Coronavirus mutation emerges that may outmaneuver mask-wearing and hand-washing

[Peter1469]

I heard the same thing. They are making a documentary on it. It will be called The Blob. This green mas of COVID virus just keeps growing and consumes everything not wearing a mask.

From what I have read the Chinese research was to increase the COVID's gain of function- which aims to increase communicability and lethality. We haven't seen a high lethality, but these mutations seem to fit with the GoF changes to the virus.

[Peter1469]

bull. WHERE are these deaths occuring....anonymous patients?? Sorry but i'm not seeing it in virginia. Not seeing it anywhere.> IF deaths FROM covid were happening at those rates we'd be seeing friends and family..and CONGRESSMEN coming down with it...but we aren't. Because there aren't any.

Here in Fairfax County we have had 20687 cases and 586 deaths.

[Ransom]

OMG 788 didn't blame trump !!!!!

Then the media must not have......yet. 778 is a puppet.

[carolina73]

From what I have read the Chinese research was to increase the COVID's gain of function- which aims to increase communicability and lethality. We haven't seen a high lethality, but these mutations seem to fit with the GoF changes to the virus.

But the other labs around the world have been making different versions of Corona Viruses for years to develop vaccine technologies for them in advance. I'm sure many are more dangerous than COVID but that does not mean they are likely to occur in nature.

However, if I understand what you are saying then we should not avoid the virus if we do not want it to get stronger and lock downs and masks are actually stopping the viruses natural attempts to survive by becoming weaker.
In other words. Toss the mask and go out and party.

[countryboy]

Scary stuff.....but the right won't care....just don't wear a mask, congregate at Trump rallies, no social distancing...yep...that is what they do...not caring who they will infect.

A new preliminary study involving more than 5,000 genetic sequences of the coronavirus suggests one of the virus’s many mutations may be more contagious than the others, according to a report from The Washington Post.
The study, which has not been peer-reviewed, conducted by researchers from Houston Methodist Hospital, found the strain known as the D614G mutation was responsible for close to every coronavirus infection in Houston this summer, during Texas’s second wave of infections.


The mutation did not make the virus deadlier or change clinical outcomes, according to researchers.
All viruses mutate and most of the random changes to the genetic sequence are considered to be insignificant, however, researchers found people infected with this particular strain had higher viral loads in their upper respiratory tracts, allowing the virus to potentially spread more effectively.
David Morens, a virologist at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) who reviewed the study, told the Post the findings suggest the virus may have become more contagious and could possibly be responding to health measures such as social distancing and mask-wearing.


Wearing masks, washing our hands, all those things are barriers to transmissibility, or contagion, but as the virus becomes more contagious it statistically is better at getting around those barriers,” Morens told the newspaper, cautioning not to over-interpret the findings from a single study that has yet to be peer-reviewed.
He also said it’s possible the virus could eventually get around immunity when a vaccine is rolled out, similar to the flu.
“Although we don’t know yet, it is well within the realm of possibility that the coronavirus, when our population-level immunity gets high enough, this coronavirus will find a way to get around our immunity,” he said. “We’ll have to chase the virus and, as it mutates, we’ll have to tinker with our vaccine.”
The research is the latest in a series of studies suggesting the D614G mutation is more contagious than earlier versions of the original virus. The mutation has been dominant in almost all places in the U.S., Europe and Latin America.
https://thehill.com/changing-america...tmaneuver-mask

Show us some evidence that mask mandates reduce the spread of 'rona. You can't.

[Reason10]

Scary stuff.....but the right won't care....just don't wear a mask, congregate at Trump rallies, no social distancing...yep...that is what they do...not caring who they will infect.

A new preliminary study involving more than 5,000 genetic sequences of the coronavirus suggests one of the virus’s many mutations may be more contagious than the others, according to a report from The Washington Post.
The study, which has not been peer-reviewed, conducted by researchers from Houston Methodist Hospital, found the strain known as the D614G mutation was responsible for close to every coronavirus infection in Houston this summer, during Texas’s second wave of infections.


The mutation did not make the virus deadlier or change clinical outcomes, according to researchers.
All viruses mutate and most of the random changes to the genetic sequence are considered to be insignificant, however, researchers found people infected with this particular strain had higher viral loads in their upper respiratory tracts, allowing the virus to potentially spread more effectively.
David Morens, a virologist at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) who reviewed the study, told the Post the findings suggest the virus may have become more contagious and could possibly be responding to health measures such as social distancing and mask-wearing.


Wearing masks, washing our hands, all those things are barriers to transmissibility, or contagion, but as the virus becomes more contagious it statistically is better at getting around those barriers,” Morens told the newspaper, cautioning not to over-interpret the findings from a single study that has yet to be peer-reviewed.
He also said it’s possible the virus could eventually get around immunity when a vaccine is rolled out, similar to the flu.
“Although we don’t know yet, it is well within the realm of possibility that the coronavirus, when our population-level immunity gets high enough, this coronavirus will find a way to get around our immunity,” he said. “We’ll have to chase the virus and, as it mutates, we’ll have to tinker with our vaccine.”
The research is the latest in a series of studies suggesting the D614G mutation is more contagious than earlier versions of the original virus. The mutation has been dominant in almost all places in the U.S., Europe and Latin America.
https://thehill.com/changing-america...tmaneuver-mask

But you're safe if you congregate at THESE rallies.






Basically, you're saying that people with JOBS, (who attend Trump rallies) are in more danger than THESE animals.

[Leanne778]

Show us some evidence that mask mandates reduce the spread of 'rona. You can't.

Au contraire....

Can face masks help slow the spread of the coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) that causes COVID-19? Yes, face masks combined with other preventive measures, such as frequent hand-washing and social distancing, help slow the spread of the virus.

So why weren't face masks recommended at the start of the pandemic? At that time, experts didn't know the extent to which people with COVID-19 could spread the virus before symptoms appeared. Nor was it known that some people have COVID-19 but don't have any symptoms. Both groups can unknowingly spread the virus to others.
These discoveries led public health groups to do an about-face on face masks. The World Health Organization and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) now include face masks in their recommendations for slowing the spread of the virus. The CDC recommends cloth face masks for the public and not the surgical and N95 masks needed by health care providers.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...k/art-20485449

[Leanne778]

But you're safe if you congregate at THESE rallies.






Basically, you're saying that people with JOBS, (who attend Trump rallies) are in more danger than THESE animals.

IMO, protesting without masks is stupid. Any type of group congregation without masks is stupid. Any rallies without masks is stupid.

[barb012]

WTF? Are you spewing Trump's own words about how many cases HE THINKS we had? You know if it wasn't so sad it would be laughable that to you and your trumplekin cronies what Trump says is written in stone. It's a joke...I feel sorry for you actually.

U.S. coronavirus deaths rose by over 25,000 in July and cases doubled in 19 states during the month, according to a Reuters tally, dealing a crushing blow to hopes of quickly reopening the economy.
The United States recorded 1.87 million new cases in July, bringing total infections to 4.5 million, for an increase of 69%. Deaths in July rose 20% to nearly 154,000 total.
The biggest increases in July were in Florida, with over 310,000 new cases, followed by California and Texas with about 260,000 each. All three states saw cases double in June.

Hotair.com lol....

Why are these deaths still occurring when no one can go to any public place without a mask on. Are the numbers fudged or these masks prove they do not work. You can't convince anyone with your comments that are based on lies.

[Leanne778]

You forget that statement said showed. That would be a snapshot in time. Since you have the virus for less than 14 days then the Feb, March, April, May, June and first half of July cases would all have been history and just millions of now immune people.

10% of the US population is 34 million and 34 million people did not have COVUD actively in the last 2 weeks of July or any 2 weeks of July.
The estimate in June was 3.3 million at any one time (MIT) but I do not have an estimate for July. Your 4.5 number seems to leave out the fact tat some have become immune during the same month so they really need to take a snapshot = to the normal term of COVID.

What yu are talking about is 1% of the population has COVID during June or July at any given point.

Bullsh it....First, it's a conspiracy theory, it's a lie made up by your one and only and in turn fudging CDC reporting. Fudging the reports and numbers is what they have been doing and Redfield should be ashamed of himself. He needs to resign.

President Trump over the weekend retweeted a conspiracy theory falsely claiming that only about 9,000 people had “actually” died from coronavirus, instead of about 150,000. Twitter later removed the tweet, written by a user named “Mel Q,” who is also a believer of the QAnon conspiracy theory, saying it violated its rules.The now-deleted tweet pointed to a post on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention website saying that “for 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned.”

But contrary to the claim in the tweet, that does not mean that the other 94 percent did not die from the coronavirus. Many of the remaining deaths were listed as also having conditions that are directly caused by the coronavirus, such as “respiratory failure.” Others had underlying conditions that are not necessarily deadly on their own, but that make coronavirus worse, such as obesity and diabetes.

When you see that ‘only 6%’ of people had COVID-19 as the sole reason listed on their death forms, what it means is that there were only a small fraction of people who died of the disease who didn’t have any other underlying or immediate causes noted by the medical certifiers,” wrote Australian epidemiologist Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz. “This is completely unsurprising, as it’s pretty rare that someone wouldn’t have at least one issue caused by coronavirus prior to their death, and all it means is that in 94% of cases people who had COVID-19 also developed other issues, or had other problems at the same time.”

Asked at a press briefing Monday if Trump was trying to downplay the death toll with the retweets, White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany said: "No, he was highlighting new CDC information that came out that was worth noting."
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/514430-trump-retweets-conspiracy-theory-questioning-covid-19-death-toll


President Trump over the weekend retweeted a conspiracy theory falsely claiming that only about 9,000 people had “actually” died from coronavirus, instead of about 150,000.
Twitter later removed the tweet, written by a user named “Mel Q,” who is also a believer of the QAnon conspiracy theory, saying it violated its rules.
The now-deleted tweet pointed to a post on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention website saying that “for 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned.”



But contrary to the claim in the tweet, that does not mean that the other 94 percent did not die from the coronavirus. Many of the remaining deaths were listed as also having conditions that are directly caused by the coronavirus, such as “respiratory failure.” Others had underlying conditions that are not necessarily deadly on their own, but that make coronavirus worse, such as obesity and diabetes.
“When you see that ‘only 6%’ of people had COVID-19 as the sole reason listed on their death forms, what it means is that there were only a small fraction of people who died of the disease who didn’t have any other underlying or immediate causes noted by the medical certifiers,” wrote Australian epidemiologist Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz. “This is completely unsurprising, as it’s pretty rare that someone wouldn’t have at least one issue caused by coronavirus prior to their death, and all it means is that in 94% of cases people who had COVID-19 also developed other issues, or had other problems at the same time.”