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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Those who fight and run away, live to run another day...
    "Nu uh".
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Of course they are -- you just haven't figured out why.
    He knows that because Chinese authorities have told us that. The CCP has always been known for their honesty and transparency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    He knows that because Chinese authorities have told us that. The CCP has always been known for their honesty and transparency.
    Heh... Look at all these Chinese authorities!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/18/b...omy-covid.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/business...id-19-pandemic

    https://www.businessinsider.com/coro...ruggle-2020-10

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...800-8/fulltext

    Oh...but wait for it...it's a conspiracy! That now apparently includes the financial experts in addition to the medical experts of the U.S.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    The American media passes on information fed to them by China. It’s nice that some will trust the voracity of that information.

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    CDC Data Suggest Lockdowns Could Kill As Many People As COVID

    We have been saying this for a while; at least some of us. We have also mentioned that the US doesn't count COVID deaths the same as other nations.

    Three-hundred-fifty years ago, John Graunt attempted to give Londoners an accurate assessment of fatality rates of diseases in the community so people could understand their risk level. Until COVID-19, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) fulfilled the same role.

    Then the CDC abandoned tradition and sensibility and treated COVID differently than every other disease. For a death to be considered a COVID death, COVID no longer needed to be the immediate or underlying cause of death. Now, a death is considered a COVID death even if COVID was only a contributing condition.




    For example, a certificate that lists dementia as the cause of death but doesn’t list a respiratory ailment is likely to be a case of dying with COVID, not from COVID. Likewise for accidents, heart attacks, strokes, and any other non-respiratory condition.


    Singapore, for example, only counts deaths as COVID deaths if they are accompanied by pneumonia. If the United States followed this criterion, COVID deaths would total about 90,000 and be comparable to a very bad flu season.


    To disentangle respiratory COVID deaths from other types of COVID deaths requires examining individual death records, which are difficult to obtain. Fortunately, in May, Florida released data on 1,489 COVID deaths. About two-thirds of those deaths that listed more than just COVID as a cause also listed a respiratory condition.


    Applying this two-thirds estimate to the current official tally of 240,000 U.S. COVID deaths yields a very rough estimate of 160,000 deaths from COVID. Remarkably, this number represents about half of the approximately 300,000 excess deaths the United States has experienced this year, according to the CDC’s latest estimate dated Oct. 3. The 300,000 number is determined by subtracting the 2,240,000 fatalities the CDC estimates we would expect to have seen from January to October if 2020 were a typical year from the 2,540,000 deaths we have actually suffered.

    This begs the question: What is causing the remaining 140,000 excess deaths?
    Read the rest of the article at the link.
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    And yet they still claim "we hide in the name of the children" when the children are demonstratibly worse off! What kind of society is so cowardly that the old use the young as shields from harm? It's supposed to be the other way around!

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    And yet they still claim "we hide in the name of the children" when the children are demonstratibly worse off! What kind of society is so cowardly that the old use the young as shields from harm? It's supposed to be the other way around!
    A couple of conservative pundits said that at the beginning of the lockdown and were made fun of by progs and the MSM.
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    I would say in this case, the "Herd Mentality" should govern in the case of social isolation. Only the strongest survive. Many here have pushed the Herd mentality before in regards to other issues here so I feel it's a fair suggestion.
    God Bless America, God Bless our Military and God Bless the Police who defended the country against the insurgents on January 6, 2021

    Think 3rd party for 2024 folks. Clean up America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    I would say in this case, the "Herd Mentality" should govern in the case of social isolation. Only the strongest survive. Many here have pushed the Herd mentality before in regards to other issues here so I feel it's a fair suggestion.
    We have seen the COVID hit 20% max of a population, even a captive audience like a cruise ship. And of course very few of that 20% die. Pre-existing T-cell immunity (not herd immunity) seems to account for the other 80%.
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