I didn't say that most atheists would consider your dismissal of the women cutting her little girl's throat meaningless; I wrote "most decent people". That would include the great majority of Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. Your characterization of an act like that as "meaningless" has nothing to do with being a Christian or a theist and everything to do with being so prideful at believing in The Right Thing that there is no longer any room in your thinking for what it means to be a decent human being.
Ultimately, which moral code has more of a basis in reality...more meaning? One designed to make some supernatural thing happy so it will let you exist forever, or one that only prompts one to play fair with and be good to others in the small time we have to do it in on this planet?
Your judgment of all moral codes (except the one that's been assigned to you by your church) as "meaningless" and of no objective value clearly makes it impossible for you to see and understand other points of view on the subject. Thank...whoever...that your attitude is not the prevalent one among Catholics, or among Christianity generally. This is one of those situations where you may feel that your faith (or your Faith), your church or your god itself is being criticized or denounced, but in fact that's not the case; it's just you.
“Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard
"Only a rank degenerate would drive 1,500 miles across Texas and not eat a chicken fried steak." - Larry McMurtry
You're not starting off well. I know you didn't say that. No one attributed those words to you. I said the vast majority of atheists would agree that such an act is inherently evil yet they really don't have anything more than human opinion to justify their disgust. As for being decent, ditto. It's just a subjective human standard. Don't blame me. It's not my worldview.
Any "moral order" that does not originate in men. I'm not sure how many more times and in how many different ways this can be conveyed. Your caricatures are not worth responding to.
I haven't made a judgment of " all moral codes". Is this deliberate? Why are you so defensive? Why do you keep attributing comments to me that I obviously didn't make? Why do you keep talking about me. If my religious faith is not under attack why can't you stop talking about it?
Good day, Standing Wolf, but before we part ways I think you would do well to emulate your friend Cletus. He is obviously much more confident in who he is and what he believes and he obviously has a much more open mind than you do. Do better next time.
Last edited by Mister D; 11-25-2020 at 04:50 PM.
Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.
~Alain de Benoist
I've given analogies earlier, the creation of energy in a closed system meaning nothing in an open system (1st Law of Thermodynamics). Adam Smith's explanation of empathy looking inward for empathy about Chinese in an earthquake (Theory of Moral Sentiments). Here's another, meant to be humorous, you'll get the allusion: If an atheist proclaims a moral code in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does he make a sound?
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.
~Alain de Benoist
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler
“Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard
"Only a rank degenerate would drive 1,500 miles across Texas and not eat a chicken fried steak." - Larry McMurtry
Last edited by Mister D; 11-25-2020 at 05:16 PM.
Whoever criticizes capitalism, while approving immigration, whose working class is its first victim, had better shut up. Whoever criticizes immigration, while remaining silent about capitalism, should do the same.
~Alain de Benoist
A public school's activities should reflect the culture of their community and children should not be forced to participate in anything that violates their religious beiefs. So unless this is a non-theist community or children are graded on Christian prayer during the project it should be retained.
Chris (11-26-2020)