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    We had an election system that worked well, with 3 options for people to vote.

    they could vote at their designated polling place, request and absentee ballot and, in some cases, vote early. Now, with all the different ways to use and count mail in ballots, it will be a big mess. Nov 3 is no longer election date...as now states have declared various times and ways that ballots will be counted, after that date. Some States have already mailed out ballots...and media says people are already voting. Are those states already counting the ballots? will they be giving an "early" prediction of the winners? It'a a mess and gonna get a whole lot worse...no matter who is finely said to be the winner.

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    There is no problem with absentee voting or even mail-in voting, as long as the mail in ballots are solicited.

    What you have occurring at the moment is, thousands of mail-in ballots are being distributed and mailed out indiscriminately and unsolicited.

    This is the recipe for fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodpen View Post
    they could vote at their designated polling place, request and absentee ballot and, in some cases, vote early. Now, with all the different ways to use and count mail in ballots, it will be a big mess. Nov 3 is no longer election date...as now states have declared various times and ways that ballots will be counted, after that date. Some States have already mailed out ballots...and media says people are already voting. Are those states already counting the ballots? will they be giving an "early" prediction of the winners? It'a a mess and gonna get a whole lot worse...no matter who is finely said to be the winner.
    Exactly. Just open the polls for more days. Start 5 business days earlier. Let them drip in. You can actually control the day they come by first letter of last name.

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    We emailed our Senators and asked why our election day has been changed...and, of course got no reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawkTheSlayer View Post
    There is no problem with absentee voting or even mail-in voting, as long as the mail in ballots are solicited.

    What you have occurring at the moment is, thousands of mail-in ballots are being distributed and mailed out indiscriminately and unsolicited.

    This is the recipe for fraud.
    The emboldened is spot-on. The problem lies in ballot harvesting and non-solicited ballots. There is, however, a checks and balances process in place that can (if used correctly) pinpoint fraudulent voting...at least to a degree.

    The second problem is the USPS. I live in the county where 800 ballots being mailed out to voters (solicited ones) were lost at USPS. They were eventually found, but it caused big problems. Then, some of the folks who voted by mail never had their votes counted. No one really knows why.

    I live in a deep red state so nothing is going to throw that out of balance, but swing states could be a nightmare come election day.

    If we run into an electoral situation whereby the House chooses, we all know what's going to happen. If SCOTUS has to rule on a vote recount -- who knows what will happen?
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    Actually there are problems with solicited mail in ballots. They are rejected at a statistically significant rate. Each rejected ballot can be contested in court. I expect there will be a lot of lawsuits over this.
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    I'm not comfortable with this idea of the election results not being tabulated as usual. We've known about this pandemic for months. If people wanted mail-in voting then it should have been done so that ballots could be already verified and counted on election day. All the excuses in the world aren't going to convince people it's legit if their candidate appears to win on election day, then loses based on mail-in ballots. These days that's a recipe for disaster.
    Make Orwell fiction again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaveDog View Post
    I'm not comfortable with this idea of the election results not being tabulated as usual. We've known about this pandemic for months. If people wanted mail-in voting then it should have been done so that ballots could be already verified and counted on election day. All the excuses in the world aren't going to convince people it's legit if their candidate appears to win on election day, then loses based on mail-in ballots. These days that's a recipe for disaster.
    It is an invitation for massive fraud.
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    The elction is still over a month away and there have already been problems reported "Human Error" I am sure
    "The powers of the federal government are enumerated; it can only operate in certain cases; it has legislative powers on defined and limited objects, beyond which it cannot extend its jurisdiction." James Madison 1788

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