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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    CRT again.
    Hardly. I'm not discussing race, cultures or society, but the economic reality of mercantilism. Try articulating why you don't think that the colonialism that arose after the development of mercantilism, isn't related, especially when one considers that these colonies were, to a significant degree, supplying a great deal of raw materials for manufacturing in the mother countries, which in turn were often also being sold back to those same colonies as manufactured goods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    Agree but there is also the ability to minimize the effect instead of giving it up.

    Control what you can.

    If you do not have the raw materials then:
    Manufacturing of the goods is first.
    Processing of the raw materials is second.
    Mining is third.

    It may be that you have to buy the raw materials and then you need multiple sources to protect yourself. That's why China is active in Africa right now building relationships with the countries where these minerals are more abundant.

    If you do have the raw materials then you can reverse the order and be the source of the material leading to processing and then manufacturing the goods.

    Currently we should be searching the US for lithium for battery technology and making sure we have strengthening relations in Chile and Bolivia.

    Otherwise China is going to move in on those sources with the intent of locking us out.
    Unless you are willing to do as China does and use federal money to buy up these resources, you have the problem of finding US investors who want to lock their capital into things like foreign mines and also agree not to sell them to the highest bidder, which could be China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    CRT again.
    No one on the left can accuse anyone of imperialism without expecting others to laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Hardly. I'm not discussing race, cultures or society, but the economic reality of mercantilism. Try articulating why you don't think that the colonialism that arose after the development of mercantilism, isn't related, especially when one considers that these colonies were, to a significant degree, supplying a great deal of raw materials for manufacturing in the mother countries, which in turn were often also being sold back to those same colonies as manufactured goods.
    Colonization is a big part of CRT. You'd do yourself service to find out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    I was going toward more of a soft mercantilism, I believe. It does make sense to expect a country of a certain magnitude to produce and export more than it takes in, doesn't it?
    I agree with that. No definition that I have ever seen was an absolute. There has never communism, socialism, theocracy...or any other term that existed in pure form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    No treaty specifically about the moon. There is the outerspace treaty that prevents its militarization. We ought to ignore that.

    Yes mining the moon and the asteroid belt is cost effective. The people who get it done will be the first trillionaires on earth.
    Outer Space Treaty, first two articles:
    Article I
    The exploration and use of outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies, shall be carried out for the benefit and in the interests of all countries, irrespective of their degree of economic or scientific development, and shall be the province of all mankind.

    Outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies, shall be free for exploration and use by all States without discrimination of any kind, on a basis of equality and in accordance with international law, and there shall be free access to all areas of celestial bodies.

    There shall be freedom of scientific investigation in outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies, and States shall facilitate and encourage international co-operation in such investigation.

    Article II
    Outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies, is not subject to national appropriation by claim of sovereignty, by means of use or occupation, or by any other means.

    https://2009-2017.state.gov/t/isn/5181.htm

    Given that, I don't see how the US or any other country for that matter would just skate by mining the moon for their own purposes without causing an international uproar. Even without the treaty, I don't see it.
    You are wrong about police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Unless you are willing to do as China does and use federal money to buy up these resources, you have the problem of finding US investors who want to lock their capital into things like foreign mines and also agree not to sell them to the highest bidder, which could be China.
    Theoretically, but one source is not going to agree to sell only one customer. Why would anyone sell 10 billion when they could sell 20 billion? You just hope that Chile and Bolivia entrepreneurs don't figure out that they should be making the batteries. So you need to process their lithium better and make the best end product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Colonization is a big part of CRT. You'd do yourself service to find out.
    So what? Nothing exists outside of CRT? Where is your argument?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    So what? Nothing exists outside of CRT? Where is your argument?
    That you ought to know the source of your argument...or not, be informed or don't be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    That you ought to know the source of your argument...or not, be informed or don't be.
    Be as evasive as you want. You just don't have an argument.
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