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    I have no reason to be anti-Semitic.

    First, I am Jewish.

    Many Jewish people are Doctors, Lawyers, and Professors. I am not -- I have Asperger's Disorder. I am not suffering, but I do not have ability to succeed.

    My parents help me. My Jewish therapists help me. Chabad Rabbi welcomes me to his classes. No one has treated me as an outcast. Traditionally Jewish people help poor and disabled members of the community.

    Scandinavia and Canada also help all people in need.

    In USA, the Society rejects people who need help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCitizen View Post
    First, I am Jewish. Many Jewish people are Doctors, Lawyers, and Professors. I am not -- I have Asperger's Disorder. I am not suffering, but I do not have ability to succeed. My parents help me. My Jewish therapists help me. Chabad Rabbi welcomes me to his classes. No one has treated me as an outcast. Traditionally Jewish people help poor and disabled members of the community. Scandinavia and Canada also help all people in need. In USA, the Society rejects people who need help.
    "In USA, the Society rejects people who need help."

    Stop it. That's just not true. We have an extremely large safety net in this country. Four health insurance programs — Medicare, Medicaid, the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), and Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplace subsidies — together accounted for 25 percent of the budget in 2019, or $1.1 trillion.25% of the federal budget. About 8 percent of the federal budget in 2019, or $361 billion, supported programs that provide aid (other than health insurance or Social Security benefits) to individuals and families facing hardship. In 2019, 23 percent of the budget, or $1 trillion, paid for Social Security, which provided monthly retirement benefits averaging $1,503 to 45 million retired workers in December 2019. Social Security also provided benefits to 3 million spouses and children of retired workers, 6 million surviving children and spouses of deceased workers, and 10 million disabled workers and their eligible dependents in December 2019. https://www.cbpp.org/research/federa...tax-dollars-go

    Americans gave $449.64 Billion to charity in 2019. https://www.nptrust.org/philanthropi...ng-statistics/ An estimated 25.1 percent of US adults volunteered in 2017, contributing an estimated 8.8 billion hours, valued at approximately $195.0 billion. Approximately 77 million Americans—30% of the adult population—volunteer their time, talents, and energy to making a difference.

    How many vets have you taken to a park? How many disabled children have you pushed on a swing?
    How many handicap camp picnic tables have you painted? Lawns cut? backstops put in? slow pitch games pitched?
    How many days have you volunteered?
    How many days have you stood and collected donations in a snow storm?


    In the USA, American Society largely embraces and helps people that need help.
    Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect. -- Woody Hayes​

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    "In USA, the Society rejects people who need help."

    Stop it. That's just not true. We have an extremely large safety net in this country. Four health insurance programs — Medicare, Medicaid, the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), and Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplace subsidies — together accounted for 25 percent of the budget in 2019, or $1.1 trillion.25% of the federal budget. About 8 percent of the federal budget in 2019, or $361 billion, supported programs that provide aid (other than health insurance or Social Security benefits) to individuals and families facing hardship. In 2019, 23 percent of the budget, or $1 trillion, paid for Social Security, which provided monthly retirement benefits averaging $1,503 to 45 million retired workers in December 2019. Social Security also provided benefits to 3 million spouses and children of retired workers, 6 million surviving children and spouses of deceased workers, and 10 million disabled workers and their eligible dependents in December 2019. https://www.cbpp.org/research/federa...tax-dollars-go

    Americans gave $449.64 Billion to charity in 2019. https://www.nptrust.org/philanthropi...ng-statistics/ An estimated 25.1 percent of US adults volunteered in 2017, contributing an estimated 8.8 billion hours, valued at approximately $195.0 billion. Approximately 77 million Americans—30% of the adult population—volunteer their time, talents, and energy to making a difference.

    How many vets have you taken to a park? How many disabled children have you pushed on a swing?
    How many handicap camp picnic tables have you painted? Lawns cut? backstops put in? slow pitch games pitched?
    How many days have you volunteered?
    How many days have you stood and collected donations in a snow storm?


    In the USA, American Society largely embraces and helps people that need help.
    Compared to whom?
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

    -Darth Vader

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCitizen View Post
    First, I am Jewish.

    Many Jewish people are Doctors, Lawyers, and Professors. I am not -- I have Asperger's Disorder. I am not suffering, but I do not have ability to succeed.

    My parents help me. My Jewish therapists help me. Chabad Rabbi welcomes me to his classes. No one has treated me as an outcast. Traditionally Jewish people help poor and disabled members of the community.

    Scandinavia and Canada also help all people in need.

    In USA, the Society rejects people who need help.
    Yet you say you are getting help. And you say you are in the USA. How could that be?

    I am really getting the opinion that you do not want help. Asperger's Disorder is a mild form of Autism that people in society deal with on a regular basis. It makes life more difficult but not impossible.

    Are you searching for a life of dependency or are you actually looking for help is the question that you should answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Compared to whom?
    Compared to the contention that: "In USA, the Society rejects people who need help."
    Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect. -- Woody Hayes​

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    Compared to the contention that: "In USA, the Society rejects people who need help."
    Yes. I believe that when compared to some societies an argument can be made that in the USA our response equates to a rejection. I can personally attest to what I've seen happen at places like the VA.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

    -Darth Vader

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Yes. I believe that when compared to some societies an argument can be made that in the USA our response equates to a rejection. I can personally attest to what I've seen happen at places like the VA.
    We can agree to disagree. Time, talent and treasure are the three branches of volunteerism. The United States excels at all three though I know for sure that there are always segments we can work on - because there's always a segment that has a need. Unfortunately, need is infinite and resources are limited. In my book, that's not tantamount to a rejection.
    Any time you give a man something he doesn't earn, you cheapen him. Our kids earn what they get, and that includes respect. -- Woody Hayes​

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    We can agree to disagree. Time, talent and treasure are the three branches of volunteerism. The United States excels at all three though I know for sure that there are always segments we can work on - because there's always a segment that has a need. Unfortunately, need is infinite and resources are limited. In my book, that's not tantamount to a rejection.
    I guess one would have to be in the system to make that call. We have one here...
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Private Pickle View Post
    Compared to whom?
    Your question is complete nonsense. In other words, you are lying, and so you fall into the same category of vermin and Schumer and Schiff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    Your question is complete nonsense.
    Your answer isn't really an answer... Stay on topic please.
    I find your lack of faith...disturbing...

    -Darth Vader

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