientist: In their place?

    Creationist: Yes in their place on the Cross. Christ took your punishment so you would
    not have to bear it yourself.

    Scientist: Where in the Bible does it say that?

    Creationist: In 1 Peter 2:24 it says "He himself bore our sins" in his body on the cross,
    so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been
    healed."

    Scientist: My mother taught me the words of John 3:16 when I was a young boy, and I
    have never forgotten them, it goes like this "For God so loved the world that He gave
    His one and only Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have Eternal Life."

    Creationist: Yes, for God so loved the world that He punished His own Son for the sins
    of the world so that we humans would not have to bear the excruciating pain and agony
    that Christ bore for us on the Cross.

    Scientist: I once, long ago, prayed the sinner's prayer. I remember I prayed to God
    something along the lines of "Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and I ask for Your
    forgiveness. I believe You died for my sins and rose from the dead. I turn from my
    sins and invite You to come into my heart and life. I want to trust and follow You
    as my Lord and Savior."

    Creationist: Did you understand what you were praying?

    Scientist: No at the time I did not. In fact I have never understood it.

    Creationist: There is nothing more profound than the simple words of John 3:16.

    Scientist: Christianity has always seems complicated to me. Are you saying that
    Christianity is simple and not complicated?

    Creationist: Yes and quite simple too.

    Scientist: Can you give an example of Christianity's simplicity?

    Creationist: A man known to be a brilliant intellectual was asked to deliver a speech to
    a college assembly and he was asked to present the most profound truth he had ever
    come across in his decades of studies. When the time came for his speech, he walked
    to the podium and looked out over the audience for a long time, without saying a word.
    Time passed and people began to get nervous. At long last the speaker spoke and he
    said this, "Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so." Then without saying
    another word he went back to his seat. Many in the audience wept silently as the
    supernatural power of the Holy Spirit made that brief message real to their hearts.

    Ending:

    The Scientist once again prayed the simple sinner's prayer and he prayed from his heart
    "Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and I ask for Your forgiveness. I believe You
    died for my sins and rose from the dead. I turn from my sins and invite You to come
    into my heart and life. I want to trust and follow You as my Lord and Savior."

    Then an amazing thing happened. The supernatural power of the Holy Spirit enlightened
    the mind of the Scientist so that he could now understand spiritual truths and the Scientist
    turned away from his Atheism and became a believing Christian.

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    "The Lord Has Laid On Him The Iniquity Of Us All" , , ,

    "He was despised and rejected by mankind,
    a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
    Like one from whom people hide their faces
    he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

    Surely he took up our pain
    and bore our suffering,
    yet we considered him punished by God,
    stricken by him, and afflicted.
    But he was pierced for our transgressions,
    he was crushed for our iniquities;
    the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
    and by his wounds we are healed.
    We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
    each of us has turned to our own way;
    and the Lord has laid on him
    the iniquity of us all."
    Isaiah 53:3-6

    JAG

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    If you haven't read the above text, I suggest that you don't. It only wastes your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javad View Post
    If you haven't read the above text, I suggest that you don't. It only wastes your time.
    If I want to be entertained by something like that I'll find one of those Chick Publications pamphlets. At least they have pictures.

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    It took me studying science particular microbiology to understand the words chosen to tell the Genesis story. The words in Genesis describes the behavior of our invisible world of microbes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javad View Post
    If you haven't read the above text, I suggest
    that you don't. It only wastes your time.

    I don't think it wastes anyone's time to read a story about a human being
    coming to believe in the Lord Jesus as his Savior.

    My story had a beautiful ending. The Ending alone is worth a careful read.


    Creationist: A man known to be a brilliant intellectual was asked to deliver a speech to
    a college assembly and he was asked to present the most profound truth he had ever
    come across in his decades of studies. When the time came for his speech, he walked
    to the podium and looked out over the audience for a long time, without saying a word.
    Time passed and people began to get nervous. At long last the speaker spoke and he
    said this, "Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so." Then without saying
    another word he went back to his seat. Many in the audience wept silently as the
    supernatural power of the Holy Spirit made that brief message real to their hearts.

    Ending:

    The Scientist once again prayed the simple sinner's prayer and he prayed from his heart
    "Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and I ask for Your forgiveness. I believe You
    died for my sins and rose from the dead. I turn from my sins and invite You to come
    into my heart and life. I want to trust and follow You as my Lord and Savior."

    Then an amazing thing happened. The supernatural power of the Holy Spirit enlightened
    the mind of the Scientist so that he could now understand spiritual truths and the Scientist
    turned away from his Atheism and became a believing Christian.


    Best.


    JAG


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    Quote Originally Posted by barb012 View Post
    It took me studying science particular microbiology to understand
    the words chosen to tell the Genesis story. The words in Genesis
    describes the behavior of our invisible world of microbes.

    Could you elaborate on that for me? I would be interested in reading
    your thoughts on that.

    Best

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    "And we know that in all things God works for the good
    of those who love him, who have been called according
    to his purpose."___Romans 8:28



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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post

    If I want to be entertained by something like that
    I'll find one of those Chick Publications pamphlets.
    At least they have pictures.


    You are familiar with "So in everything do unto others as you would have them
    do unto you", and you probably think that's a good rule to live by. If you had
    written an OP with good intentions, how would you like it if someone came
    into your thread and posted what you just posted up there?
    Do you think that is doing unto other as you would have them do
    unto you?

    Best..


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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG View Post
    You are familiar with "So in everything do unto others as you would have them
    do unto you", and you probably think that's a good rule to live by. If you had
    written an OP with good intentions, how would you like it if someone came
    into your thread and posted what you just posted up there?
    Do you think that is doing unto other as you would have them do
    unto you?

    Best..


    JAG
    Were I guilty of posting a simple-minded, obnoxiously patronizing OP like the one in this thread, I would expect to catch some flak for it. What sort of reactions were you honestly expecting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Were I guilty of posting a simple-minded, obnoxiously
    patronizing OP like the one in this thread, I would
    expect to catch some flak for it. What sort of
    reactions were you honestly expecting?

    Thank you for your kindness and your compassion
    and for being polite and courteous.

    Best.

    JAG


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