China claims about Australia find, pure disinformation and slander

[bulletbob]

The coalition of nations aginst Iraq included 49 seperate nations . rhat sound sanctioned and legal.

How many nations are supporting chinas treatment of muslims ?

[Peter1469]

Basically because there's very strict rules preventing such things from happening in the global trading system, and if it does happen , there's plenty of avenues available to get it sorted and fixed . Anyone who claims that it happens repeatedly , only has themselves to blame for allowing it . It doesn't have to be tolerated from any country. Apart from that , it just sounds like bandwagon slander , over one incident , to suit the anti-China agenda.Haven't heard this sort of story from Walmart or Amazon ?

What avenues and how accessible are they?

[Peter1469]

The coalition of nations aginst Iraq included 49 seperate nations . rhat sound sanctioned and legal.

How many nations are supporting chinas treatment of muslims ?

Whether the US invasion was legal or not under International law is an academic question. International law isn't like a nation's criminal code. Nobody tried to enforce what they thought International law was with regards to US actions in Iraq.

And the UN did legitimize the US occupation of Iraq. To me that makes the question of whether the invasion was legal moot.

[Ransom]

Basically because there's very strict rules preventing such things from happening in the global trading system, and if it does happen , there's plenty of avenues available to get it sorted and fixed . Anyone who claims that it happens repeatedly , only has themselves to blame for allowing it . It doesn't have to be tolerated from any country. Apart from that , it just sounds like bandwagon slander , over one incident , to suit the anti-China agenda.Haven't heard this sort of story from Walmart or Amazon ?

How's the barley tariff going?

[Ransom]

I had also heard a rumor that Australian farmers were looking to new markets to make up for Chinese tariffs and that Saudi Arabia was one of those markets. Any truth to that?

[PJL]

What avenues and how accessible are they?

WTO (obviously) . In the first instance the party should lodge the complaint with The International Trade Administration, U.S. Department of Commerce , who would then contact the relevant department of the WTO , to pursue the matter . Preceding that , contact should be made to sort the problem out , between the officials of the importer and exporter . It would be interesting for Corolina to cog in and advise if this , or any other efforts were made to address the problem , or was it just written off as a dud deal and forgotten about.......I know that I wouldn't let it slide....even if it didn't involve a lot of $$$$s .....and , of course , there's always the matter of goods insurance , and tracking during freight , which would take care of any loss or damage during freight. Failing that , if there's substantial $$$s involved , he could have hired Chuck Norris or Mike Pompeo to go and sort them out.

[TheOneOnly2]

The United States doesn't look to the UN to discern legality, the Iraq War was sanctioned by the United States Congress by passing our War Powers Act.



No one claims the US is perfect and they aren't asylum seekers/refugees. We have hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers/refugees.......who come through the legal ports of entry like any other asylum seeker/refugee is required to do. Those you're speaking to have crossed our border illegally. Just thought the truth deserved some light in your darkened opinion.



How China is dealing with Muslims......who aren't radicalized is the question. And no, the UN hasn't done anything about China's behavior, there is no Kofi Annan or Butros Butros Gali or whatever his name was to declare their actions 'illegal' huh?



China doesn't like religion....because religion doesn't approve of same sex relationships?

Can you elaborate?

Guy said UN sanctioned war in Iraq not that US Government is some kind of world government that decides what international law is. And if its good for you to decide when it is legal to actually go to war with another nation and kill god knows how many people ( do you know how many orphans you created? ) then why cant China decide what is legal within their own borders? Anyway - this is why so many people hate America. You are like a bunch of Nazis. United States Congress doesnt decide international law.

And if someone enters the country illegally that does not give the US the right to abuse their human rights. UN Human Rights Chief is "appalled" by US border detention conditions. UNHCR is also deeply concerned about US asylum restrictions. You will wave in any Cuban that can row a boat to Florida because it suits your politics but the fact is that your restrictions in themselves are a human rights abuse. Many asylum seekers do not know how to legally apply for asylum - you should be helping these people not abusing them. And their children.

And its more than these people being Muslim - China is working to assimilate many different people - China still has nomadic tribes living on their outskirts for example but these people have children that hear about and know about civilized life in Chinas cities and its really not fair on those kids not to assimilate these peoples. Wait - the Uighurs are nomadic? I just google to see name of some of these nomads and its these %$%$ers. Yeah no wonder China is trying to assimilate them. Its not just about them being terrorists. Or Muslims. Its about the fact that if nothing else these people need to be brought into a civilized being for the sake of their children. No doubt their backward culture commits human rights abuses on their children and females/wives. Would you Americans allow Native Americans to live a traditional life? Of course not. Would you let Native American children sleep in a %$%$ing tent? And by allowing these people to live in 'reservations' you are letting down their children. Should Australia allow Aboriginals to live under tribal law? Let them spear each other in the leg as punishment for crime? Not make Aboriginal children go to school? Assimilation is important and USA has not done enough to assimilate Native Americans.

China doesnt like religion because it makes people act like lunatics. And also because they are often used as a vehicle for foreign influence. You western conservatives are very worried about Muslims bringing in Sharia Law right? Sharia Zones. Not going to happen in China. Not a chance.



edit - I watched a doco on CCTV about this Nomadic family from China and it showed one of their bizarre weddings - their daughter was getting married. And it was really sad because you could tell the daughter wished she was from a normal family. She didnt live with them - she had gone to civilization. But she did have to grow up with them. And thats not right. China is fixing it through assimilation. edit - They lived in a %$%$ing tent.

[Ransom]

Guy said UN sanctioned war in Iraq not that US Government is some kind of world government that decides what international law is. And if its good for you to decide when it is legal to actually go to war with another nation and kill god knows how many people ( do you know how many orphans you created? ) then why cant China decide what is legal within their own borders? Anyway - this is why so many people hate America. You are like a bunch of Nazis. United States Congress doesnt decide international law.

United States Congress decides US law, the UN nor any international law dictates when the US goes to war. And I'm certain you think you know what a 'bunch of nazis are like', I'm confident an entire Nazi band complete with instruments could crawl up your arse and toot out Edelweiss without you knowing any better. Sir.

And if someone enters the country illegally that does not give the US the right to abuse their human rights. UN Human Rights Chief is "appalled" by US border detention conditions. UNHCR is also deeply concerned about US asylum restrictions. You will wave in any Cuban that can row a boat to Florida because it suits your politics but the fact is that your restrictions in themselves are a human rights abuse. Many asylum seekers do not know how to legally apply for asylum - you should be helping these people not abusing them. And their children.

You made an error, I corrected it. The US allows asylum seekers and refugees through established ports of entry. You are speaking to people who are violating our laws, who are crossing our border illegally. And I see no human rights abuses. I see a wall being built.

And its more than these people being Muslim - China is working to assimilate many different people - China still has nomadic tribes living on their outskirts for example but these people have children that hear about and know about civilized life in Chinas cities and its really not fair on those kids not to assimilate these peoples. Wait - the Uighurs are nomadic? I just google to see name of some of these nomads and its these %$%$ers. Yeah no wonder China is trying to assimilate them. Its not just about them being terrorists. Or Muslims. Its about the fact that if nothing else these people need to be brought into a civilized being for the sake of their children. No doubt their backward culture commits human rights abuses on their children and females/wives. Would you Americans allow Native Americans to live a traditional life? Of course not. Would you let Native American children sleep in a %$%$ing tent? And by allowing these people to live in 'reservations' you are letting down their children. Should Australia allow Aboriginals to live under tribal law? Let them spear each other in the leg as punishment for crime? Not make Aboriginal children go to school? Assimilation is important and USA has not done enough to assimilate Native Americans.

Working to assimilate many people....who like citizens of Hong Kong? Oops.

China doesnt like religion because it makes people act like lunatics. And also because they are often used as a vehicle for foreign influence. You western conservatives are very worried about Muslims bringing in Sharia Law right? Sharia Zones. Not going to happen in China. Not a chance.

The Muslims in China.....are a vehicle for foreign influence?

edit - I watched a doco on CCTV about this Nomadic family from China and it showed one of their bizarre weddings - their daughter was getting married. And it was really sad because you could tell the daughter wished she was from a normal family. She didnt live with them - she had gone to civilization. But she did have to grow up with them. And thats not right. China is fixing it through assimilation. edit - They lived in a %$%$ing tent.

A %$%$ing tent? What like.....a teepee??!!. Like native Americans used?

China assimilated Hong Kong didn't they. The two systems one government promises from China aborted straight away. I think you're ignoring the facts.

[carolina73]

Bollocks.....stop telling BS stories.

LOL. You don't want to admit that your countrymen are dishonest? You nod yes like those little spring headed toys they used to put in the back windows of cars, but you never mean it.

Then let's talk about export tariffs that the Chinese government puts on outgoing raw materials so that other countries cannot but them and manufacture in their own country.

PJL. You don't know what you are talking about. I am being polite by saying it that way.

[Ransom]

LOL. You don't want to admit that your countrymen are dishonest? You nod yes like those little spring headed toys they used to ut in the back windows of cars, but you never mean it.

Then let's talk about export tariffs that the Chinese government puts on outgoing raw materials so that other countries cannot but them and manufacture in their own country.

PJL. You don't know what you are talking about. I am being polite by saying it that way.

PJL has been unable to discuss the tariffs on Australian grain. China's turning to Argentina as an alternative import market. Nor Australia turning to Saudi Arabia as an alternative export market. Nor the increase of US troops closer to Australian to include New Guinea. He especially hesitant to speak to the Australian-China conflict over this virus. Or China's border conflict with India. Claims it's all tripe.

Claims denial is an Egyptian river too.