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    I can get out of cuffs unless they are really tight. Flexible thumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Interesting, didn't know that.
    Yeah he was actually a pretty weird looking dude. Here is a great description that fits the pictures I've seen pretty close:

    Most noticeable physical traits: The Kid was slender in built, with narrow sloped shoulders, long neck, and an oval shaped face. He also had a small mouth with narrow lips and crooked protruding front teeth. He had small hands and feet, and supposedly large wrists, which gave him the ability to slip out of handcuffs.
    http://www.aboutbillythekid.com/bill...t_a_glance.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Well that and he had big wrists with little hands. It gave him the ability to slip handcuffs off.
    Good to keep in mind for the future.



    Hey, I'm not the one who injected politics into the thread.

    Seriously, that happens. When I was with the Base Police at Pearl Harbor we were taking this kid back to his ship and when I opened up the back of the van he stepped out and handed me the cuffs he'd had on. Same thing - hands too small to effectively cuff.

    There aren't too many existing photos of Billy, although a couple have surfaced in recent years. I recall that somebody, a lawyer I think, bought an old photo at a flea market a few years ago for $2 that sold at auction for millions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Good to keep in mind for the future.



    Hey, I'm not the one who injected politics into the thread.

    Seriously, that happens. When I was with the Base Police at Pearl Harbor we were taking this kid back to his ship and when I opened up the back of the van he stepped out and handed me the cuffs he'd had on. Same thing - hands too small to effectively cuff.

    There aren't too many existing photos of Billy, although a couple have surfaced in recent years. I recall that somebody, a lawyer I think, bought an old photo at a flea market a few years ago for $2 that sold at auction for millions.
    Yup.



    Can you guess which one he is without Googling it?

    Another one was found in 2019 and confirmed. I'll post that one second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Yup.



    Can you guess which one he is without Googling it?

    Another one was found in 2019 and confirmed. I'll post that one second.
    I think he's on the far left. That's similar to the hat he wears in other known photos.
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    Here is the 2nd most recently found.

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    Here's the one I was thinking about that the lawyer bought. And it was $10.



    Billy is second from the left.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/u...kid-photo.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    I think he's on the far left. That's similar to the hat he wears in other known photos.
    That's the one! Apparently he enjoyed croquet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    Here's the one I was thinking about that the lawyer bought. And it was $10.



    Billy is second from the left.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/u...kid-photo.html
    I hadn't seen that one! That looks like Pat Garrett on the right too. If so that dude is a millionaire for sure. I don't have a subscription to the NYT so can't get to the article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    I hadn't seen that one! That looks like Pat Garrett on the right too. If so that dude is a millionaire for sure. I don't have a subscription to the NYT so can't get to the article.
    I don't either, but for some reason it's not giving me the usual pop up demand to subscribe.

    • Nov. 16, 2017


    At a flea market six years ago, a North Carolina lawyer named Frank Abrams unknowingly bought a rare photograph that experts say shows Billy the Kid relaxing with the man who would eventually kill him.
    Billy the Kid, one of the best-known outlaws in American history, is thought to be there in the back, second from the left. The man all the way to the right is Pat Garrett, who would soon become the sheriff of Lincoln County, N.M., and — the story goes — shoot the outlaw dead in a darkened room.
    The men appear on a tintype that is about the size of a man’s palm. (Tintypes are photographic images produced on thin sheets of metal. They became popular during the late 19th century and, as in this case, often show a version of reality that is reversed, left-to-right.)
    In 2011, Mr. Abrams saw nothing more than a group of five men who looked like cowboys. He considered it a strange find, since most tintypes that ended up in North Carolina harkened back to the American South, not the Wild West. So he bought it for $10, he said in a phone interview, and put it up in his home. It hung in a room where he hosted Airbnb guests. Mr. Abrams used to jokingly tell them that it was a picture of Jesse James.

    A similar find — a tintype that experts said showed Billy the Kid playing croquet with friends — was valued at around $5 million in 2015. The discovery motivated Mr. Abrams to take a closer look at his own picture.
    He turned to Google and eventually zeroed in on the man on the right with the severe features and the dark hat. “Oh my gosh,” he recalled saying. “That is Pat Garrett in my picture.”
    Then, Mr. Abrams began to wonder about the man in the back with the prominent Adam’s apple. He eventually showed the tintype to Robert Stahl, a retired professor at Arizona State University and an expert on Billy the Kid.
    Mr. Stahl encouraged Mr. Abrams to show the image to experts.
    William Dunniway, a tintype expert, said the photograph was almost certainly taken between 1875 and 1880. “Everything matches: the plate, the clothing, the firearm,” he said in a phone interview. Mr. Dunniway worked with a forensics expert, Kent Gibson, to conclude that Billy the Kid and Mr. Garrett were indeed pictured.
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