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    The new civil war

    I found this on another political forum:

    David Horowitz: The Civil War Started When Democrats Seceded From the Union in 2016




    BY MEGAN FOX SEP 25, 2020 1:05 PM EST




    Conservative legend David Horowitz, author of the new bestselling book Blitz: Trump Will Smash the Left and Win, gave me an exclusive interview on Newstalk 570 WSYR in Syracuse, where he revealed his shocking theory about the current political unrest that seems more plausible by the day as revelations about a coup attempt to remove the president are revealed.


    We’re in a war. My book Blitz shows we’re already in a civil war. What the Democrats did in 2016 is what you call treason. They seceded from the Union for the second time, the first being with the election of Abraham Lincoln, which led to the shooting war. The reason we don’t have two armies in the field is that the federal government is too powerful so there’s nobody outside the government who can organize a military force that wouldn’t be crushed immediately. So the civil war is over who controls the executive.



    Horowitz has a unique insight in the communist wing of the Democrat Party, having spent his youth agitating for the left and even connected to groups like the Black Panthers, a domestic terrorist organization. You can read about his transformation to conservatism in his excellent book Radical Son. When someone of Horowitz’s caliber and insight into the left speaks, we all should take what he says very seriously. He may be one of the only living witnesses to the horrors of the left’s assault on America in the ’60s through terror and infiltration. Horowitz continues to reveal that he knows where and when the Democrat secession meeting happened:



    Five days after the 2016 election there was a meeting at the Mandarin Oriental, which is a very posh hotel in Washington, D.C. It was organized by George Soros and there were something like 400 people there including Nancy Pelosi, Elizabeth Warren, Soros, Bernie Sanders, the Occupy Wall Street communists, the whole range of the left. What they did is form what they called a “resistance” to Trump—you remember, 70 Democrats boycotted the inauguration. This is sedition.



    David Horowitz: The Civil War Started When Democrats Seceded From the Union in 2016


    Interesting...

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    18 U.S. Code § 2384.Seditious conspiracy


    If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384

    Advocacy of implementing established legal means for removing a President from office, such as impeachment, or for opposing his or his Party's policies, do not nor have they ever been considered "sedition".

    If they did, this move by the Republicans in 2008-09 would most certainly have qualified - but it didn't, either.

    https://swampland.time.com/2012/08/2...bstruct-obama/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    18 U.S. Code § 2384.Seditious conspiracy


    If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

    Okay.

    But I am not quite sure just what part of that conflicts with anything stated in the OP...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post

    Okay.

    But I am not quite sure just what part of that conflicts with anything stated in the OP...
    The last line, where Horowitz labels the Democrats' meeting and subsequent boycotting of the Inauguration "sedition".
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    Horowitz is a flaming racist, Islamophobic nut job.

    And his book Blitz isn't a best seller. Newsmax gives them away with a subscription.

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h...david-horowitz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    18 U.S. Code § 2384.Seditious conspiracy

    If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384
    Note the use of or, not and. Not claiming to be an attorney but conspiring to overthrow or put down doesn't appear to be subject to the use of force.
    Make Orwell fiction again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    The last line, where Horowitz labels the Democrats' meeting and subsequent boycotting of the Inauguration "sedition".
    I think he was equating this--quite correctly, in my view--with the so-called "Resistance," which intends to obstruct a duly elected president.

    Does this not amount to a type of civil war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo-4 View Post
    Horowitz is a flaming racist, Islamophobic nut job.
    It would probably be far preferable to make point-by-point refutations of that which he claims, rather than relying upon mere ad hominem attacks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    I found this on another political forum:



    Interesting...
    Dennis Prager states it started before 2016.
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