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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I doubt Trump lobbied for it either.
    I've read an article on Al Jazeera that he lobbied Abe for a nomination before he even got nominated. This was in the news long before he got the nomination. I don't know whether his nominations were a result of lobbying though but it was happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by invictus View Post
    I've read an article on Al Jazeera that he lobbied Abe for a nomination before he even got nominated. This was in the news long before he got the nomination. I don't know whether his nominations were a result of lobbying though but it was happening.
    The "media" claims it happened. That doesn't mean it actually happened. The "media" has been making stuff up the last 4 years about Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The "media" claims it happened. That doesn't mean it actually happened. The "media" has been making stuff up the last 4 years about Trump.
    Al Jazeera is actually pretty even, they don't go into partisan stuff. Probably because they're not based in the US. I'm sceptical on their Middle East coverage as they are financed by Qatar but they do a hell of a job covering world affairs.

    That said, do you not trust all media or only media you deem left-leaning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypso Jones View Post
    ttps://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/president-trump-earns-third-nobel-peace-prize-nomination/

    AWESOME!
    Hope he gets it

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    Quote Originally Posted by invictus View Post
    He's also the one escalating tensions with Iran though? At the same time, he did well taking a first step with North Korea. Obama certainly didn't start any wars either, no credit there. Infact he got scrutinized for pulling out of Iraq. (Which was a wrong decision IMO)

    My point is, people seem to care less about actual policy and care more about whether there is a D or an R attached to the name of who's doing it.
    Iran attacked our military members in Iraq. Iran is seeking nukes thus setting off a middle east arms race. Iran is allowing China to move assets into Iran. Iran is still the worlds largest state sponsor of terrorists.

    When someone is constantly pushing the limits, that is the time to let them know they have already pushed too far. The alternative is by definition escalation.

    What Trump has done, is help facilitate numerous muslim nations and israel choosing peace as a check against Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaghdadBob View Post
    Trump has been a phenomenal president. There's space on Mt Rushmore for him, and he so richly deserves it. He's close to being elevated to god status.
    What a wonderful way to invite God's ( the REAL God's) wrath down upon us.

    Just claim some billionaire who $#@!s porn stars is equal to Him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by invictus View Post
    Al Jazeera is actually pretty even, they don't go into partisan stuff. Probably because they're not based in the US. I'm sceptical on their Middle East coverage as they are financed by Qatar but they do a hell of a job covering world affairs.

    That said, do you not trust all media or only media you deem left-leaning?
    Left leaning. Especially in the age of Trump.

    I find Al Jazeera to be fair in issues that do not involve Palestine. After Trump's Middle East deals (that screw the Palestinians) I suspect this may be pay back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Iran attacked our military members in Iraq. Iran is seeking nukes thus setting off a middle east arms race. Iran is allowing China to move assets into Iran. Iran is still the worlds largest state sponsor of terrorists.

    When someone is constantly pushing the limits, that is the time to let them know they have already pushed too far. The alternative is by definition escalation.

    What Trump has done, is help facilitate numerous muslim nations and israel choosing peace as a check against Iran.
    Iran sure isn't a friend of the US but every point you made is up for serious debate in its interpretation.

    1) Iran attacked our military base after we killed their general. We escalated the situation, they responded.
    2) Iran has signed an agreement with the US not to enrich plutonium to weapons grade.(6% as oppose to 90% needed for weapons grade) According to IAEA, they were abiding by that agreement. An agreement which Trump ripped up. Despite him ripping it up, they're still abiding by it; hoping Trump will lose and Biden will sign on to it again. 3) What's wrong with China dealing with Iran? They deal with Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates, I don't see a point on this one.
    4) Iran supports some militant groups, calling them terrorists is a serious stretch. US supported militant groups that opposed Assad for instance. Iran accused the US of supporting terrorism and they have as much of a point as you (or the US) has claiming the same about them.

    This whole thing is mostly about Saudi Arabia and Israel. Israel opposes Iran because Iran supports Hamas, which is a militant group that opposes Israel. Saudi Arabia is fighting for influence in the region with Iran, so they clash on that front. We had a deal with Iran that they were taking seriously. The whole world, outside of those two nations agreed that it was a good deal. Trump ripped it up and put us back at square one, pressuring them to negotiate. However, if Iran feels there is no bargain to be made, which there isn't as Trumps demands are unrealistic to begin with, they will likely pursue a nuclear weapon to gain a bargaining chip. The same way North Korea did. Except in Iran's case, that almost certainly means Israel will attack. Israel had already lobbied the US into war with Iran during the Obama years before the deal was signed and Obama instead negotiate with Iran, which pissed Netenyahu off. Now we have no deal and instead, we have escalating tensions with Iran. His whole approach to Iran deal was 'Obama made it, that means it was bad. No reasons were given, just rhetoric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Left leaning. Especially in the age of Trump.

    I find Al Jazeera to be fair in issues that do not involve Palestine. After Trump's Middle East deals (that screw the Palestinians) I suspect this may be pay back.
    Um, the thing is, right leaning news organizations aren't any better. Unfortunately with Trump there mostly seem to be two types: those who blindly hate him or those who blindly love him. Obama went through the same thing but in reverse. Everything he did was evil on the right and everything was good on the left. What's really disturbing is that when Trump does something that Obama did, people don't remember whether they supported it or opposed it before, they just care about who's implementing it. Principles don't play a role in politics these days.

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