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    Origin of the Germanic Tribes

    The Kurgan hypothesis!


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    The military history is iffy but it's an interesting video.
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    I've read a couple of good books on the Battle of Teutoburg Forest in 9 AD - the best was 'The Battle That Stopped Rome' by Peter Wells. The ambush and slaughter of three Roman legions by forces under the command of Arminius was a watershed event in the history of Western Europe and a fascinating story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Standing Wolf View Post
    I've read a couple of good books on the Battle of Teutoburg Forest in 9 AD - the best was 'The Battle That Stopped Rome' by Peter Wells. The ambush and slaughter of three Roman legions by forces under the command of Arminius was a watershed event in the history of Western Europe and a fascinating story.
    Modern historians think the battle was not really what stopped Roman expansion north, but rather the fact that the Rhine River was a natural border for Rome and nothing north of it would be easily defendable and made economically productive (due to travel restrictions).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Modern historians think the battle was not really what stopped Roman expansion north, but rather the fact that the Rhine River was a natural border for Rome and nothing north of it would be easily defendable and made economically productive (due to travel restrictions).
    It's a much more plausible explanation. It's also offers a better explanation of why Germanicus was recalled after avenging Rome's honor in 16 AD. Tiberius was concerned about Germanicus' increasing popularity with the legions on the Rhine frontier.
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    Forget where I read it, Davies's Europe or MacDonald's Individualism, but the origins of the Germanic Tribes was Indoeuropean migration from the east to the west, and then a push back to the east, which put them in contact with Rome. At least at the general level the video seems accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Forget where I read it, Davies's Europe or MacDonald's Individualism, but the origins of the Germanic Tribes was Indoeuropean migration from the east to the west, and then a push back to the east, which put them in contact with Rome. At least at the general level the video seems accurate.

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    That's certainly the origin of the Germanic language family as well as every other language in Europe with few exceptions (e.g. Basque and Finnish). The German peoples were in contact with Rome for centuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    That's certainly the origin of the Germanic language family as well as every other language in Europe with few exceptions (e.g. Basque and Finnish). The German peoples were in contact with Rome for centuries.
    Yes the basis of those theories are linguistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Yes the basis of those theories are linguistic.
    I was reading today that a lot of doubt has been cast on the Anatolian Hypothesis by genetic evidence. Believe it or not, Alain de Benoist wrote a book about the Indo-Europeans back in the late 1960s. I read an updated version from 1997. It's a fairly slim volume. Now I feel like rereading it. One of the theories that I found fascinating was that the Proto-Indo-European homeland was in the north. What I remember of the linguistic evidence is that the terms for various fauna and flora native to the Boreal region of Europe (e.g. beaver, amber) are derived from the same root in all Indo-European languages.
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