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    The Army is rolling out a new fitness test: Will it hold back women?

    The Army is rolling out a new fitness test: Will it hold back women?

    The new test will hold back women, older soldiers, and reservists (who will have much less opportunity to train on the actual equipment). It is age and gender agnostic.

    An Army initiative to create a stronger, fitter fighting force has yielded a dramatic gender gap, raising questions about whether the service might unintentionally compound barriers for women trying to move up the ranks.


    Recent Army figures show that 54 percent of female soldiers failed the new Army Combat Fitness Test (ACFT), which is being rolled out on a provisional basis, compared with 7 percent of men during the second quarter of 2020.




    That reflects a significant improvement over last year, when leaked data showed that over 80 percent of a smaller cohort of female test-takers failed the six-event exam. But some women fear they won’t be able to pass even with additional training or will continue to score lower than men, potentially affecting their career prospects in an institution already struggling to shed historical gender and racial disparities.





    The test, which will become the service’s official fitness test next month, has prompted a broader debate over whether the service’s focus on fitness and strength will elevate physical prowess over other qualities, such as effective and ethical leadership, or make it harder to retain troops with skills needed in an era of high-tech military competition.




    Army officials say the new age- and gender-blind fitness test, the first of its kind in the U.S. military, was developed to reduce injuries and better prepare soldiers for the demands of warfighting, expressing confidence that training will help female troops eventually meet the new standards.
    But combat is age and gender neutral. So it will be interesting to see how the Army reacts to the bad pass rates for certain groups of soldiers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The Army is rolling out a new fitness test: Will it hold back women?

    The new test will hold back women, older soldiers, and reservists (who will have much less opportunity to train on the actual equipment). It is age and gender agnostic.



    But combat is age and gender neutral. So it will be interesting to see how the Army reacts to the bad pass rates for certain groups of soldiers.

    Would it be fair to say that today's troops are stronger but lessa gaile or fit then the men of WW 2. Simply based upon size and lifestyle that makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Would it be fair to say that today's troops are stronger but lessa gaile or fit then the men of WW 2. Simply based upon size and lifestyle that makes sense.
    I’m not sure if that’s true or false.


    Over my 20+ year military career it was my experience that year by year new recruits were less capable physically.

    My last few years we would get troops fresh from basic training who never passed a PT test in BCT. They just passed the problem on. This is in infantry units. I imagine it’s worse in CSS units.

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    Did it for navy seals. President says he's going to reverse this idiocy.

    https://www.newsmax.com/us/navy-seal.../01/id/989860/

    America issued the EMancipation proclamation, not the Emasculation Proclamation.*


    *credit Mike Huckabee with that remark.

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    Is it the Army's job to be "inclusive"? Or to WIN FREAKIN' WARS?!

    What next? Wheelchair lifts into Abrams tanks? Instructions for carbine-cleaning in Braille?

    If women, or the handicapped, or older recruits, or the retarded...cannot make the grade...THAT'S HOW THE HARDTACK CRUMBLES.

    If the PC Army brass don't get their minds around this...we are gonna be in a world of hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypso Jones View Post
    Did it for navy seals. President says he's going to reverse this idiocy.

    https://www.newsmax.com/us/navy-seal.../01/id/989860/

    America issued the EMancipation proclamation, not the Emasculation Proclamation.*


    *credit Mike Huckabee with that remark.
    The ethos and creed statements now omit words like "brotherhood," which was replaced with, "group of maritime warriors," and where the first paragraph of the SEAL ethos stated: "A common man with uncommon desire to succeed," it now reads: "Common citizens with uncommon desire to succeed."
    It would be interesting to hear how this came to be by people from the Seal community.
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