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Thread: Most Muslim Americans See No Justification for Attacking Civilians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypso Jones View Post
    muslims lie.
    I disagree. This was an anonymous survey.

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    Most people don't favor targeting civilians, but most people don't understand war.

    As I said in another thread, wars are not fought between armies. They are fought between nations. Armies cannot wage war without civilian support. Wars are won by doing two things... destroying the enemy's ability to fight and more importantly, by destroying his WILL to fight. You break his will by threatening what he holds most precious. We didn't win WWII by crushing the Wehrmacht and the Japanese Imperial forces. We did it by destroying their cities, their means of production, and their will to fight.

    We haven't won a war in long time because somewhere along the line, we forgot how to fight one. We got away from the "total war" concept and started engaging in "limited" war. We stopped targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure. That hasn't worked and it never will.
    “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.” - Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    We haven't won a war in long time because somewhere along the line, we forgot how to fight one. We got away from the "total war" concept and started engaging in "limited" war. We stopped targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure. That hasn't worked and it never will.
    Total War is prohibited by Geneva Convention 1949.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCitizen View Post
    Total War is prohibited by Geneva Convention 1949.
    Whoever wins writes the rules.
    “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.” - Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    Whoever wins writes the rules.
    Sadly USA had almost genocidal policy is some past wars -- Philippines, Japan Bombing, Korea.

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    These polls are 10 years old.
    The questions are too open ended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    These polls are 10 years old.
    The questions are too open ended.
    In my opinion, religious attitudes rarely change over a single decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypso Jones View Post
    muslims lie.
    However I think the Poll results are beyond that simple explanation.

    Recall the question was about Military action not terrorism. Polls have shown Muslims have broad international support for terrorism against innocent civilian populations.

    What they don't like is when our Military hit back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCitizen View Post
    In my opinion, religious attitudes rarely change over a single decade.
    You aren't talking about religious attitudes, you are talking about how people of certain religions feel about the military and violence against civilians. The past 10 years has had a tremendous amount of violence committed by religious extremists. I suspect the answers may have changed a bit. I could be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCitizen View Post
    Sadly USA had almost genocidal policy is some past wars -- Philippines, Japan Bombing, Korea.
    This is why we are where we are now. WAR IS HELL GUYS.

    Democrats target civilians. it is covered up.

    Republicans accidentally or AREN"T targetting civiliians and the left media lies and says they are.

    Leftist media are lying bsatrads.

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