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    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminO View Post
    Yes, the truth that you made false assumptions and statements about me must hurt you a lot.
    All you have to do is stop and your pain will subside.
    It's not false, my comments were entirely accurate. Obviously I struck a nerve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    It's not false, my comments were entirely accurate. Obviously I struck a nerve.
    It was all false and you know it.
    You just provided an example of ad hom and I called you out.
    Even on your best day you couldn't "strike a nerve" with me.
    Got anything to add to the thread or are you going to keep bashing your head against the wall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    Kansas has a population of almost 3 million people. Thats a huge sample size. This is the data from approximately 105 counties in Kansas.
    Actually, this is not just a sample. This is data for the entire population. It doesn't get any better than that.

    Apologies about the lack of a link. I updated the original post with a link to the source.
    https://ipsr.ku.edu/covid19/images/M...te_forJoCo.pdf



    It's BULL$#@!! I moved from Johnson Country to Leavenworth County last year. I travel over to Johnson county on almost a daily basis. The mask mandate is NOT enforced, and many people are in and out of stores all day long WITHOUT masks. This research at the very least is flawed, at the very most FABRICATED.
    Last edited by Sybil Ludington; 10-29-2020 at 09:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FindersKeepers View Post
    Democrats will fall for anything--I live in Kansas, I know how badly our governor has lied and deceived.

    You need to actually read the link below. Seriously read it.




    https://sentinelksmo.org/ku-research...rpks5ff6im9bKE
    And what a POS Sharice Davids is! Always claiming she represents ALL Kansans, but goes around wearing a t-shirt that says "All my heroes kill colonizers", and marching with BLM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminO View Post
    It was all false and you know it.
    You just provided an example of ad hom and I called you out.
    Even on your best day you couldn't "strike a nerve" with me.
    Got anything to add to the thread or are you going to keep bashing your head against the wall.
    Repeating your lie won't make it true. It's obvious you and your ilk only regurgitate agenda driven commentary. You refuse to consider opposing viewpoints, even when they come from prestigious scientific organizations and universities. Is it a coincidence that you only parrot left wing propaganda that aligns with your partisan agenda? Of course it's not. It's as plain as the nose on your face. I know it, you know it, everyone knows it. You aren't fooling anyone, least of all yourself.
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    Assuming you are right, he misspoke.

    80% of the COVID victims wore masks.

    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminO View Post
    No, you are full of $#@! and don't want to hear the truth.
    TRUMP: “Just the other day they came out with a statement that 85% of the people that wear masks catch it so ... that’s what I heard and that’s what I saw.” — town-hall event in Miami.
    TRUMP, on his rallies: “What I do is outside is a big thing. And if you look at those, people, they really are wearing masks. I’ll tell you, I looked last night in Iowa — there were many, many people wearing masks. But then you see CDC comes out with a statement that 85% of the people wearing masks catch it.” — Fox Business interview.
    TRUMP, looking out over his crowd: “Look at all the masks. You know, they keep saying, ‘nobody wears a mask, wear the mask.’ Although then they come out with things today. Did you see CDC? That 85% of the people wearing a mask catch it, OK?” — remarks at rally during the day in Greenville, North Carolina.

    https://apnews.com/article/election-...67b0990d49ca2b

    More links...
    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...study-n1243562
    https://www.google.com/search?client...ot+COVID+trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLiquidGuy View Post
    Who says it's not working in ohio?

    Is there a mask mandate?
    Are people heeding it?
    Is there a control group in ohio to compare with?
    If you can answer yes to all of these, then I will take it seriously.
    Even the CDC isn't making such bogus claims anymore:

    https://thinkamericana.com/cdc-relea...into-question/

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina73 View Post
    https://www.kansas.com/news/coronavi...246398100.html

    Oddly from my count 12 of the 15 counties outside of the "Red Zone" for COVID do not have the mask mandate.
    I believe all the states with mask mandates are in the "Red Zone" for COVID

    How does that work out for you?

    I am not against masks. I am against mandates. I am for education.

    Masks can help. Masks can help prevent you from getting a cold or even the flu.

    They can also cause short and long term problems for people . Your exhaust air is not necessarily healthy for you.
    Weakening your own immune system by not using it is unhealthy for you.
    Do people really want to live their life waiting for one government shot after another to save them or do they want to build immunizes.

    Your AP news is also promoting your flattening as a "sharp decrease" in a normal dishonest move by the left wing media.

    https://apnews.com/article/health-ka...3c1cd23f1d234e
    Colds and flu are infections. Even the mask containers say "these do not prevent infections"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenjaminO View Post
    This 85% thing is being misrepresented...
    Fact check: Trump falsely claims that 85% of people who wear masks get coronavirus

    From CNN's Daniel Dale
    President Trump made a dramatic claim about Covid-19 during Thursday night’s town hall.
    “Just the other day, they came out with a statement that 85% of the people that wear masks catch it,” Trump said.
    It was a repeat of a similar claim he had made two times earlier in the day, citing the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as the source for that number.
    Facts First: Trump’s claim is false. A CDC study released in September, did not say that 85% of people who wear masks get infected with coronavirus. In fact, it did not even attempt to figure out what percentage of people who wear a mask get infected with the coronavirus.
    Rather, the study looked at the behavior of 154 symptomatic people who had tested positive for the coronavirus in July around the country and 160 people who reported symptoms but tested negative in July.
    The study found that, of those 154 people, 85% said they had worn a mask either “always” or “often” over the 14 days prior to the onset of their illness. That’s where the 85% figure comes from.
    Of the 160 people in the study who had tested negative, however, 88.7% said they had worn a mask either “always” or “often.” So there’s really no difference between people who wore masks and those who didn’t.
    And that’s not even the point here.
    Trump was suggesting that the CDC found that 85% of all people who wear masks get coronavirus. But the CDC was just looking at the behavior of these 314 symptomatic people who sought out testing at 11 particular sites around the country in July.
    Here’s how one of the co-authors, Christopher Lindsell, co-director of the Health Data Science Center at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, described the study’s data on masks:
    “The data suggest that among a group of patients who are already showing symptoms that prompted them to get testing for the virus, there was no statistical evidence of a difference in mask wearing behavior between those who tested positive and those who tested negative,” Lindsell said in an email. “This is very different from the question of whether wearing masks prevents you becoming infected with the virus, and it is also different to the question of how many or what percentage of people who wear masks contract the virus. The study was not designed to answer these questions.”

    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...6d2d91bae7cbff

    And FYI...the less microscopic particles in the air because someone is wearing a mask lessons the possibility of it getting into someone elses eyes.
    Trump was quoting the CDC, not just making up the facts and figures:
    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/cdc-85...earing-a-mask/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypso Jones View Post
    Left media is saying that you stupid anti-science heretics aren't reading it right. LOLOL The media is going to decide what you read and then they're gonna tell you what to learn from it.
    And using CNN as a source?!

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