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    The Illusion of Moral Progress

    Postmodernism cannot provide a moral standard of progress and thus we're faced with The Illusion of Moral Progress

    ...Faith in the objectivity of ethics slowly eroded in the modern era and gave way to postmodernism. The road was paved by the Enlightenment, beginning in the 17th century with ideas like the Hobbesian “social contract” in which human beings decide their own “codes of law,” namely what is morally and socially acceptable for human living....

    In the absence of a universal standard of law, the only way we can judge an ethical system is by our own ethical system, which is nonsensical.[4] If we believe that our ethical system gets better over time, then we concede that our current system is not ethically optimal. If we deny a universal rule of ethics, as moral relativism does [3], we are only able to judge the ethical system by our own ethical system, which we necessarily admit is imperfect if we expect it to progress in the future. Therefore, we cannot soundly judge whether a society is ethically progressing or not without a universal blueprint that is transcendent above human desire and judgment alone.

    ...In postmodern times, universalizable codes of ethics are condemned because of their lack of respect and appreciation for multiculturalism. For example, people supporting the ban on face veils in France for Muslim women are criticized as being culturally intolerant and disrespectful of the moral codes of others, and this critique is extended to lament the supposed universal ethics upon which the face veil ban is principled. But of course, if a code of ethics is wholly determined by human ideals and is claimed to be “universal,” those universal ethics will always be intolerant to some society, culture, or practice. While the progressive movement rightly criticizes the unrelenting and unchecked spread of the West’s wrongful claim of universal ethics, the real criticism must be directed towards the notion of moral relativism....
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    To me the most unfortunate shift has been from personal responsibility to a form of borrowed morality by means of Virtue Signaling. All the people who proclaim they care about something while the heavy lifting and consequences land on others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    To me the most unfortunate shift has been from personal responsibility to a form of borrowed morality by means of Virtue Signaling. All the people who proclaim they care about something while the heavy lifting and consequences land on others.
    Yea, virtue signalling, moralizing from an amoral position.
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    The final war should be fought to bring about a universal standard of law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Yea, virtue signalling, moralizing from an amoral position.
    On top of that they act like your moral superior.

    They can act like selfish $#@!s in the workplace to get ahead. They can help their kids cheat on college credits, they can demand special considerations for race and gender in all things. They can get rich without guilt.

    And they are better than you because they care about the WOKE political causes of the day like BLM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneOnly2 View Post
    The final war should be fought to bring about a universal standard of law.
    I don't think that's for man to decide least not by design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    On top of that they act like your moral superior.

    They can act like selfish $#@!s in the workplace to get ahead. They can help their kids cheat on college credits, they can demand special considerations for race and gender in all things. They can get rich without guilt.

    And they are better than you because they care about the WOKE political causes of the day like BLM.

    That's exactly it, like they're your superiors, which is odd when the left says they seek equality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
    To me the most unfortunate shift has been from personal responsibility to a form of borrowed morality by means of Virtue Signaling. All the people who proclaim they care about something while the heavy lifting and consequences land on others.

    An unfortunate shift, indeed.
    ""A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul" ~George Bernard Shaw

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